russian hypersonic missiles

[001]

But US is not agressive

[wraper]

But US is not agressive

Really? How about Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria? BTW I don't get if you are really serious about Muslims? Those are orthodox Christians on your photo.

[coppercone2]

literary every one of those countries was waging war or had a history of waging war on the civilian population with military arms. some with weapons of mass destruction.

[Bud]

At least
Why russians so agressive? The goverment spend money for top weapons, isnt it?
Is for muslim purposes?

001 your ignorance is beyond imagination. Russians are orthodox Christians, not muslims. Guess you do not receive much education down there in Antarctica.

[wraper]

literary every one of those countries was waging war or had a history of waging war on the civilian population with military arms. some with weapons of mass destruction.

Did US find WMD in Iraq? That's was an official reason for invasion. In Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya US caused more human deaths than all of dictators combined. And now those countries are in poverty, experience power vacuum, and are ridden with terrorism. They were much better places with those dictators.
Talking about Syria, among Muslim nations it was among those with most of human rights. US supported rebels and did not admit those were linked with terrorist organizations. Only relatively recently they admitted IS in Syria. And now EU needs to deal with all migrants flowing from that region. Nicely done.

[Bud]

001 is on a mission on this forum to bash Russia.

[coppercone2]

yea saddam did not use chemical weapons against his own population. why would you trust him. troublemaker. he used scuds on his own people.

a government should not reach that state ever. those guys had a rap sheet fifty miles long.

[wraper]

yea saddam did not use chemical weapons against his own population. why would you trust him. troublemaker. he used scuds on his own people.

a government should not reach that state ever.

That was used against Kurds 2 decades before the US invasion. There was no WMD by the time of US invasion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_chemical_attack

The attack killed between 3,200 and 5,000 people and injured 7,000 to 10,000 more, most of them civilians.

Good reason to kill half a million people for a reason of "protecting human rights"  .

[001]

001 your ignorance is beyond imagination. Russians are orthodox Christians, not muslims. 

Really? Note  their beards and strange golden dresses

[wraper]

001 your ignorance is beyond imagination. Russians are orthodox Christians, not muslims. 

Really? Note  their beards and strange golden dresses

LOL https://www.google.com/search?biw=1707&bih=972&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=CzIuXIehDOGDrwTV1L3oDQ&q=orthodox+christian&oq=orthodox+christian&gs_l=img.3..35i39j0l9.4207.6585..6867...0.0..0.69.456.8......1....1..gws-wiz-img.......0i67.gTkwFtJj-sc

[coppercone2]

alright why was he not letting weapons inspectors do their thing as per the treaty? he violated a treaty. no one knew what was going on. its like someone violating their parole. do you just let that slide? whats the point of a treaty then? did they say his government needed to obey 50% of it? what do you do invade it, write up all this paperwork that is supposed to bring justice then just let it slide?

normally for that to happen in court there needs to be alot of good will and cooperation and public good stuff going on. this guy was just like a con that wont let parole officers into his house. and he did not do any community service or nothing. what are they supposed to do? he did a bunch of crazy bad shit, got off on a treaty and then started interfering with everything. you cant do that in a civilized world, other wise no one will ever decide to do a treaty to end a war. look what happened after WW1 treaties were being violated.

[2N3055]

001 your ignorance is beyond imagination. Russians are orthodox Christians, not muslims. 

Really? Note  their beards and strange golden dresses

LOL https://www.google.com/search?biw=1707&bih=972&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=CzIuXIehDOGDrwTV1L3oDQ&q=orthodox+christian&oq=orthodox+christian&gs_l=img.3..35i39j0l9.4207.6585..6867...0.0..0.69.456.8......1....1..gws-wiz-img.......0i67.gTkwFtJj-sc

Well he can't be that thick. He's trolling.

[wraper]

alright why was he not letting weapons inspectors do their thing as per the treaty? he violated a treaty. no one knew what was going on. its like someone violating their parole. do you just let that slide? whats the point of a treaty then? did they say his government needed to obey 50% of it? what do you do invade it, write up all this paperwork that is supposed to bring justice then just let it slide?

There were inspectors and they did not find anything. US still proclaimed Iraq was hiding their WMD and started the war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

In late 2002 Saddam Hussein, in a letter to Hans Blix, invited UN weapons inspectors back into the country. Subsequently, the Security Council issued resolution 1441 authorizing new inspections in Iraq. The carefully worded UN resolution put the burden on Iraq, not UN inspectors, to prove that they no longer had weapons of mass destruction. The United States claimed that Iraq's latest weapons declaration left materials and munitions unaccounted for; the Iraqis claimed that all such material had been destroyed, something which had been stated years earlier by Iraq's highest ranking defector, Hussein Kamel al-Majid. According to reports from the previous UN inspection agency, UNSCOM, Iraq produced 600 metric tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, VX and sarin, and nearly 25,000 rockets and 15,000 artillery shells, with chemical agents, that are still unaccounted for.
In January 2003, United Nations weapons inspectors reported that they had found no indication that Iraq possessed nuclear weapons or an active program.

[wraper]

Anyway, we should stop talking about politics. This thread is already a good candidate to be shut down by moderators.

[coppercone2]

bad choice of words on his part


In 2001, Saddam stated: "we are not at all seeking to build up weapons or look for the most harmful weapons . . . however, we will never hesitate to possess the weapons to defend Iraq and the Arab nation".

thats not even denying it or saying we don't have any. its some passive aggressive threat shit.

you don't say that if you gassed a town before.

this level of cooperation is unacceptable if you committed a genocide
On March 7, in an address to the Security Council, Hans Blix stated: "Against this background, the question is now asked whether Iraq has cooperated "immediately, unconditionally and actively" with UNMOVIC, as is required under paragraph 9 of resolution 1441 (2002)... while the numerous initiatives, which are now taken by the Iraqi side with a view to resolving some long-standing open disarmament issues, can be seen as "active", or even "proactive", these initiatives 3–4 months into the new resolution cannot be said to constitute "immediate" cooperation. Nor do they necessarily cover all areas of relevance." Some U.S. officials understood this contradictory statement as a declaration of noncompliance.

[2N3055]

What's not to believe? Even CIA themselves wrote report in which they officially admitted WMD report in Iraq was falsified. People resigned in CIA over that.
Not to mention when people from USA start explaining what happened in Yugoslavia. What was sold to american public is full fiction.

All that has no bearing to what is a topic here. Enough of propaganda.

Which is : Is Russian Federation capable of producing highly sophisticated hypersonic weapons? Yes they are, quite scary ones. Pretty much state of the art.

[001]

Which is : Is Russian Federation capable of producing highly sophisticated hypersonic weapons? Yes they are, quite scary ones. Pretty much state of the art.

Why? How they do it without MIT graduate?

[In Vacuo Veritas]

Well he can't be that thick. He's trolling.

Oh no no, he is that stupid. Trust your instincts.

Here's his precious imaginary christ with a beard kissing men in robes, while wearing a golden halo (probably a schizophrenic hallucination of the mentally ill people who invented religion)

https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-the-kiss-of-judas-by-giotto-di-bondone-c-1305-fresco-scrovegni-chapel-54402659.html

[SiliconWizard]

One of the WTF'est threads we have read in a while.
 

[Sparky49]

For those who are interested, Russia/USSR has a long history of developing quite sophisticated UAVs since the 1950s, using powerplants from turbojets to ramjets. They were designed for a variety of roles - many were reconnaissance drones with quite interesting mission profiles, such as that for the Tu143, below. It's big brother, the Tu139 was a fully reusable UAV, with a very impressive capability.





Indeed, the Russians were developing UCAVs in the early 70s, the Korshoon being a noteable design. This was capable of carrying a 1,100lb warload, though the system never flew as the CofM Presidium's Commission on Defence Matters ordered Sukhoi to turn the project over to Tupolev. Development ground to a snails pace after the end of the Cold War, however - for a while the Russian Army only had the Yakovlev Pchela-1T in service, with the distinction of having seen action in the Chechen Wars.

The Russian's have long taken a different approach to UAV/UCAV design and mission profiling - they were really leading the forefront of such design ab initio, until the end of Cold War. The developments made since the mid 00's (primarily pushed by Russian private companies funnily enough) have made real progress and the UAV/UCAVs we see are entirely within their technological means.

[apis]

For those who are interested, Russia/USSR has a long history of developing quite sophisticated UAVs since the 1950s, using powerplants from turbojets to ramjets. They were designed for a variety of roles - many were reconnaissance drones with quite interesting mission profiles, such as that for the Tu143, below. It's big brother, the Tu139 was a fully reusable UAV, with a very impressive capability.

Swedish ufologists are very interested in a wave of UFO-sightings in the 1940s that they call ghost rockets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_rockets

[Sparky49]

Yeah, I suspect that those were related to Soviet Alsos. A really interesting period of history with great minds on all sides.

[Marco]

Not to say Russia isn't aggressive, the Novichok affair was obviously quite aggressive, but this weapon isn't ... it's just part of the MAD race.

[VK5RC]

One of the WTF'est threads we have read in a while.
 

Reminds me of the quote 'never wrestle with a pig, you end up covered in mud and the pig enjoys itself'. HiHi

[apis]

Yeah, I suspect that those were related to Soviet Alsos. A really interesting period of history with great minds on all sides.

It was. Some people are currently investigating if they can retrieve one that sunk in a lake according to eyewitnesses. Seems like a long shot, but would be very interesting to see the technology used up close. What I don't understand is how they appear to have navigated autonomously given the technology at the time.