Oh wait, I do...The problem isn't that we aren't letting it change it...The problem is they are getting paid to create problems where there are none since all of them have already been solved. PLEASE PEOPLE...STOP DONATING TO THESE PARASITES.
And those who aren't getting paid are delusional that they are on the right side, and when they win, they'll be the leaders of the world or something. Those people need a psychiatrist ( and apparently saying someone need a psychiatrist, is the only politically way left to call someone mental).
It also might have something to do with people maturing at an older age these days-
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/why-todays-teens-are-growing-up-more-slowly-than-they-used-to/ Maybe we should start stretching the schooling years to last 25% longer and make the voting age older?
The way American diversity is, I'm surprised why it hasn't fallen yet. Being an Indian, I've seen a lot of infighting within the country on the basis of caste and what not and America isn't even made of people of a single country. What's worse is many American green card holders don't wanna be known as Americans, but Indians, Africans, Middle easterner etc while they gladly reap the benefits of American law
Meanwhile, most of the electronics are made in countries with real slavery specially China, they might try to hide it but they can't. Even in India, my neighbors own servants who serve them in exchange for using their land/building as a shelter (no salary). If it isn't slavery then what is it?
May the historic records remain unaltered so we remember why slavery was bad. Forgetting it would only help bringing it back under different name.
Our man AvE already calls male-female connectors as pokey bit and pokey bit receptacle
If you don't like 'master' and 'slave', you could adopt the original (1981-ish) SASI/SCSI standard terminology of 'initiator' and 'target', and still be using consistent technical language.
I like that buy why change gigabites worth of text in several datasheet just for people who can't just shutup and admire what EE make for them
O my god (one out of 6000 different, do your own pick), personally, my compiler and soldering iron are my gods.....
At first I thought you were making a joke ![Banging Head |O](https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Smileys/default/bangheadonwall.gif.pagespeed.ce.8iLbFYV4Bc.gif)
Why oh why bother with idiotic stuff like this, its been master/slave for obvious reasons, if someone gets this wrong, its their own mind that is wrong in the first place ("for the pure, everything is pure").
STOP BEING OFFENDED AT ANY POSSIBLE CHANCE
And no, "primary" and "secondary" has nothing similar to "Master" and "Slave", the "Master" is, hmmm, "The Master" and the slave obeys.
What about "Female" and "Male" adapters, maybe the "Female adapter" don't think of itself as "female" but one of the other 68 different types that exists.....
EDIT: Here is some more to be offended about:
0xDEADBABE
0xDEADFEED
0xBABEFEED
0xC0DEFEED
0xC0DEBABE
Go ahead
Geez, enough of this craziness
![Banging Head |O](https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Smileys/default/bangheadonwall.gif.pagespeed.ce.8iLbFYV4Bc.gif)
We at EEVBLOG apparently aren't, but it's the companies making chips for us who'll bend the knee fearing for their own properties being burnt down by these far leftists.
On connectors we're going to be forced to use GR-874's until a hermaphrodite gets offended ![Laughing :-DD](https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Smileys/default/smiley_laughing.gif.pagespeed.ce._hfWAz_QHO.gif)
Oh phew i thought id have to use those APC-7 connectors. My wallet can't afford those.
But yeah my coworker kept referring to them as "hermaphrodite connectors" because he forgot the name for it and having only one gender is the main feature.
I'll still like them over USB C cause they are mostly orientationally independent
![Laughing :-DD](https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Smileys/default/smiley_laughing.gif.pagespeed.ce._hfWAz_QHO.gif)
And what am I supposed to do with my male and female connectors?
I'm going to have to start using gender neutral or trans DB9 connectors?
Normally I would suggest that somebody says these things as a great prank joke.
But unfortunately there are people out there who take the idea seriously.
Naa, even these professionally offended guys will admit it that they aren't really serious about it.
I vote for
- "politician" and "elector"
I'd love that
This is just getting ridiculous. Really.
Even for people actively working against racism IMHO. They are just wasting their time (and everyone else's) while there are certainly valid causes to defend.
If anything, this is just getting non-activists irritated, which just works against their cause. I sometimes wonder if those people are not just sabotaging the cause actually while just trying to get some exposure.
As an extra thought specifically about this "word ban" approach: I suggest those people to read (or re-read) "1984". The idea of banning words from the language just for the sake of avoiding related thoughts to even form in peoples' heads is exactly what was described as "Newspeak".
"working for racism"? is there any racism left?
So I have a question:
For those of us who've been around for a while, when did it happen that people started with the attitude "the entire world has to worry about protecting MY feelings and NEVER do or say anything that might even slightly offend me"?
I mean, back in the old days it was "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me". Y'know, the kind of attitude that intelligent, grown up adults would try to take, and teach young kids about. Learn to deal with life and put it in perspective. But now it's all about "likes" and emotion and ego, not rationality. And apparently the worst thing you can do is to offend someone. WTF?
Somehow we're supposed to know what might offend any of the 7.6 billion people on the planet. It's insane. Where have the adults gone? We're supposed to know (or care) what words offend any random person? WTF?
It must have been in the 80's or something. But it seems like now everyone has bought into the insanity.
We're doomed.
EDIT: BTW, DrG, the "pimp/bitch" was hilarious. ![Laughing :-DD](https://www.eevblog.com/forum/Smileys/default/smiley_laughing.gif.pagespeed.ce._hfWAz_QHO.gif)
Again, cause we're paying them to be offended
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000jx41
All these protests about history. Well for the idiots information the problem only ever got worse but they don't care about that they just want to run around pulling statues down and erasing history because that will make today's problems go away.
Some say, they want their "evil" history to be forgotten. Others say, they want history to be repeated but with the race roles reversed. And say they are just goofing around like kids would if they were in grown up's body. Meanwhile I wonder what drugs, these people are on?
And what am I supposed to do with my male and female connectors?
I'm going to have to start using gender neutral or trans DB9 connectors?
Normally I would suggest that somebody says these things as a great prank joke.
But unfortunately there are people out there who take the idea seriously.
Call them Partner A and Partner B.
Aah, Usb, you were so great, until you weren't. Now everything is USB C but if you accidentally plug that usb c device into that usb c port, they will blow up.
our local council once decided to encourage more Indians to work for them to better represent the population of the town. I thought WTF? they can apply for office jobs at the council the same as anyone else. Positive discrimination is still discrimination. All you need to do in treat people equally. If positive discrimination carry's on for too long it becomes racism the other way around, so rather than trying to fix the so called problem in an instant you implement the solution, equal treatment.
Should sue em, unless that council in Indian :p then it's nothing but swadeshi efforts.
Genuinely interested in what terms we should use in systems to replace MASTER/SLAVE?
What terminology are the big boys (Keysight/Tek etc..) using? What accurately conveys the relationship between equipment or parts of a system?
What about appropriating BDSM terminology, surely that won’t offend anyone – DOM/SUB? Or perhaps just change to MASTER/SERVANT.
Could black and white lists be changed to RED and GREEN, or do they have other meanings in computing?
Can we call black people dark browns instead?
Adafruit are replacing Master/Slave and other terms in all their documentation:
https://www.adafruit.com/blacklivesmatter
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Not surprised at all :p
Adafruit are replacing Master/Slave and other terms in all their documentation:
Got to say that in their case the alternative 'microcontroller out, sensor in' does make sense and is more descriptive. Of course, it's bollocks for the protocol proper, but since Adafruit generally make micro-controlled stuff this would no doubt save an entry in their FAQ.
What if you're using it to let 2 different micros talk and share info?
i have come across SPI stuff that uses DI and DO and it confused the hell out of me. I don't think it was written like that because of sensitivities but poor English and understanding of SPI along with the fact that the screen never returns data to the master.
me too. usually I remark em
I'm not into that "maker" subculture so I always judged Adafruit by the first three letters of their name alone and didn't even care to know anything more.
I kinda hate the name. "Lady Ada" is not even nearly as great as Ada Lovelace. If she can rename herself like that, call me Enstine
I'm still unsure of how much of a push there is from actual people of colour for this change, and therefore how much a of a need for it there is - but since it's so easy to do, and has some precedent in the community now
It's not "easy to do". There are generations of course material, datasheets, app notes, and tutorials etc, not to mention the countless teachers and engineers who don't give a rats arse about modern identity politics. Adafruit and a few others wouldn't even represent a fraction of a percent of the material and sentiment out there.
And not teaching the accepted industry standard terms is disadvantageous to any students.
Good luck trying to find a person who was actually a colored slave who also works with electronics.
Shouldn't we think of something better / more effective to help those people, than changing some words?
People like a nice easy thing so they can "do something" without actually having to do very much. There are many things that can be done to actually help people and prevent some of the situations people are upset about but the actions that are effective are not easy or fast. I'm reminded of the marches for breast cancer and such, it has never made sense to me, marching around does nothing to fight cancer, everyone is already aware so there's no need to raise awareness, and if you want to raise money why not do something useful/productive and donate the proceeds to an organization that actually researches cancer treatment? It's much simpler to just go join a march though and feel like you're making a difference.
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I wonder how much money raised by them actually goes towards paying the scientists. And hasn't breast cancer problem, already over? It's on you to get yourself x-rayed/screened regularly (same as any other cancer).
After blocking comments on the article, Hackaday also deleted almost all of the 200+ comments on the facebook thread: https://www.facebook.com/hackaday.io/posts/3518305734849345
It's interesting that of the 200+ comments that were there, only 16 are left. The community has spoken, but the hackaday fascists want to impose their way denying free speech. They have no respect for people, but want people to respect their ideology.
Publishing on hackaday almost feels like a participation price when it's filled with posters like these-https://hackaday.io/frankm23
No quality screening at all.