Australia, explain yourself.

[EEVblog]

This seems to be a school decision and there was probably some reason to bring it in and I am sure the parents have had some consultation on it, and it can just as easily be changed if it is that bad.

I think it's a case of a couple of squeaky wheels who have read up on SJW safe space terminology getting their way.

Parents can move their kids to a different school if it is such and issue.

I would.

If it is true then at least the school has the freedom to make a small decision like this.

And they will rightfully get ridiculed for it.

From my experience I think the kids of today are a lot further ahead, socially and educationally than when I was at school.

Not with bullshit like this. We are breeding a generation of kids who can't handle anything.

[EEVblog]

Political correctness is turning out to be its own worst enemy.

Yep, the entire modern PC movement will eventually implode.

[EEVblog]

No one outside Australia will get that 

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Back in my day we played British Bulldog everyday up until they banned it, a decent character building game that also sorted out the weeds in the paddock, it did me no harm and I had a thing for nurses anyhow.     

[HackedFridgeMagnet]

Ok here is the latest.

News  » Misrepresentation of "clapping ban" story in media
Last updated 11:25 AM on 21 July 2016

A "clapping ban" on students has not been introduced at Elanora Heights Public School.

To minimise discomfort to a teacher with a hearing disability that causes acute sensitivity to loud noise, the school has asked students to refrain from clapping and cheering at assemblies. These are held once every few weeks.

At other school occasions involving all students in the school, such as sporting events, artistic performances, smaller gatherings of students and staff, there are no restrictions on students clapping or cheering.

The school's Parents and Citizens group was consulted and support this decision.

http://www.elanorahts-p.schools.nsw.edu.au/news/misrepresentation-of-quot-clapping-ban-quot-story-in-media

Here is a link to the original newsletter, which seems to have been pulled as it gives a 404. Can anyone find the original?
http://www.elanorahts-p.schools.nsw.edu.au/cmsresources/elanora-heights-public-school/misc/2016/7/ehpsconnect_t3w1_1468910975501.pdf

I think there is a lot of overreaction to this and some of that is from this forum.
Why use a primary source when you can get your info from something as reputable 'The Australian'. 

[StuUK]

Ok here is the latest.

News  » Misrepresentation of "clapping ban" story in media
Last updated 11:25 AM on 21 July 2016

A "clapping ban" on students has not been introduced at Elanora Heights Public School.

To minimise discomfort to a teacher with a hearing disability that causes acute sensitivity to loud noise, the school has asked students to refrain from clapping and cheering at assemblies. These are held once every few weeks.

At other school occasions involving all students in the school, such as sporting events, artistic performances, smaller gatherings of students and staff, there are no restrictions on students clapping or cheering.

The school's Parents and Citizens group was consulted and support this decision.

http://www.elanorahts-p.schools.nsw.edu.au/news/misrepresentation-of-quot-clapping-ban-quot-story-in-media

Here is a link to the original newsletter, which seems to have been pulled as it gives a 404. Can anyone find the original?
http://www.elanorahts-p.schools.nsw.edu.au/cmsresources/elanora-heights-public-school/misc/2016/7/ehpsconnect_t3w1_1468910975501.pdf

I think there is a lot of overreaction to this and some of that is from this forum.
Why use a primary source when you can get your info from something as reputable 'The Australian'. 

Well in the era of PC running amok it is easy to believe something like this.

Sledgehammer to crack a nut! why does the teacher concerned just elect to use appropriate hearing protection, there are plenty of discreet devices! What happens when said teacher leaves work... FFS the world is nuts!!

[EEVblog]

A "clapping ban" on students has not been introduced at Elanora Heights Public School.
To minimise discomfort to a teacher with a hearing disability that causes acute sensitivity to loud noise, the school has asked students to refrain from clapping and cheering at assemblies. These are held once every few weeks.

Same thing different smell.
An entire school of hundreds of students has to stop doing something so basic and fundamental so that one teacher is not inconvenienced by it. Yeah, that makes sense.
How about the teacher go inside during assembly if it's an issue? Ear plugs perhaps? Plenty of options.
Surely this teacher would be used to this sort of thing and be able to take measured to avoid it?

The school's Parents and Citizens group was consulted and support this decision.

What a bunch of knobs.

[JPortici]

Well, it is a good gesture, but one of my teachers (the one with simillar hearing problems) would have said thank you but there's no need, i'll just wear earplugs with a smile

[ajb]

The school's Parents and Citizens group was consulted and support this decision.

What a bunch of knobs.

Yeah, what a bunch of wankers for electing to modify their behavior so as to avoid aggravating a colleagues disability. 

Seriously, if you think the decision was silly, fine, but mocking a group of people for being considerate of someone with a disability makes you look like an asshole.



When I first saw this I thought maybe they had a number of students on the autism spectrum.  Loud noises can be extremely stressful to people with autism and other conditions, so it becomes a choice between asking students to refrain from making loud noise, or further ostracizing students with special needs from the general population.  It's generally better for everyone to avoid ostracizing anyone, so I think it would be a great step to make assemblies more hospitable to the entire student body.  It's actually becoming more and more common for theaters (movie and live) to schedule special "sensory friendly" performances where the sound level is turned down, house lights are kept low but not off, special effects are toned down, etc, to better accommodate people with sensory sensitivity issues, in much the same way that they schedule sign language interpreted performances for hearing impaired.  I'm rather proud to have worked with one of the companies that pioneered such inclusive performances; and now some broadway and big touring stage shows are following suit.

[HackedFridgeMagnet]

A "clapping ban" on students has not been introduced at Elanora Heights Public School.
To minimise discomfort to a teacher with a hearing disability that causes acute sensitivity to loud noise, the school has asked students to refrain from clapping and cheering at assemblies. These are held once every few weeks.

Wasn't my statement. I was quoting from school, hence quote tags.

The school's Parents and Citizens group was consulted and support this decision.

What a bunch of knobs.

Bad hair day?
The only people who seem unhappy about what they are doing are people not involved.
What is so hard about not clapping at assembly? Is it Ok to clap on Anzac Day, or in a quiet carriage on a suburban train?
Maybe there's just a lot of knobs in Australia. 

[GEuser]

No assholes in Australia , only Arseholes , and opinions are not always associated with them either .

But it makes one wonder though if the hearing sensitivity was a later thing for that teacher , yaknow kids= noise =school=multiplied by heaps , if it already had a sensitivity what a career choice , as previously mentioned though why not wear earmuffs and stop looking like a neurotic poor me do what i want because i have a problem so stfu theme .

Reminds me of a current affair story on truckies , a female (oh not again now I'm really anti female , sorry sue) car driver explaining in the car driving that she was really really scared of big trucks/semi's/b doubles and in that I'm special very scared tone and does'nt want to die actually said that "she" thought it would be good if trucks were not on the road and implied a banning "because she was scared" so everyone has to cop what it wanted .

Imo of course .

[DTJ]

No assholes in Australia , only Arseholes ...................

Assholes / arseholes are not things to be picky over but the pronunciation is important too;
Aussies - arrrrr - soles
Others  - assss - holes

[GEuser]

I believe that, technically, only Elizabeth II can speak on behalf of Australia. And I don't really understand how Australians can be expected to explain decisions made by other people they have no relation to except living on the same continent?

warning, irony: Or maybe it is supposed to be something special in the Australian culture and therefore something all (and only) Australians understand and are doomed to repeat in eternity since culture apparently never change!?  /irony

Ha Ha , the real irony is here is not Sweden , no offense meant , as i do not understand how you imply that assuming (or is that assimilating) other peoples decisions its big time wrong .

[GEuser]

No assholes in Australia , only Arseholes ...................

Assholes / arseholes are not things to be picky over but the pronunciation is important too;
Aussies - arrrrr - soles
Others  - assss - holes

atttt - goles , i sure don't pick over them or at them Ha Ha Ha , anyway since daves in here i better tone it down , i generally presume generally he's looking about somewhere else in the forum and I'm safe .

[bitslice]

Sounds like the school has ASD students who are particularly noise sensitive and they are doing a small thing to help them. 

I don't want to be a dick here because I have Autistic family and work with the same, but this does vary a lot, some ASD kids wander around clapping all day, some only react to entirely unexpected noise.

Had the school stated this was the reason, then maybe OK, but really they just wanted to accommodate a single teacher.

SJW safe space terminology

Exactly, this is why decisions like this are dangerous,
If we accommodate an individual by changing the behaviour of the majority, we are distorting how things happen in real life and thus the development of any coping mechanisms.

This is then one step away from changing the behaviour of the majority because someone is "offended".
Behind issues like these is a cynical political theory that actively seeks to create victims out of these individuals - which then requires the State to protect them via legislation - this then becomes an over reach of State authority and a co-dependence on that State.
Nobody gains political power by staying out of your life, they do it by becoming a symbiotic part of it

It might superficially look to be progressive, but really idiocy like this is only empowering a mass of useful idiots and creating Generation Snowflake.

[EEVblog]

Yeah, what a bunch of wankers for electing to modify their behavior so as to avoid aggravating a colleagues disability. 
Seriously, if you think the decision was silly, fine, but mocking a group of people for being considerate of someone with a disability makes you look like an asshole.

Being considerate is one thing, but when doing so involves impacting hundreds of others, especially when there are surely much simpler alternatives that don't involve impacting hundreds of others, it's clearly a ridiculous choice.

I'm putting myself in the shoes of the affected teacher. Personally I wouldn't want nor expect hundreds of others to modify their behavior just to suit me, I'd deal with it myself. But that's just arsehole me talking 

[EEVblog]

What is so hard about not clapping at assembly?
Is it Ok to clap on Anzac Day, or in a quiet carriage on a suburban train?

Ridiculous analogy.
People do clap at assembly, it's one of the things you do at assemblies, they don't clap at those other events because it's not appropriate
Now hundreds of people have to stop what was an ordinary, regular, and expected event just because one person can't deal with their issue some other way.

It's like I stop saying something or stop doing a regular thing in a video because one viewer has a problem with it, so everyone else has to miss out.

[MT]

In Sweden the socialist government have invented a new term "hen" as to make people gender less, a replacement for saying he or she.
The government has also changed the constitution so all men have to sign a declaration that they either are fully feministic or adore feminist views.

Im not jokeing, you tough AU was bad! Ha!

Norway have recently started t implement hen.

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Australia isnt the only country that tries silly things. I wonder if anyone watches china uncensored. The UK and even EU also tend to try and implement silly rules like UK's plan to block all porn, Boris claiming the NHS would get £350M if the UK quit the EU.

[EEVblog]

In Sweden the socialist government have invented a new term "hen" as to make people gender less, a replacement for saying he or she.
The government has also changed the constitution so all men have to sign a declaration that they either are fully feministic or adore feminist views.

This can't be true, surely?

[MT]

Yes indeed! here is the new sign for it!

[EEVblog]

Yes indeed! here is the new sign for it!

I meant the constitution thing.

[StuUK]

Yes indeed! here is the new sign for it!

I meant the constitution thing.

How can you force people to sign such bullshit.... so I guess freedom of speech is out then.....

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Freedom of speech has been done away with almost every country around the globe.

[Delta]

Pah, Glasgow has been using "hen" for decades!

It's not a gender neutral term though...