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EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« on: November 09, 2018, 09:11:03 am »
World Exclusive!
A teardown and quick look at the new low cost (ish) Rigol MSO5000 mixed signal oscilloscope, to be release on the 13th Nov.

How does it compare to the 7000 series scope just released 5 months ago?



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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2018, 09:12:43 am »
Stop teasing us ...
 
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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2018, 09:12:55 am »
And so it begins...

 
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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2018, 09:38:24 am »
I'm waiting for a black and fanless DS1054Z  :-DD
 

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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2018, 09:58:39 am »
I'm waiting for a black and fanless DS1054Z  :-DD

Not this time.
 
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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2018, 10:02:57 am »
Why such cruelty to us poor scope users. :( :( :( :(
 

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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2018, 10:03:20 am »
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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2018, 10:08:14 am »
woohoo! individual channel controls!
 

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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2018, 10:12:29 am »
And they want to anounce another scope at the electronica "with bandwidths from 600 MHz to 2 GHz".

https://www.elektronikpraxis.vogel.de/vom-oszilloskop-bis-zum-funktionsgenerator-das-bietet-rigol-auf-der-electronica-a-773341/
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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2018, 10:46:06 am »
I'm waiting for a black and fanless DS1054Z  :-DD

What is it with TE vendors (well, Rigol & Keysight at least) doing everything in black now?

There's nothing wrong with black (typing this on a black Lenovo ThinkPad), but IMO most test gear seems to work better in white, or at least light colours.
 

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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2018, 10:48:10 am »
White stuff gets really dirty really quickly. Black stuff you can't see it as bad.

Black ThinkPad here too which is really mucky but you can't see it :)
 

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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2018, 10:54:59 am »


Purely SW upgradable from 70Mhz 2ch DSO, to 350Mhz 4ch MSO.

I think we've got a new licence hacking target.
 

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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2018, 11:08:16 am »
I'm waiting for a black and fanless DS1054Z  :-DD

What is it with TE vendors (well, Rigol & Keysight at least) doing everything in black now?

There's nothing wrong with black (typing this on a black Lenovo ThinkPad), but IMO most test gear seems to work better in white, or at least light colours.

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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2018, 11:20:15 am »
Launch date for the new series is November the 13th. The 2GHz scope won't be at Electronica or if so only for magazine.
The new series can be shipped within this year.
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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2018, 11:42:59 am »
Looking forward to this - is it a tear down and review?
 

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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2018, 12:34:17 pm »
Ah so this is the world exclusive Dave mentioned a few days ago in one of his lab shift videos.

Looks like they went for the cheaper MSO connector than in the 7000 series.........budget model ?
Less memory too ?
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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2018, 12:55:18 pm »
Ah so this is the world exclusive Dave mentioned a few days ago in one of his lab shift videos.

Looks like they went for the cheaper MSO connector than in the 7000 series.........budget model ?
Less memory too ?
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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2018, 02:46:58 pm »
Looking good so far. I hope that the video wasn't sped up >:D
datasheet?
Decoders set?
Math and statistic capability?
Will it be able to display measurement trend? (trace from measurement)
 

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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2018, 02:56:38 pm »
Looking good so far. I hope that the video wasn't sped up >:D
datasheet?
Decoders set?
Math and statistic capability?
Will it be able to display measurement trend? (trace from measurement)
very curious :) would be nice to wait till the 13th ... isn't it  :popcorn:
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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2018, 05:53:27 pm »
7000 and 5000 and none deep reviews..
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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2018, 08:56:18 pm »
Surprising it comes so soon after the 7000. I think last time the DS4000 -> DS2000 series was a year or two no?

Also given that the cheapest DS7000 100MHz is $2700 USD, I'm thinking this will be a high price as well.
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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2018, 09:07:18 pm »
Noticed an HDMI port on the back just under the 1:00 mark. Still likely to be way out of the hobby ballpark.
 

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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #22 on: November 09, 2018, 09:07:58 pm »
High sample rate but middle range for bandwidth I'm really not sure what they're going for. 7k is 500MHz, this is 350MHz, next is 200MHz 3k to replace 1054?
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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #23 on: November 09, 2018, 09:23:37 pm »
I do not like this small font for automatic measurements. This was also on previously released Rigol scopes.
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Re: EEVblog #1146 - New Low Cost Rigol MSO5000 Oscilloscope
« Reply #24 on: November 09, 2018, 09:42:13 pm »
Well at least 'pulses' is spelled right this time... -ducks and runs-  >:D
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