AMD Announces Zen 2/Ryzen 3000 at Computex

[olkipukki]

I don’t know guys where are you gather AMD “secret” and “unlocked” features from… 

Are you working in AMD (or your friends), do you have access to AMD low-level specs or engineering samples or perhaps watched official AMD keynote where their mentioned “unlocked” features, in our example, ECC?
Or maybe you just read some forums or concluded these from mobo’ manufacturer Ryzen supported “unofficially” features?

I would like share a good news with you, 
AMD Ryzen Threadripper officially “can support” ECC according watered-down paragraph in https://www.amd.com/en/products/ryzen-threadripper (picture attached too) product page.

Unfortunatelly, Threadripper specs (as example, https://www.amd.com/en/products/cpu/amd-ryzen-threadripper-2990wx) and their marketing think that ‘CMOS: 12nm’ is more important then say explicitly ECC and maximum memory support…

[Ampera]

So if they do say that it does it, where's the problem? It's up to them to figure out what features they think are more important, and for a good number of enthusiasts, gamers, and content creators that might want Threadripper power, ECC might seem like a costly extra for very little obvious gain. Regardless, it does it then, if that were a problem, then it's just been rendered not one.

[olkipukki]

ECC works fine on Ryzen, official support from AMD is meaningless. There are many "workstation" motherboards for Ryzen that specifically advertise ECC memory support, and many ECC modules are on the QVL.

I would much appreciated if you could please share a link to one workstation-class (not gaming or enthusiast) motherboard.

[olkipukki]

As for RDIMM vs UDIMM, I wouldn't be complaining about needing UDIMM ECC, you wanted a workstation, that /is/ workstation memory

UDIMM is a dead-end: limited capacity, availability and performance. Usually these apply on entry-level server/workstations.

[TheAmmoniacal]

ECC works fine on Ryzen, official support from AMD is meaningless. There are many "workstation" motherboards for Ryzen that specifically advertise ECC memory support, and many ECC modules are on the QVL.

I would much appreciated if you could please share a link to one workstation-class (not gaming or enthusiast) motherboard.

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Pro-WS-X570-ACE/

[olkipukki]

ECC works fine on Ryzen, official support from AMD is meaningless. There are many "workstation" motherboards for Ryzen that specifically advertise ECC memory support, and many ECC modules are on the QVL.

I would much appreciated if you could please share a link to one workstation-class (not gaming or enthusiast) motherboard.

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Pro-WS-X570-ACE/

Great, finally someone made it.

[wraper]

As for RDIMM vs UDIMM, I wouldn't be complaining about needing UDIMM ECC, you wanted a workstation, that /is/ workstation memory

UDIMM is a dead-end: limited capacity, availability and performance. Usually these apply on entry-level server/workstations.

There is nothing wrong with UDIMM unless you need hundreds GB of RAM with current memory technology. And it's not a dead end, once memory chip capacity rises, module capacity will rise as well. Think if your comment was said 10-20 years ago. If it was true, you could't even put something like 32 GB, not to say 128 GB of UDIMM into computer. The only advantage of RDIMM is that you can put more modules on single channel.

and performance.

This is simply not true. You certainly can run UDIMM faster than RDIMM.

[olkipukki]

"DDR4 for dummies" 
https://h20195.www2.hpe.com/V2/getpdf.aspx/4AA6-6217ENW.pdf

Updated:
No offense, just a good short book called 'DDR4 for dummies' regarding DDR4 (that sponsored by HP Enterprises)

[Ampera]

"DDR4 for dummies" 
https://h20195.www2.hpe.com/V2/getpdf.aspx/4AA6-6217ENW.pdf

>makes claim
<actually that's not really true, here's a concise description as to why not
>lol you're stupid, go read this book and come back when you're less stupid, dummy.

[olkipukki]

>makes claim
<actually that's not really true, here's a concise description as to why not
>lol you're stupid, go read this book and come back when you're less stupid, dummy.

 

[olkipukki]

"DDR4 for dummies" 
https://h20195.www2.hpe.com/V2/getpdf.aspx/4AA6-6217ENW.pdf

Updated:
No offense, just a good short book called 'DDR4 for dummies' regarding DDR4 (that sponsored by HP Enterprises)

[olkipukki]

My first attempt to Epic EPYC world!

I cannot resist and ignore 7261 for price 3600X!  :palm




Not exactly that I were after initially, but will try and keep as replacement for a lab server later

Again, bizarre situation with mobo, not support both EPYC 2 & 1 and not easy to source in general.