Author Topic: The Non Linear Plasma Reactor  (Read 84723 times)

0 Members and 26 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline NonlinearplasmaTopic starter

  • Frequent Contributor
  • **
  • !
  • Posts: 284
  • Country: scotland
Re: The Non Linear Plasma Reactor
« Reply #525 on: June 10, 2022, 12:28:28 pm »

What makes you think you're the smartest person here?

It's arrogant of you to assume you're the most intelligent person here, because no one else understands your theory. It's far more likely you're either poor at communicating your idea, or it's nonsensical.

Well clearly i understand that electrical current induces a secondary electrical current at 90° and is measured in a sinusoidal wave. But then i thought all electrical people knew that. We call it ocean current for a reason, why would Plasma current not be induced by the same mechanism as electricity when its an electrically conducting fluid?

Why would we also assume the jets of the polodial axis of a Black Hole are powered by Fusion? When we have a mechanism for it in the form of the polidal axis of a toroid compressing plasma?

Why would you assume your intelligent enough to judge any of what i have said as junk science? Esp when these observations of plasma have been used to create Fusion. Such as the toroid and Z-pinch.

If you want to know how complicated systems work, you need to put the work in. If it was easy it would have been done already.

« Last Edit: June 10, 2022, 12:31:41 pm by Nonlinearplasma »
 

Offline bd139

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 23045
  • Country: gb
Re: The Non Linear Plasma Reactor
« Reply #526 on: June 10, 2022, 12:39:12 pm »
If you want to know how complicated systems work, you need to put the work in. If it was easy it would have been done already.

If you want to promote a complicated idea, you need to put the work in to explain it in the language of the problem domain. It should have been done already.
 
The following users thanked this post: hexreader, MK14

Offline NonlinearplasmaTopic starter

  • Frequent Contributor
  • **
  • !
  • Posts: 284
  • Country: scotland
Re: The Non Linear Plasma Reactor
« Reply #527 on: June 10, 2022, 12:39:41 pm »

Code: [Select]
for (;;) {
   wait_for_post();
   printf("Show us the mathematics. That's the language that is required to express these ideas.");
}

The mathematics isnt the problem, its your understanding of what the mathematical is measuring. Its a 3 dimensional sinusoidal helical wave. The mathematics is tracing the wave around the central axis of a 3 dimensional copper conductor. The electron has a trajectory. That is the math you need to understand. So does Plasma, and so do "Magnetic field Lines". Until you lose the Flat 2D perpendicular wave values of negative or at the very least understand it only exists to you the perpendicular observer. Loops and Nodes, Nodes dont go negative. Its a plasma universe.
 

Offline bd139

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 23045
  • Country: gb
Re: The Non Linear Plasma Reactor
« Reply #528 on: June 10, 2022, 12:41:57 pm »

Code: [Select]
for (;;) {
   wait_for_post();
   printf("Show us the mathematics. That's the language that is required to express these ideas.");
}

The mathematics isnt the problem, its your understanding of what the mathematical is measuring. Its a 3 dimensional sinusoidal helical wave. The mathematics is tracing the wave around the central axis of a 3 dimensional copper conductor. The electron has a trajectory. That is the math you need to understand. So does Plasma, and so do "Magnetic field Lines". Until you lose the Flat 2D perpendicular wave values of negative or at the very least understand it only exists to you the perpendicular observer. Loops and Nodes, Nodes dont go negative. Its a plasma universe.

Stop sweeping the problem under the rug. You need to express this in the form of mathematics as they form a viable proof of the word salad you keep serving us.

Do you know even what an integral is?

Edit: also mathematics does not measure anything. It is used to build models and a hypothesis which can be tested by experimentation. Which is what you want. So you have to start with a model and a proof, then sell that to get funding for experimentation. Without a mathematical model, your idea is word salad.

Some hints:

1. Go and do basic algebra and calculus on Khan Academy.
2. Read https://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu ... particularly classical mechanics, electomagnetism at the very least.
3. Buy Mathematica.
4. Attempt to express your basic ideas as mathematics
5. Ask lots of questions to cover any walls you hit and models that don't work.
6. Eventually work out if you have a lump of gold or a lump of poo in your lap.
7. If it's gold, throw your entire brand down the shitter and change your name, then start a whole new funding thing.
« Last Edit: June 10, 2022, 12:51:36 pm by bd139 »
 
The following users thanked this post: madires, hexreader, MK14

Offline NonlinearplasmaTopic starter

  • Frequent Contributor
  • **
  • !
  • Posts: 284
  • Country: scotland
Re: The Non Linear Plasma Reactor
« Reply #529 on: June 10, 2022, 12:59:42 pm »

Stop sweeping the problem under the rug. You need to express this in the form of mathematics as they form a viable proof of the word salad you keep serving us.

Do you know even what an integral is?

Its pretty simple, remove the negative. Change the z axis to a distance measurement, and use anything to repersent the location of the wave around the axis. Ie 0-360° that you just removed from the z-axis. Like the CNC coordinate system, since it is measureing a 3 dimensional reality. The you can use North, East, South and West to understand the lope arrangement ie red or blue. Remembering that the north and south in the quadrupole arrangement are both red, be very carefully with them negatives, they can trick your 2 dimensional flat sinusoidal wave values since they only measure the change in the dipole.
 

Offline bd139

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 23045
  • Country: gb
Re: The Non Linear Plasma Reactor
« Reply #530 on: June 10, 2022, 01:00:38 pm »

Stop sweeping the problem under the rug. You need to express this in the form of mathematics as they form a viable proof of the word salad you keep serving us.

Do you know even what an integral is?

Its pretty simple, remove the negative. Change the z axis to a distance measurement, and use anything to repersent the location of the wave around the axis. Ie 0-360° that you just removed from the z-axis. Like the CNC coordinate system, since it is measureing a 3 dimensional reality. The you can use North, East, South and West to understand the lope arrangement ie red or blue. Remembering that the north and south in the quadrupole arrangement are both red, be very carefully with them negatives, they can trick your 2 dimensional flat sinusoidal wave values since they only measure the change in dipole.

word salad.

Answer the question.

I'd love to see you pitch this to an investor. I'm only 1/10th of the bastard :-DD
 
The following users thanked this post: hexreader

Offline NonlinearplasmaTopic starter

  • Frequent Contributor
  • **
  • !
  • Posts: 284
  • Country: scotland
Re: The Non Linear Plasma Reactor
« Reply #531 on: June 10, 2022, 01:02:20 pm »

Stop sweeping the problem under the rug. You need to express this in the form of mathematics as they form a viable proof of the word salad you keep serving us.

Do you know even what an integral is?

Its pretty simple, remove the negative. Change the z axis to a distance measurement, and use anything to repersent the location of the wave around the axis. Ie 0-360° that you just removed from the z-axis. Like the CNC coordinate system, since it is measureing a 3 dimensional reality. The you can use North, East, South and West to understand the lope arrangement ie red or blue. Remembering that the north and south in the quadrupole arrangement are both red, be very carefully with them negatives, they can trick your 2 dimensional flat sinusoidal wave values since they only measure the change in dipole.

word salad.

Answer the question.

That is the answer genius, work it out. I stand more chance explaining flat sinusoidal waves to flat earths. How hard is it to measure from the central axis in 3 dimensions for you?

Surely you can figure out that all values from that axis are positive? Are they on a CNC machine?
« Last Edit: June 10, 2022, 01:05:42 pm by Nonlinearplasma »
 

Offline bd139

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 23045
  • Country: gb
Re: The Non Linear Plasma Reactor
« Reply #532 on: June 10, 2022, 01:09:54 pm »

Stop sweeping the problem under the rug. You need to express this in the form of mathematics as they form a viable proof of the word salad you keep serving us.

Do you know even what an integral is?

Its pretty simple, remove the negative. Change the z axis to a distance measurement, and use anything to repersent the location of the wave around the axis. Ie 0-360° that you just removed from the z-axis. Like the CNC coordinate system, since it is measureing a 3 dimensional reality. The you can use North, East, South and West to understand the lope arrangement ie red or blue. Remembering that the north and south in the quadrupole arrangement are both red, be very carefully with them negatives, they can trick your 2 dimensional flat sinusoidal wave values since they only measure the change in dipole.

word salad.

Answer the question.

That is the answer genius, work it out. I stand more chance explaining flat sinusoidal waves to flat earths. How hard is it to measure from the central axis in 3 dimensions for you?

Surely you can figure out that all values from that axis are positive? Are they on a CNC machine?

word salad.

answer the question.

Where are the proofs. Where are the maths?
 
The following users thanked this post: xrunner, hexreader, MK14

Offline McBryce

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 2701
  • Country: de
Re: The Non Linear Plasma Reactor
« Reply #533 on: June 10, 2022, 01:47:34 pm »

Joke: Maybe this thread could be the first to go into  a "Junk Science" section.

I find it amazing a bunch of ppl who measure electrical current as a wave and watch it induces secondary currents at 90° and still not understand a simply plasma coil doing the same. Flat earth city

Guess what. We not only understand this stuff, but we can understand even more complicated stuff, such as the mathematics behind these things. So start talking on our level (imagine you are in a room full of people who actually spent years studying this stuff and further years using it in the work). Amaze us with the formulas YOU have come up with to prove your theory. Then we will all be speaking on the same level. We much prefer things like V=IR instead of half a page of text that tries to tell us the same thing.

Referring to other peoples work also won't help here or with any potential investors. It would be like someone looking for money to start a car company, saying they don't have a design or any technical education, but they've watched ever season of TopGear. I doubt the investors would be fumbling for their wallets.

McBryce.
30 Years making cars more difficult to repair.
 
The following users thanked this post: madires, hexreader, MK14, bd139, MrMobodies

Offline NonlinearplasmaTopic starter

  • Frequent Contributor
  • **
  • !
  • Posts: 284
  • Country: scotland
Re: The Non Linear Plasma Reactor
« Reply #534 on: June 10, 2022, 03:23:10 pm »

Joke: Maybe this thread could be the first to go into  a "Junk Science" section.

I find it amazing a bunch of ppl who measure electrical current as a wave and watch it induces secondary currents at 90° and still not understand a simply plasma coil doing the same. Flat earth city

Guess what. We not only understand this stuff, but we can understand even more complicated stuff, such as the mathematics behind these things. So start talking on our level (imagine you are in a room full of people who actually spent years studying this stuff and further years using it in the work). Amaze us with the formulas YOU have come up with to prove your theory. Then we will all be speaking on the same level. We much prefer things like V=IR instead of half a page of text that tries to tell us the same thing.

Referring to other peoples work also won't help here or with any potential investors. It would be like someone looking for money to start a car company, saying they don't have a design or any technical education, but they've watched ever season of TopGear. I doubt the investors would be fumbling for their wallets.

McBryce.

We went through the math of V=IR. How can voltage be produced if resistance is zero? Its not rocket science. I have spoke in your language. Do you know what an electromagnetic wave looks like? Now look at it in 3D. And understand the relationship between the 2 waves inside the helical wave.

Do 2 particles rotating at either side of the wave have opposite energy values? Or are they just rotating their trajectory around the axis in the opposite direction with the same energy value? Your 2D framework says the energy cancels out. But it doesnt, they are rotating at speed along an axis. You are neglecting that rotational energy and calling it the rignt hand rule of magnetism and saying it is a field line. And it just happens to induces on the polidal axis when roating around a toroid.

Look inside the wave attached, 1 sine wave is the electric field the other is the magnetic field. They share a common axis with the 3D wave they are measureing. The negative only exists to YOU the flat earther. If im 180° opposite YOU. I see positive where you see negative. But the central axis observer has a positive amplitude for 360° around the axis.

 

Offline bdunham7

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 7972
  • Country: us
Re: The Non Linear Plasma Reactor
« Reply #535 on: June 10, 2022, 03:37:04 pm »
We went through the math of V=IR. How can voltage be produced if resistance is zero? Its not rocket science.

Yes we did, but all that happened was that you revealed that you don't understand the difference between power and energy as you think there is some kind of inherent paradox in superconductivity.
A 3.5 digit 4.5 digit 5 digit 5.5 digit 6.5 digit 7.5 digit DMM is good enough for most people.
 
The following users thanked this post: bd139

Offline TimFox

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 8092
  • Country: us
  • Retired, now restoring antique test equipment
Re: The Non Linear Plasma Reactor
« Reply #536 on: June 10, 2022, 03:42:43 pm »
"How can voltage be produced if resistance is zero?"
What is the difference between voltage produced and voltage dropped?
Careful technical English is useful.
 

Offline MrMobodies

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 1918
  • Country: gb
Re: The Non Linear Plasma Reactor
« Reply #537 on: June 10, 2022, 03:43:40 pm »

Joke: Maybe this thread could be the first to go into  a "Junk Science" section.

I find it amazing a bunch of ppl who measure electrical current as a wave and watch it induces secondary currents at 90° and still not understand a simply plasma coil doing the same. Flat earth city
Sorry doesn't make sense to me.

I had seconds thoughts and removed my comment minutes after I posted it as I thought it might not be constructive to the thread.

I wonder what Thundef00t would think? Maybe he could do a debunking video on it
« Last Edit: June 10, 2022, 03:47:46 pm by MrMobodies »
 
The following users thanked this post: MK14

Offline NonlinearplasmaTopic starter

  • Frequent Contributor
  • **
  • !
  • Posts: 284
  • Country: scotland
Re: The Non Linear Plasma Reactor
« Reply #538 on: June 10, 2022, 03:52:02 pm »

Yes we did, but all that happened was that you revealed that you don't understand the difference between power and energy as you think there is some kind of inherent paradox in superconductivity.



Well if you cant understand the amplitude of the electromagnetic wave is a key component to the energy and therefore power measured by the math that results from the amplitude of the wave. Incase you forgot the amplitude of the wave is called voltage. Not to mention resistance. So 2 of the key components of measuring energy in the system are zero. While current can be anything. V=IR sounds useless to me.

Once you understand the electromagnetic wave, you might manage to understand the orbital waves created by every rotating object in the solar system and galaxy. I will give you a hint. Negative amplitude, ie negative voltage does not exists in 3 dimensions. And it most certainly does not oscillate in value as measured from the common axis.
« Last Edit: June 10, 2022, 03:56:52 pm by Nonlinearplasma »
 

Offline TimFox

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 8092
  • Country: us
  • Retired, now restoring antique test equipment
Re: The Non Linear Plasma Reactor
« Reply #539 on: June 10, 2022, 04:01:10 pm »
The field strength amplitude is measured in volts/meter, not volts.
It's just as easy to get these things right...
 
The following users thanked this post: MK14, bd139

Offline NonlinearplasmaTopic starter

  • Frequent Contributor
  • **
  • !
  • Posts: 284
  • Country: scotland
Re: The Non Linear Plasma Reactor
« Reply #540 on: June 10, 2022, 04:14:13 pm »
The field strength amplitude is measured in volts/meter, not volts.
It's just as easy to get these things right...

I think the negative value is a little bit more of a fundamental issue, when it cant be measured in 3 dimensions.
 

Offline TimFox

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 8092
  • Country: us
  • Retired, now restoring antique test equipment
Re: The Non Linear Plasma Reactor
« Reply #541 on: June 10, 2022, 04:17:21 pm »
Of course, the field itself is a vector, with a positive magnitude (absolute value) and a direction.
 

Offline NonlinearplasmaTopic starter

  • Frequent Contributor
  • **
  • !
  • Posts: 284
  • Country: scotland
Re: The Non Linear Plasma Reactor
« Reply #542 on: June 10, 2022, 06:10:46 pm »
Of course, the field itself is a vector, with a positive magnitude (absolute value) and a direction.

So the electric field of this toroid and the frame of reference has been determined to be between 12 and 6, the magnetic field is then by default the equatorial axis between 3 and 9. Since the inside of the toroid has the same magnetic vector with a negative value. Thus it is considered a south pole. Or the opppsite to positive which is in the 3 position on the outside of the toroid. In order to maintain geometry for the directional change of the current we have flipped the clock face as shown. The issue is the positive and negative values can not flip as well. They are fixed. This means where reality says the electric field is a uniform dipole, the math derived from 2D waves has produced a positive and negative value for either end of the dipole. If we correct this issue then we run into the same problem on the magnetic field values.

The we have the secondary axis to measure from, as waves reach his location we must be able to determine the force. Since 2 negatives are above his locations and he is looking at the opposite side, we can assume both to be positive values of motion. While the opposite side of the wave to this location is now suppose to be negative and opposite, it is further away and more positive than the "negative" wave value on all sides of the toroid.

Maxwells equations work in a 2 dimensional universe, they do not work for 3 dimensional waves.

Try to fix the problem? Find a better method that provides the correct values so every observer can accurately predict the location direction and amplitude of the helical wave peak at any time.

Its hard to wrap your head around, but thats what you have to do. You have to view it in terms of spin up and spin down to view the quadrupole correctly, and clockwise or anticlockwise to view the dipole correctly. Its not a math exercise, its a perspective exercise. How does the opposite observer view rotation to you? You have to be able to look both ways along a helical wave and see the directional change of rotation switching the pole on your perspective, even although it is spinning the same way and all values are still the same.
« Last Edit: June 10, 2022, 07:01:13 pm by Nonlinearplasma »
 

Offline bd139

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 23045
  • Country: gb
Re: The Non Linear Plasma Reactor
« Reply #543 on: June 10, 2022, 07:20:47 pm »
Maxwells equations work in a 2 dimensional universe, they do not work for 3 dimensional waves.

That's some top tier bullshit. Are you living in some relativistic Flatland?

Maxwells equations are quite happy in Minkowski space. That proof is over 100 years old now  :palm:

And for ref, it's ALL a mathematical exercise.



Edit: thanks to reminder from dunkemhigh, image courtesy XKCD :)
« Last Edit: June 10, 2022, 07:37:20 pm by bd139 »
 
The following users thanked this post: hexreader, MK14

Offline PlainName

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 7044
  • Country: va
Re: The Non Linear Plasma Reactor
« Reply #544 on: June 10, 2022, 07:35:01 pm »
Nicked from https://xkcd.com/435/

As he says:

Quote
This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 2.5 License.

This means that you are free to copy and reuse any of my drawings (noncommercially) as long as you tell people where they're from.
(my emphasis)
 
The following users thanked this post: bd139, MrMobodies

Offline abquke

  • Regular Contributor
  • *
  • Posts: 128
  • Country: us
Re: The Non Linear Plasma Reactor
« Reply #545 on: June 10, 2022, 07:36:13 pm »
OP: "I don't need a falsifiable experiment because my theory is always right"
 
The following users thanked this post: hexreader, Cyberdragon, TimFox, MK14, bd139

Online MK14

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 4708
  • Country: gb
Re: The Non Linear Plasma Reactor
« Reply #546 on: June 10, 2022, 07:55:39 pm »
OP: "Maths is entirely optional, and not needed, under all circumstances"
 
The following users thanked this post: bd139

Offline hexreader

  • Frequent Contributor
  • **
  • Posts: 264
  • Country: england
Re: The Non Linear Plasma Reactor
« Reply #547 on: June 10, 2022, 08:54:09 pm »
It seems I misunderstood your post on "anti gravity" and incorrectly read your post as an assertion of "antigravity" - a very different thing  :(. Apologies for not understanding.

I am still struggling to understand....

1) Are you proposing the achievement of over-unity? (perpetual motion)

You seem to have no fuel input to your proposed system, but have a power output.

2) How can you have no fuel input, but power output?

3) Is this some kind of cold fusion? Zero-point energy? Harnessing quantum foam energy?

I honestly don't get how it is possible to extract power with no obvious input.

4) Never heard of a self-sustaining dynamo. Is that a thing?

Simple answers please.... I am of only average intelligence.
« Last Edit: June 10, 2022, 10:02:11 pm by hexreader »
 
The following users thanked this post: MK14, bd139, MrMobodies

Offline bdunham7

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 7972
  • Country: us
Re: The Non Linear Plasma Reactor
« Reply #548 on: June 10, 2022, 10:31:12 pm »
4) Never heard of a self-sustaining dynamo. Is that a thing?

I'll answer that--yes it is a 'thing' but it is not a perpetual motion machine, thus we don't call it an infinitely self-sustaining dynamo.  It is harnessing energy already present in the planet and eventually it will run out.

https://phys.org/news/2010-03-dynamo-theory-small-planets-self-sustaining.html
A 3.5 digit 4.5 digit 5 digit 5.5 digit 6.5 digit 7.5 digit DMM is good enough for most people.
 
The following users thanked this post: MK14, MrMobodies

Offline NonlinearplasmaTopic starter

  • Frequent Contributor
  • **
  • !
  • Posts: 284
  • Country: scotland
Re: The Non Linear Plasma Reactor
« Reply #549 on: June 11, 2022, 01:49:26 am »
4) Never heard of a self-sustaining dynamo. Is that a thing?

I'll answer that--yes it is a 'thing' but it is not a perpetual motion machine, thus we don't call it an infinitely self-sustaining dynamo.  It is harnessing energy already present in the planet and eventually it will run out.

https://phys.org/news/2010-03-dynamo-theory-small-planets-self-sustaining.html

Thanks for proving my point.

The self sustaining dynamo is produced in the toroidal current. Like any electrical coil this induces a secondary current  at 90°. Obviously just like the electrical coil. This is the central poloidal axis of the currents rotation. Ie the Z- Pinch. In a self sustaining dynamo this energy can be extracted without interfering with the primary plasma current around the toroid. Go back and look at the plasma reactor design.
 


Share me

Digg  Facebook  SlashDot  Delicious  Technorati  Twitter  Google  Yahoo
Smf