Brava - Pure Light Cooking

[Cyberdragon]

https://www.brava.com

Pretty sure it's just an overpriced toaster oven with infrared quartz tubes instead of nichrome-ceramic heaters.

But I'll let the cooking gadget gurus here judge this one.

[themadhippy]

cooking with light you say?

[WattsThat]

A $1500 toaster oven that requires a dedicated 20 amp receptacle. Yeah, at least 30% of them will be returned due to tripping 15 amp breakers and dimming lights. Have LED lights on a dimmer near by? Be prepared for them to go bonkers when that special toaster is energized 

Too expensive and problematic to install. It needs 1800 watts to get to the point of functional cooking. A $100-$200 tabletop convection unit will cook in half the time with half the power.

I/R cooking? Fuggedaboutit

[Haenk]

infrared oven, easily available below 200EUR/USD elsewhere...
So not a scam, just expensive.

[james_s]

My friend in England has a microwave oven with IR elements in it. I'd never seen a combo device like that before but it works pretty well, gives you the crispy oven baked skin on things like chicken with the speed of a microwave. I think power is the reason they're not available in North America, it really needs 240V to get enough power and while we do typically have 240V in the kitchen here, it's only in a big heavy duty 40-60A socket back behind the range.

[Halcyon]

At least it's not a "smart" device... oh wait... 

It even has a camera in it! Because, you know, a glass door would have just been way too simple. Hey, at least you don't have to connect it to your network, it operates offline, which is something I suppose?

Just another pointless gadget taking up bench space in the kitchen, when most people already have ovens, microwaves and cooktops/hobs.

[Gyro]

My friend in England has a microwave oven with IR elements in it. I'd never seen a combo device like that before but it works pretty well, gives you the crispy oven baked skin on things like chicken with the speed of a microwave. I think power is the reason they're not available in North America, it really needs 240V to get enough power and while we do typically have 240V in the kitchen here, it's only in a big heavy duty 40-60A socket back behind the range.

Ha, curious. You tend to assume that kitchen appliances are much the same in different countries. Combination Microwaves are very common here (though they're probably more messy to clean). They run off a standard 230V 13A socket. Allowing, say, 1kW for the microwave, that leaves nearly 2kW available for the elements. I'm pretty sure they don't push it to the limit though.

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/combination-microwaves/cooking/microwaves/335_3152_32014_xx_ba00011226-bv00310367/xx-criteria.html

[wraper]

Oven using halogen heating lamps. Usually sold in a form of cooking pot.

[james_s]

Ha, curious. You tend to assume that kitchen appliances are much the same in different countries. Combination Microwaves are very common here (though they're probably more messy to clean). They run off a standard 230V 13A socket. Allowing, say, 1kW for the microwave, that leaves nearly 2kW available for the elements. I'm pretty sure they don't push it to the limit though.

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/combination-microwaves/cooking/microwaves/335_3152_32014_xx_ba00011226-bv00310367/xx-criteria.html

Yeah he said they were common there, I'd never seen one before. Here our microwave ovens are typically 600W-1200W and when you can pull 1800W from a standard 15A 120V receptacle that doesn't leave much left over for additional heating devices. There is definitely an advantage to having a standard receptacle with so much power available, no reason why US houses couldn't have special 240V receptacles in places like kitchens, they exist for other purposes, we just never see them there.

[Cyberdragon]

Ha, curious. You tend to assume that kitchen appliances are much the same in different countries. Combination Microwaves are very common here (though they're probably more messy to clean). They run off a standard 230V 13A socket. Allowing, say, 1kW for the microwave, that leaves nearly 2kW available for the elements. I'm pretty sure they don't push it to the limit though.

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/combination-microwaves/cooking/microwaves/335_3152_32014_xx_ba00011226-bv00310367/xx-criteria.html

Yeah he said they were common there, I'd never seen one before. Here our microwave ovens are typically 600W-1200W and when you can pull 1800W from a standard 15A 120V receptacle that doesn't leave much left over for additional heating devices. There is definitely an advantage to having a standard receptacle with so much power available, no reason why US houses couldn't have special 240V receptacles in places like kitchens, they exist for other purposes, we just never see them there.

We have combination microwave+convection ovens over here, just not microwave+toaster ovens. Our units run in one mode at a time only though (AFAIK).

[james_s]

We have combination microwave+convection ovens over here, just not microwave+toaster ovens. Our units run in one mode at a time only though (AFAIK).

My mom has one of those, a GE purchased in around 1995. That's the thing, it's one or the other, you can't do microwave/convection like you can with the British things.

[Alex Eisenhut]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trivection_oven

[JohnG]

It's available in the US for some time now. Expensive, though: https://www.cnet.com/reviews/ge-advantium-wall-oven-combo-preview/

John

[mzzj]

You can cook with modern high power leds.  Light output from Bridgelux Vero29 led module will burn trough paper in couple of seconds.
V22 modules set in 4x4 pattern would cover  one slice of toast... two sides so 16 modules per toast, 110W input per module = 1760W LED toaster. Efficiency is only somewhere around 40% but I think ~400W optical power will suffice for one toast slice.