Windows DCH driver APP/store bullshit & Intel BLOATED DCH drivers missing things

[MrMobodies]

All I wanted to do was to force on Vsync by default.
I got there in the end but so frustrated by the amount of time and effort I had to go for something this is suppose to be so easy, simple and basic to set settings that I had to struggle removing the new Command Centre despite uninstalling and trying to find a version of the previous Intel Graphics Control Panel to install and show up.

I simply click that an the Intel Control Panel appears in about a second.


I add Unrealtournament:

That's it and the tearing stops. Not hard is it and I thought that was a bit oversimplified an dumbed down.

From the beginning
I installed the chipset drivers on this Lenovo T490's laptop but found later on with certain games and stuff tearing. So I find the Intel Control panel now here it seems:



Ridiculous. 8 SECONDS! to load that up.

License:

Not pleased with having information collected but it gets better when they remove features like below.

I thought it looked like a social networking tool at first with that is at the bottom:

Why are these STUPID things in there that launch the web browser and URL.
Like that is so important that anything else.
What place does it have in such a tool that controls the graphics settings.
Don't you think that is just stupid?
As soon as I saw that I thought it is going to be crap and not give me what I want.



Options to control Anti Aliaising an Vsync not there.

Turns out I was right.
https://community.intel.com/t5/Graphics/Not-able-to-turn-off-vsync/m-p/366466/highlight/true

idata ‎01-14-2012 05:12 PM
There is no off option on my Intel Graphics HD display manager.

How do I force vsync off?

Allan_J_Intel1 01-19-2012 08:24 AM
Hi there!

The latest Intel graphics drivers does not provide an option to turn off Vertical Sync, you will need to take a look within your game options or programs settings for a place to disable such feature.

thanks

Allan.

Well that is very helpful isn't it.

https://community.intel.com/t5/Graphics/Trouble-finding-the-V-sync-option-in-Graphics-Command-Center/td-p/1438998

MatthewTheFetus Beginner ‎12-15-2022 01:02 PM 5,243 Views
So I just downloaded the Intel Graphics Command Center on my laptop (hopefully the laptop isn't the issue here) and I wanted to force V-sync

Steven_Intel 12-22-2022 03:40 PM
Hello MatthewTheFetus,

The latest version of Intel® Graphics Command Center (IGCC) that was pushed to the Microsoft Store is indeed IGCC lite. This means that all game-related features have been removed and the display features remain.

Gaming related features have been moved from Intel® Graphics Command Center to our newest gamer focused user interface, Intel® Arc Control. We recommend that users who meet the minimum requirements for Arc Control install the application to tweak their gaming features, settings and for screen/game capture related features. Intel® Arc Control is bundled with our latest graphics software packages on Intel.com.

I had problems where I'd install the driver but the Intel Control panel service wouldn't appear or start in Services, according to the logs the files were missing in the driverstore but the folder was there so I manually copied them over and now the previous Intel Graphics Control Panel appears with the Vsync setting. I thought it was all put into c:\windows\system32 and the Driver sub folder.

I thought it was just Intel but I see Microsoft ordered it:
https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-uk/000134505/what-are-dch-drivers-and-why-do-you-need-to-know-about-them

What are DCH Drivers?
Windows Declarative Decorative Componentized Hardware (DCH) supported apps and drivers are driver packages that install and run on Universal Windows Platform (UWP) based editions of Windows.

Note: Integrated user interfaces or applications are stripped from the driver package. When the driver is installed, it pulls the appropriate application from the Microsoft Store  or where it is pre-installed on the computer.
 
Declarative (D): Installs the driver by using only declarative Information (INF) directives. Does not include co-installers or Register Dynamic Link Library (DLL) functions
Componentized (C): Edition-specific, OEM-specific, and optional customizations to the driver are separate from the base driver package. As a result, the base driver, which provides only core device functionality, can be targeted, flighted, and serviced independently from the customizations
Hardware Support App (H): Any user interface (UI) components that are associated with a universal driver must be packaged as a Hardware Support App (HSA). Alternatively, they must be preinstalled on the OEM device. An HSA is an optional device-specific app that is paired with a driver. The application can be a UWP or Desktop Bridge app. You must distribute and update an HSA through the Microsoft Store.
Note: UWP based editions of Windows, which started with Windows 10 version 1709 (Fall Creators Update).

Cause
How does this affect my Dell computer?
Moving to DCH drivers is a requirement  from Microsoft for anyone developing drivers for Windows going forward.

Dell supplies copies of the drivers that are used for all its computers on its support pages. Windows drivers are changing to DCH as they are developed and updated. There is a chance that you can have driver issues if you are unaware of this change that started with Windows 10 (version 1709). Regularly update your version of Windows and keep your drivers up to date as recommended by Microsoft and Dell.

Resolution
Can I roll back to a legacy driver?
All the driver vendors recommend upgrading from Legacy to Windows DCH drivers. They all point you to your computer manufacturer for the latest driver updates. (Dell Support Site.) Most vendors actively try and discourage you from going in the other direction.   (Going from a DCH driver back to a Legacy driver.) * Most driver vendors advise that it is a complex process  that can result in system instability.    Most have asked that you to contact them directly if you think you need to attempt it.

* Most driver vendors advise that it is a complex process

* UTTER BULLSHIT! All I do is find out the name of the whatever, download the driver, and install it and it appears in either the control panel, start menu or wherever and that's not hard. They seem to make it hard when it is not.

I find this hard: It SHOULD NOT need to or depend, Net framework to function for the "APP" and up to date, a Microsoft account, a stupid APP store to fin and install it and the package being available in this store.

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000088086/graphics/intel-arc-dedicated-graphics-family.html

Differences Between Intel® Arc Control, Intel® Graphics Command Center, and the Intel® Graphics Control PanelThe Intel® Graphics Control Panel doesn't need to be installed manually. 
Intel Graphics Control Panel

Released with legacy graphics drivers.

The Intel Graphics Control Panel is included with the drivers mentioned below. If the Intel® Graphics Control Panel is not installed on the system automatically with the drivers mentioned below, your system must have newer drivers and we recommend installing the Intel Graphics Command Center instead. 

On one occasion during my experiments trying to get the old panel to work I had to manually remove the Command Centre drivers and services which were still there after I selected to uninstall and delete the driver. Maybe they deliberately made it like according to the article above from DELL.

Intel Graphics Command Center

Released in the Microsoft Store  in November 2018.

Visit the Microsoft Store.

I see Intel removed the VSYNC and other settings to another "APP" Arc, in the Appstore for gamers.
I want Vsync forced on all the time not just for games.
I find it stupid to split the driver package in half in the first place for all the basic things and just stick it on the APP store. I should be able to go in there and set things directly not depend on a whole load of things to have access to it.

In my case they appeared bundled with the installer from the Lenovo drivers but lacking the most basic features.

https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-uk/000134505/what-are-dch-drivers-and-why-do-you-need-to-know-about-them

Note: Integrated user interfaces or applications are stripped from the driver package. When the driver is installed, it pulls the appropriate application from the Microsoft Store  or where it is pre-installed on the computer.

I find it so much worse that Microsoft seems to be demanding that to access the settings of the driver, for it to only be accessible from from Net Framework "APPS" obtained from their Appstore.

What do you think?

[Analog Kid]

I have, at this point, totally given up on goddamn motherfucking Micro$oft or any of their OSs beyond what I have.

I'm very happily using Windows 7, which, yeah, I know, is obsolete, no longer supported, yadda yadda yadda. Whatever. I'll use it until either 1) I die or 2) it becomes unusable due to some cloud/interweb/other requirement that can't be overcome except by buying the latest and greatest version, at which point I will take all my computer equipment to a remote location, procure some high explosives and blow it all to Kingdom Come.

[MrMobodies]

It took me two years to customize that Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 1809, observing it on the side and removing unwanted things like Waasmedic and things that appear like this dialogue over the traybar above the the time, "YOU NEED UPDATES... CLICK HERE TO INSTALL etc" and preventing the UpdateOrchestrator from doing what they like, to get it the way I want until I started using it myself. I have a disc image I extract when I want another one and buy the key. That should be supported for another 5 years or so.

I refuse after what I saw in 2019 to have an operating system with an App store where Microsoft has remote control and dictate everything and install Candycrush or anything behind my back without my consent or permission

I hear with the Windows 11 or was it 12 that you NEED to have a camera if it is a laptop.

Since when was it their business whether it was a laptop or desktop to dictate what they DEMAND you have.

When I buy something new out of the shop I expect it to work OUT OF THE BOX with no fictitious dependencies that may not be there or available one day.

What happened above with the Command Centre and the data gathering and telemetry reminds me of this Sony XA2 phone that was given to me in 2020 where I ended up replacing the operating system with Lineagos. It had this Microsoft Swiftkey installed that had no settings to, turn off suggestions, autofill, predictive texting, that appear above the keyboard take up room and annoy as I type, I can spell thank you very much. I tried to install the original Android keyboard but it kept on failing to install now I wonder if that was deliberate as well.

In the settings of this Microsoft Swiftkey which hardly had any, it mentions about the words I type being collected and sent to Microsoft labs for analysis. So it's ALL ABOUT Microsoft and what THEY WANT. Sod the user if they want a few settings to suit their needs.

Look what i found.
https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/2/24233992/microsoft-recall-windows-11-uninstall-feature-bug

/ Microsoft is working to fix Recall showing up as an optional Windows 11 feature.
By Tom Warren, a senior editor and author of Notepad, who has been covering all things Microsoft, PC, and tech for over 20 years. Sep 2, 2024, 9:42 AM GMT+1 Illustration of Windows Recall

While the latest update to Windows 11 makes it look like the upcoming Recall feature can be easily removed by users, Microsoft tells us it’s just a bug and a fix is coming. Deskmodder spotted the change last week in the latest 24H2 version of Windows 11, with KB5041865 seemingly delivering the ability to uninstall Recall from the Windows Features section.

“We are aware of an issue where Recall is incorrectly listed as an option under the ‘Turn Windows features on or off’ dialog in Control Panel,” says Windows senior product manager Brandon LeBlanc in a statement to The Verge. “This will be fixed in an upcoming update.”

Recall appeared as an optional Windows feature recently. Image: Tom Warren / The Verge
The controversial Recall AI feature, which creates screenshots of mostly everything you see or do on a computer, was originally supposed to debut with Copilot Plus PCs in June. Microsoft was forced to delay the feature after security researchers raised concerns. Microsoft says it remains on track to preview Recall with Windows Insiders on Copilot Plus PCs in October, after the company has had more time to make major changes to Recall.

Security researchers initially found that the Recall database that stores the snapshots of your computer every few seconds wasn’t encrypted, and malware could have potentially accessed the Recall feature. Microsoft is now making the AI-powered feature an opt-in experience instead of on by default, encrypting the database, and authenticating through Windows Hello.

We did ask Microsoft whether it will allow Windows users to fully uninstall Recall, as this appearance in the Windows features list suggests, but the company only confirmed this was just “incorrectly listed” for now. It’s possible that Microsoft may need to add a Recall uninstall option to EU copies of Windows 11 to comply with the European Commission’s Digital Markets Act. Microsoft has already had to add an uninstall option for Edge in European Economic Area (EEA) countries, alongside the ability to remove the Bing-powered web search in the Start menu.

Fixing it FOR THEMSELVES
User don't want that and uninstall, we'll IMPROVE it by FORCING it upon you.
Sounds to me like harassment.

I had someone complain to me about this out of the many things (nagged about paying for Onedrive,  try Office 365 trial (he uses LibreOffice, has to set his privacy settings again after every couple of weeks after the updates). Earlier this year and the final nail in the coffin was when this Co-Pilot thing he said kept on interfering with his audio programs. To me it looked like an extension out of Edge. Anyway he had enough and wanted to try that modified copy of Windows 10 LTSC that I put on an old Duo Core for him a couple of years ago. Now he is pleased that he is left alone and doesn't just slow down with all that crap in the background when he is working on his stuff.

This goes to show that it is ALL about Microsoft and what they want for the mass majority. The mass majority who they think are stupid and confused don't know they doing or what they're doing or want (which is where I think they are effectively calling them stupid.)

[sarge]

I like your attention to detail. Sucks it has come to this, and why people like me among others chose to stick to linux.

[Analog Kid]

I'd certainly consider using some flavor of *nix--IF I were a geek, if I took perverse pleasure in constantly editing dozens of configuration files, and if I liked spending about half my time tweaking the OS to do what I wanted, rather than just using it.

Thanks but no thanks.

[MrMobodies]

if I took perverse pleasure in constantly editing dozens of configuration files, and if I liked spending about half my time tweaking the OS to do what I wanted, rather than just using it.

I did it out of frustration and anger until I made it usable for myself and I do use it a lot.
I thought it was over when I made usable 2 years ago for another 8 years until now as I came across these DCH drivers, the issues and here I am once again trying to make that usable. You are absolutely correct. I am no longer enjoying the gift (laptop) that was given to me after all of this.

I feel the need to make changes and alter things when they are all of a sudden changed to work against me and set to hinder me in so many ways just like starting with Windows Vista Business that I gave up on at first which was bundled with a Lenovo W700 laptop in 2008 due to the:

Stupid breadcrumbs set to fill the address bar with arrows, shortening information and sometimes omitting the drive letters.

Folder views changed to tiles or large icons with the filenames hidden automatically when reopening folders all because it had a jpg file in it. Procedure is to go into properties, end tab and change from "all items" to pictures? or videos? then the option appears to unhide file names appears in the menu. Then it happens again some time later.

Heavy utilization of hard disk which made it slow (and as if it was doing nothing) but was due to search indexer searching everything and everywhere with no exclusions set and superFetch using it but I didn't know was causing the slowness at the time and just installed a customized copy of Windows 2003 on it for a while.

I like things in a certain way before I find I can focus and use them comfortably without making it so much more difficult than it has to be.

Windows 10:
Folders Search with the stupid "RATINGS" field and in TILE view
All I need is Details view with fields; "Name", "Type", "Size", "Date Created", "Date Modified" and "path" if searching.
Had to use folder bags for that in Windows to as it seems to default.

Classic shell now takes care of the hiding the breadcrumbs instead of the breadcrumb killer that use to cause problems with the key so pleased about that.

Advanced Appearance settings removed and the title bars bloated.
So I copied the registry over from Windows 7 and made a few adjustment which seems to help free up space with small screens.

Just noticed this from the screenshots I took:

15. GOVERNMNT RESTRICTED RIGHTS. The Software is a commercial item (as defined in 48 C.F.R 2.101) consisting of commerial computer software and commercial computer social documentation (as those terms are used in 48 C.F.R 12.212). Consistant with 48 C.F.R 12.212 and 48 C.F.R 227.7202-1 through 227.7202-4, You will not provide the software to the U.S. Government. * Contractor or Manufacturer is Intel Corporation, 2200 Mission College Blv., Santa Clara, CA 95054

So a graphics card settings panel that was "suppose" to provide a simple set of controls and now cannot be used in government and I wonder why?

* A little strange to me as it was designed in their own country
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I like your attention to detail. Sucks it has come to this, and why people like me among others chose to stick to linux.

I'd certainly consider using some flavor of *nix

I think 1809 will be my last Microsoft OS and one day I will have no other choice so got to start finding a Linux vendor and see which one I am happy with. I don't want Gnome 3 so it'd be KDE and Plasma turn help turn off all the animations and annoyances that could come with it.

When I had a look at the next LTSC build a few years ago and saw the annoying animated skeleton placeholders that flash an annoy that they copied from webpages and also hog up cpu time there on the start menu and panels I gave up on it.