Audiophoolery: Mains RF Isolators

[EEVblog]

This is a doozy!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Isoclean-13A-UK-RF-Isolator-Pack-of-4/293087880120

[EEVblog]

This company has it all!
https://www.analogueseduction.net/cable-treatment/isoclean-cs-128-cable-stabilizer.html
https://www.analogueseduction.net/contact-treatment.html

[Gregg]

Analog Seduction is just trying to “Make Analog Great Again” 
Maybe Dave should copyright this slogan and make up some hats and tee shirts; then sell the whole concept to these seduction people.

[SL4P]

This company has it all!
https://www.analogueseduction.net/cable-treatment/isoclean-cs-128-cable-stabilizer.html
https://www.analogueseduction.net/contact-treatment.html

Quite appropriate to shorten their name to - AnalSeduction...

[vk6zgo]

This is a doozy!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Isoclean-13A-UK-RF-Isolator-Pack-of-4/293087880120

Am I missing something, or is that a piece of metal with an earth pin?

Back in the day, we did have Mains RF filters, which were about the diameter of a 400 gram instant coffee can, about half the height, &  had a power socket on top.
They had real filters in them, made up of L & C, so they actually did something.
It  was still a bit of a niche market, as not many people had any great level of RF interference on their Mains supply.

Their current capacity was very low, so a lot of them came back as "faulty" after people plugged their small electric room heaters into the "wrong socket".
All they were good for after that was the dumpster!

[magic]

Yes, it's basically shielding over unused mains sockets

Too bad it probably makes fuck all difference in practice.

[magic]

Features:

    More Transparent
    Reduce Booming
    More Detailed
    Airy & Spacious
    More Analogue Sounding

LOL, they aren't even being subtle. I presume if you disagree with any of that you are free to return, no questions asked. At that kind of margin they surely car afford that. Not a bad business from a purely financial perspective if you ask me 

I always wonder how many people making those things genuinely believe their own bullshit and where the cynics begin
There has to be some mix of both.

[Sighound36]

Just a thought, maybe Dave could pose the technical question of does it work    aspect towards the manufacturer see if they respond?

[magic]

Yes, it increases subjective transparency, nobody quite knows why, scientists hate him.

Any other questions?

[GeorgeOfTheJungle]

This company has it all!
https://www.analogueseduction.net/cable-treatment/isoclean-cs-128-cable-stabilizer.html
https://www.analogueseduction.net/contact-treatment.html

WOW! Good stuff!

[Tepe]

Maybe they can be turned into cufflinks 

[MrMobodies]

This is a doozy!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Isoclean-13A-UK-RF-Isolator-Pack-of-4/293087880120

It looks like a safety plug cover with a knob stuck over it


Isoclean CS-128 Cable Stablizer

https://www.analogueseduction.net/cable-treatment/isoclean-cs-128-cable-stabilizer.html

PLEASE NOTE THE PRICE SHOWN IS FOR ONE SINGLE STABILIZER

Units constructed of high quality Copper plates for mass and stability. Designed for signal cables, mains cords and speaker cables of different sizes. Chrome, polished and provided with Stainless Steel tip toe for carpeted areas.
Features:

    More Transparent
    Reduce Booming
    More Detailed
    Airy & Spacious
    More Analogue Sounding
    Dimension: 100(D) x 75(W) x 50(H)mm
    Weight: 1.26 kg

Just put some fins in there and wouldn't that make a good heatsink?

[Halcyon]

LOL, they aren't even being subtle. I presume if you disagree with any of that you are free to return, no questions asked. At that kind of margin they surely car afford that. Not a bad business from a purely financial perspective if you ask me 

Sometimes I wonder if it's really just a member of this or similar forums taking the piss (and the money from gullible people). I can't help but feel a little jealous, but then my morals kick in.

[MrMobodies]

This company has it all!

Just looking at them on Companieshouse and so right you are.
They seem to do be doing very well out of it and any debt on their accounts seem small.

It looks like they are selling the stuff out of a great big mansion house on the maps according to their contact details.

They were selling the stuff in a property on Eastfield Road before the mansion house in 2014 according to Archive.org but they now use it for some leasehold business under different names.

A picture on their page
https://www.analogueseduction.net/contact.html


https://suite.endole.co.uk/insight/company/06930988-analogue-seduction-ltd
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/06930988
ANALOGUE SEDUCTION LTD               Incorporated   11 June 2009


https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10028798
LAINSKA HOMES LTD (Dormant)         Incorporated   26 February 2016


https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/11574564
PENSKA PROPERTIES LTD                   Incorporated   18 September 2018



2005 - 2009
4 Dragonfly Close, Hampton Hargate, Peterborough. PE7 8DD.
https://web.archive.org/web/20090211055246/http://www.analogueseduction.net:80/

2009 - 2014
143 Eastfield Road, Peterborough, Cambridgeshire, PE1 4AU
https://web.archive.org/web/20091008032528/http://www.analogueseduction.net/frontend/contactUs


2014 - present
The Manor House, 6 Manor View Whittlesey, Peterborough, United Kingdom, PE7 1TF
https://web.archive.org/web/20140414230345/http://www.analogueseduction.net/

I can't seem to find much on the property price of that Manor house.


Edit:
Apparently that mansion is for their "consultancy" where they do the brainwashing and my mistake there is another address underneath that I missed:

(Head Office and Business Operations)

Analogue Seduction
Units 14 and 15 Springwater Business Park,
Station Road, Whittlesey,
Peterborough,
Cambridgeshire
PE7 2EU


I was looking at some brand that makes contact cleaner for them:

http://www.kontakaudio.com/contact.html

Kontak Audio Technologies
14/15 Springwater Business Park,
Station Road
Whittlesey
PE7 2EU
United Kingdom

Just in the same place as their "head office".

[Matty272]

Don't forget the Supreme fuses...

https://www.analogueseduction.net/fuses/hi-fi-tuning-supreme-fuses-5-x-20mm-t.html

Only £38.89 for 5 of them.

[MrMobodies]

Don't forget the Supreme fuses...

https://www.analogueseduction.net/fuses/hi-fi-tuning-supreme-fuses-5-x-20mm-t.html

Only £38.89 for 5 of them.

https://www.analogueseduction.net/fuses/hi-fi-tuning-supreme-fuses-5-x-20mm-t.html

"99% Silver + 1% Gold = 100% Sound - more speed, dynamics, clarity, better 3D!"

I'd like to think so when that explodes.

"Because in all other upgrade fuses, the copper-based burn wire will degrade over time due to oxidation - silver oxide is a good conductor. And of course all HiFi-Tuning fuses are deep cryo treated!

Here's a joke: ... if it is going to affect the audiophools so much don't bother putting a fuse in there in the first place.

[Ben321]

This is a doozy!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Isoclean-13A-UK-RF-Isolator-Pack-of-4/293087880120

I'm not 100% sure, but it looks like the entire thing (pins and body of the plug) are made out of a single block of copper. If that's the case, plugging it in would instantly cause an electrical short, and possible house-fire!

[AVGresponding]

They don't have pins for the live conductors, only for the earth.

Still, the way BS1362 sockets work means that using these defeats the safety features.

Perhaps that will result in some of these audiophools managing to Darwinise themselves.

[PlainName]

Still, the way BS1362 sockets work means that using these defeats the safety features

In what way? The safety feature is there to stop kids poking their fingers in the hot sockets, and with these fitted those sockets are covered. You can get the same thing made from plastic that allegedly adds extra protection. Being conductive, these should be safer than not having them!

[Cyberdragon]

Still, the way BS1362 sockets work means that using these defeats the safety features

In what way? The safety feature is there to stop kids poking their fingers in the hot sockets, and with these fitted those sockets are covered. You can get the same thing made from plastic that allegedly adds extra protection. Being conductive, these should be safer than not having them!

No, from that perspective this is far worse (assuming the floor is not metal). You only get shocked if current flows from live to a return (N/E). A metal block in the ground pin provides a highly condutive path directly to the return, making getting shocked or electrocuted far easier from sticking something in the live.

(Also assuming this thing can be installed upside down, but even right side up it still has a handle/knobby thing)

[SiliconWizard]

Safety plugs are usually non-conductive.... I certainly wouldn't trust a safety plug made of a highly conductive metal. Some earth connections may be worse than you think.

[PlainName]

Mmm, yes, fair enough. I was thinking it would like a protective ground on any appliance (where the appliance here is actually the hot sockets) rather than as completing a different circuit with the user routing to ground. For the latter, you could say that any water pipe or appliance with metal case is a hazard.

[Cyberdragon]

Mmm, yes, fair enough. I was thinking it would like a protective ground on any appliance (where the appliance here is actually the hot sockets) rather than as completing a different circuit with the user routing to ground. For the latter, you could say that any water pipe or appliance with metal case is a hazard.

They are...which is why ground fault interruptors exist.

[langwadt]

Features:

    More Transparent
    Reduce Booming
    More Detailed
    Airy & Spacious
    More Analogue Sounding

LOL, they aren't even being subtle. I presume if you disagree with any of that you are free to return, no questions asked. At that kind of margin they surely car afford that. Not a bad business from a purely financial perspective if you ask me 

I always wonder how many people making those things genuinely believe their own bullshit and where the cynics begin
There has to be some mix of both.

it must be some kind of money laundering scam

[AVGresponding]

Still, the way BS1362 sockets work means that using these defeats the safety features

In what way? The safety feature is there to stop kids poking their fingers in the hot sockets, and with these fitted those sockets are covered. You can get the same thing made from plastic that allegedly adds extra protection. Being conductive, these should be safer than not having them!

The HSE has issued a directive on those, saying they shouldn't be used, as

(a) None of them conform to the BS1362 size factors, which might strain the spring contacts, causing weakness and possibly causing an increased fire risk,

(b) The "earth pin" is easily broken off, leaving the safety shutters open,

(c) Sockets that comply correctly with BS1362 are not susceptible to little fingers in any case.