FranLab is getting evicted

[EEVblog]

Is there a reason this thread needs to continue? It's been nearly five years since the original event. Do all discussions of this particular YouTuber's channel -- and needlessly invasive discussions of their personal life -- need to continue under the gloomy auspices of this thread's title, or at all? Hopefully I'm not stepping on a landmine with this one.

Everyone here likes Fran, watches her videos, and cares about how she's doing. We just want to help. The thead has stayed open because there literally is something happening on the financial front every 6 months or something. Doesn't make sense a new thread should open every time something happens.
I agree that if this was a private matter that it wouldn't warrant discussion, but it's not private, it's quite public by her own admission.
And it's been a good on-topic place to discuss similar stuff than impacts us all. Housing, rent vs buy, finances, labs and spaces, storage etc.

[EEVblog]

This ^ ^ ^ from Nominal Animal.
Also, the reason why the subject is still being discussed is that there are several people who care and are interested in her well-being, for example:

I really don't want Fran to fail and have to give up this game 

Yes, I also 2nd Nominals post.
For me personally, Fran is a close friend of mine, and we talk a lot about this stuff behind the scenes, or at least we used to. Now sadly I can't even link in a possible cheaper storage solution for her just in case she might need it.
Her public thinking has been that she will progressively shut down the spaces and channel unless the Patreon funds stay at a certain level. And I know she wants nothing more than to keep the channel going. So I for one am not going to abandon helping her, even if that means I have to just give tiny little nudges here and there now, and to discuss it here instead of personally or on her channel.
Maybe if enough people give a little nudge then maybe she'll start to think other options aren't as bad as they seem.
And as Nominal said, it helps others here too, and many of us enjoy discussing these sorts of topics.

[nctnico]

IMHO the 'it is not about the nail' video Sokoloff posted is good food for thought. Some people are just so stuck in their world that it takes a special intervention to make them see the light.

I witnessed one particular example while swimming in an outside pool during Covid restrictions. We where all supposed to swim counter clockwise in a big circle using two 'joined' swimming lanes. Everyone was doing that. But one time there was a lady that just kept swimming straight lines between the sides of the pool. The life guard told her a couple of times to swim in a circle like everybody else in order to maintain distance. It just didn't compute with her and the third time the lifeguard told her go swim in a circle or leave. She left in anger. Now what is simpler than swimming in a circle?    But how do you get through to someone that appearantly doesn't have the ability to go through that thought process?

[SiliconWizard]

That's a nice story.

[jonovid]

be thankful for the space you have, others have less.  that feel the need to stay in one place.
New York City dog box 80 by 150 with a shared bathroom for $650 a month.   

[EEVblog]

Video released:

[james_s]

be thankful for the space you have, others have less.  that feel the need to stay in one place.
New York City dog box 80 by 150 with a shared bathroom for $650 a month.   

It's all about choices. A person could easily find somewhere else to live if having space was worth more than being in that particular location. Personally I can't see why someone would want to live in NYC at all, much less at the cost of doing so.

[EEVblog]

be thankful for the space you have, others have less.  that feel the need to stay in one place.
New York City dog box 80 by 150 with a shared bathroom for $650 a month.   

It's all about choices. A person could easily find somewhere else to live if having space was worth more than being in that particular location. Personally I can't see why someone would want to live in NYC at all, much less at the cost of doing so.

I'm happy with my 750sqm block and house (expanding upwards soon), 50sqm office, 44sqm bunker, and 31sqm dungeon.
With hindsight of course I should have bought bigger with both the home and lab, or simply bought a big block of land I could have built a huge lab on. Both house and lab and storage units have risen about 300% or more.

[AVGresponding]

Is there a reason this thread needs to continue? It's been nearly five years since the original event. Do all discussions of this particular YouTuber's channel -- and needlessly invasive discussions of their personal life -- need to continue under the gloomy auspices of this thread's title, or at all? Hopefully I'm not stepping on a landmine with this one.

Everyone here likes Fran, watches her videos, and cares about how she's doing. We just want to help. The thead has stayed open because there literally is something happening on the financial front every 6 months or something. Doesn't make sense a new thread should open every time something happens.
I agree that if this was a private matter that it wouldn't warrant discussion, but it's not private, it's quite public by her own admission.
And it's been a good on-topic place to discuss similar stuff than impacts us all. Housing, rent vs buy, finances, labs and spaces, storage etc.

I like when she goes back to what drew me to her channel in the first place; teardowns and demonstrations of obscure and obsolete electronics. The UFO nonsense, complaints about how life isn't how she wants it to be, linking old film instead of making content, are things that make me skip videos and look for other channels.

The same applies to any channel really; add new content style by all means, but drop original stuff at your peril, since it's what brought people there in the first place.

[pcprogrammer]

be thankful for the space you have, others have less.  that feel the need to stay in one place.
New York City dog box 80 by 150 with a shared bathroom for $650 a month.   

It's all about choices. A person could easily find somewhere else to live if having space was worth more than being in that particular location. Personally I can't see why someone would want to live in NYC at all, much less at the cost of doing so.

It sure is. And one can think up many reasons for wanting to live in a big town and the same applies to wanting to live out in the sticks. Throughout my life I moved further away from cities, because I seek the tranquility of the country life. Can't stand the noise and crowds in cities. With the wife away, for shopping I pick the quietest time of the week, which is wednesday around 12:00 over here. Will be very happy when she returns in a couple of weeks and takes over this task again. 

And the space in that video, no room for any of my hobbies. You would have to use the TV as a monitor for your computer. 

[EEVblog]

I like when she goes back to what drew me to her channel in the first place; teardowns and demonstrations of obscure and obsolete electronics. The UFO nonsense, complaints about how life isn't how she wants it to be, linking old film instead of making content, are things that make me skip videos and look for other channels.

I do like the old film stuff occasionally, but I do have to wonder if it's damaging her channel. The numbers clearly aren't there, under 3k views fro almost every of those film videos. And they are being copyright stuck repeatedly, whcih means no monestisation, which means your channel doesn't prioritised.

[AVGresponding]

I like when she goes back to what drew me to her channel in the first place; teardowns and demonstrations of obscure and obsolete electronics. The UFO nonsense, complaints about how life isn't how she wants it to be, linking old film instead of making content, are things that make me skip videos and look for other channels.

I do like the old film stuff occasionally, but I do have to wonder if it's damaging her channel. The numbers clearly aren't there, under 3k views fro almost every of those film videos. And they are being copyright stuck repeatedly, whcih means no monestisation, which means your channel doesn't prioritised.

Far better to just link to a site that does have permission to show them. I was interested in them initially, but kept losing audio (presumably due to the copyright issue). Consequently I never add them to my "watch later" list any more.

[EEVblog]

Far better to just link to a site that does have permission to show them. I was interested in them initially, but kept losing audio (presumably due to the copyright issue). Consequently I never add them to my "watch later" list any more.

I'd put them on a 2nd dedicated channel as a test and see if anything improves.
Fran refuses to use Odysee or any other alternative platform though, I have not been able to convince her to do this.

[SiliconWizard]

Fran refuses to use Odysee or any other alternative platform though, I have not been able to convince her to do this.

Has she provided any rationale for this?

[EEVblog]

Fran refuses to use Odysee or any other alternative platform though, I have not been able to convince her to do this.

Has she provided any rationale for this?

Fear of abuse on those platforms. Shame, I made a lot of money being an early adopter on LBRY/Odysee, I'm sure that would have helped her out.

[rsjsouza]

Fran refuses to use Odysee or any other alternative platform though, I have not been able to convince her to do this.

Has she provided any rationale for this?

Fear of abuse on those platforms. Shame, I made a lot of money being an early adopter on LBRY/Odysee, I'm sure that would have helped her out.

It strikes me as ludicrous how can someone fear "abuse" with comments on a platform.

Even so, if abuse is your fear, youtube is not any different: a few years ago I commented exactly this in one of her videos (diversify in other platforms such as Odysee) only to be shut down, dissed and cussed by other commenters.

She indeed fell hook, line and sinker on the propaganda against the "Alt-Youtube". Too bad.

[magic]

I come from the software industry and nothing here surprises me because I have seen it all and then much worse.
She's dealing with a lifetime of grave personal problems and everyone ignoring this needs to get off his progressive kool-aid.

(I hope this comment is not too out of line for what appears to be the official unsolicited advice thread )


Oh, and before I forget, death to America, of course.
This ride has only been getting crazier in recent years and take my word, it hasn't even reached the peak yet.
Something you would know if you cared to listen, or had it shouted at you all the time.

[nctnico]

Fran refuses to use Odysee or any other alternative platform though, I have not been able to convince her to do this.

Has she provided any rationale for this?

Fear of abuse on those platforms. Shame, I made a lot of money being an early adopter on LBRY/Odysee, I'm sure that would have helped her out.

But you are good at those kind of things. Not everybody is. One of my relatives has a bit of a specialist job and she often complains others are not good at it and no use helping her out. To her the job seems easy but it actually is quite complicated.

[SiliconWizard]

Fran refuses to use Odysee or any other alternative platform though, I have not been able to convince her to do this.

Has she provided any rationale for this?

Fear of abuse on those platforms.

Well, what can we say. Nothing I guess. It seems to be one of her key deciding factors, be it for online platforms or for where she lives, and it sure is cutting her off from a lot of opportunities.

I don't know how justified those fears are. But as to online platforms, there's something slightly ironical about complaining about censorship yet appreciating the relative comfort this censorship provides.
You can't have it all.

Shame, I made a lot of money being an early adopter on LBRY/Odysee, I'm sure that would have helped her out.

I don't doubt that. Diversifying is always a good move anyway.

[EEVblog]

It strikes me as ludicrous how can someone fear "abuse" with comments on a platform.

Unless you are a creator, you don't understand. We get so much hate, even death threats.
I does take a special kind of person to be able to ignore this onslaught literally daily. This is why so many Youtube creater have to either quit or they take a break for "mental wellbeing".

Even so, if abuse is your fear, youtube is not any different: a few years ago I commented exactly this in one of her videos (diversify in other platforms such as Odysee) only to be shut down, dissed and cussed by other commenters.

Correct, Youtube is no different, in fact it's worse given the volume. Fran admitted she had to delete a ton of comment every day. She then got some mods to help her out, but I think now she's back to doing it herself. Odysee is actually a safer platform because of the "slime" feature. If enough people "slime" (thumbs down) a comment then they get hidden to the creator so you don't accidently see them. You can specifically click on then to see them. But I couldn't convince Fran of this benefit.

[EEVblog]

I come from the software industry and nothing here surprises me because I have seen it all and then much worse.
She's dealing with a lifetime of grave personal problems and everyone ignoring this needs to get off his progressive kool-aid.
(I hope this comment is not too out of line for what appears to be the official unsolicited advice thread )

Sure, understandable, but unfortunately you don't get ahead in life and improve your situation by dwelling on this and making it your focus. It's basic life advice and success stuff when it comes down to it, you improve your life and succeed by taking active measures to improve your sitation and help yourself long term.

Right now I'm staring at a listing for a 70sqm office that's relatively cheap in the building that has my bunker. These places rarely come up and I'm deciding if I should take a gamble and buy it which could potentially benefit me in the future. e.g. if I decide to expand again with another employee or whatever. 
EDIT: Bugger it, I'm off to poke my head in the window now...

[james_s]

Unless you are a creator, you don't understand. We get so much hate, even death threats.
I does take a special kind of person to be able to ignore this onslaught literally daily. This is why so many Youtube creater have to either quit or they take a break for "mental wellbeing".

The death threats are strange to me, I could almost understand it (not excuse it) if the content were highly controversial, but for technical stuff? That's just crazy. Must be a lot of mentally unwell people out there in the world and it only takes a few.

[rsjsouza]

It strikes me as ludicrous how can someone fear "abuse" with comments on a platform.

Unless you are a creator, you don't understand. We get so much hate, even death threats.
I does take a special kind of person to be able to ignore this onslaught literally daily. This is why so many Youtube creater have to either quit or they take a break for "mental wellbeing".

I am a creator (albeit small) and had my share of this.

[EEVblog]

Shame, I made a lot of money being an early adopter on LBRY/Odysee, I'm sure that would have helped her out.

I don't doubt that. Diversifying is always a good move anyway.

Not exaggerating when I say 5 minutes work 4 years ago could have possibly netted her 10's of thousands of dollars and a large audience on an alternative platform.

[rsjsouza]

Unless you are a creator, you don't understand. We get so much hate, even death threats.
I does take a special kind of person to be able to ignore this onslaught literally daily. This is why so many Youtube creater have to either quit or they take a break for "mental wellbeing".

The death threats are strange to me, I could almost understand it (not excuse it) if the content were highly controversial, but for technical stuff? That's just crazy. Must be a lot of mentally unwell people out there in the world and it only takes a few.

It is cheap to make such threats cloaked by the anonymous nature of internet - that tends to bring to the surface the fallen nature of mankind.