Working From Home - Impacts of Coronavirus

[tszaboo]

It would be reassuring to know that billions are being spent on developing a vaccine!

Problem is that money only goes so far to "speed up the process."

Because of approvals and trials, it could take 18 months or more to get a vaccine. This is not your seasonal flu, where everything is already done and you just need to press start on the vaccine making machine.

[SilverSolder]

It would be reassuring to know that billions are being spent on developing a vaccine!

Problem is that money only goes so far to "speed up the process."

Because of approvals and trials, it could take 18 months or more to get a vaccine. This is not your seasonal flu, where everything is already done and you just need to press start on the vaccine making machine.

With the whole world melting down, we might see a little more urgency than usual with the approvals/trials...

[tszaboo]

It would be reassuring to know that billions are being spent on developing a vaccine!

Problem is that money only goes so far to "speed up the process."

Because of approvals and trials, it could take 18 months or more to get a vaccine. This is not your seasonal flu, where everything is already done and you just need to press start on the vaccine making machine.

With the whole world melting down, we might see a little more urgency than usual with the approvals/trials...

Its not that simple. Bad vaccine can make the already bad illness worse.
I'm quite sure they are taking all the measures possible.
If it really has 1% mortality rate, and 60-80% of the population will get it (simulation shows, Germany and UK data) then this could kill millions of people.

[Nusa]

With the whole world melting down, we might see a little more urgency than usual with the approvals/trials...

It is urgent, that is not in question. But the normal development time for a vaccine is 2-5 years, so even urgent development is going to take longer than people expect. This isn't a TV show after all.

[PeurUCam]

Since so many people have been deliberately scared to stay home I've noticed much less cars in heavy traffic.

[Stray Electron]

  Not here. I went out today and just drove around and it's very nearly normal traffic conditions. It looks like a lot of people that are out of work or out of school are using this as an opportunity to go shopping or visiting or whatever.  Oh and I went by two large grocery stores and the parking lots there looked pretty full. No lines that I can see but there are many people in the stores.

   If the US wants people to quarantine, it's going to have to be mandatory and enforced.

[EEVblog]

Our PM came out today and said categorically that they are not going to close the schools. Barring any drastic escalation I guess, but they didn't even hint at that. The TLDR was that schools must stay open at all costs.

[Psi]

Probably due to the knock on effect of all the parents having to stay home to look after them if they're sent home

[EEVblog]

Probably due to the knock on effect of all the parents having to stay home to look after them if they're sent home

Yes, of course, that was my first point in the first post of this thread.
And grandparent can't look after them because they are the most vulnerable group.

[Muttley Snickers]

Probably due to the knock on effect of all the parents having to stay home to look after them if they're sent home

I think that any school closure really should be a last resort as it would have a direct impact on so many others and not just the parents or other carers. I live opposite a primary school and there is a constant convey of service and supply vehicles throughout the day in addition to the cleaners every night as well. 

[bd139]

Well I’ve got mild symptoms (cough, sore throat etc). So I’ve taken the kids out of school as per guidelines.

Apparently they have been threatening to fine people in some areas for this.

[coppice]

Well I’ve got mild symptoms (cough, sore throat etc). So I’ve taken the kids out of school as per guidelines.

Apparently they have been threatening to fine people in some areas for this.

Which law have they transgressed?

[bd139]

A combination of the vague specification of an education in the Education Act 1996 and the overbearing ability for our local councils and schools to be absolute complete cuntsocks because they are run by little Hitlers.

The answer will be "see you in court, probably in about a decade"

[Zucca]

Apparently they have been threatening to fine people in some areas for this.

rant mode.

I was 14 days in home office because I was in Italy. Today is my second day at work.
My department manager (not my direct boss, the one above) forced my presence at work. He is an idiot, a big one. My direct boss keep saying "I am sorry, could do nothing about this", I am beyond pissed off, like all the other colleagues in my team.
I am washing my hands like crazy and avoid people like opposite magnet poles. I go work using my bike, forget about public transportation.

Some germans colleagues are scared of me, which is good for me and for them. They keep the safety distance from me with just a bad look of mine.

What infuriate me more is seeing people in close circles in the city and at work,  laughing like nothing is happening.
As soon I am done at work I go home as fast as I can on my bike.

More than 200 italians are dying every day, what we need more to understand this is not a joke?

I am tempted to tell my company I am sick with temperature, but fu%& I am not a dishonest guy.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[coppice]

I am washing my hands like crazy and avoid the people like opposite magnet poles.

This is where Britain is ahead of things. We avoid people under ALL circumstances.

That may seem like a joke, but its not entirely. A lot of Americans get really uncomfortable in many Asian cities, because people are content to be much closer together than most Americans are used to. These cultural differences can have a big effect in times like now. The key reason Beijing was a really big city long before anything in Europe was they had a culture of personal cleanliness, long before they understood the medical value of cleanliness.

[PeurUCam]

  Not here. I went out today and just drove around and it's very nearly normal traffic conditions. It looks like a lot of people that are out of work or out of school are using this as an opportunity to go shopping or visiting or whatever.  Oh and I went by two large grocery stores and the parking lots there looked pretty full. No lines that I can see but there are many people in the stores.

   If the US wants people to quarantine, it's going to have to be mandatory and enforced.

Stray, thank you. I did notice again today. Even during rush hours there was much less traffic. It's clearly a case of many people staying home.

[Mr. Scram]

rant mode.

I was 14 days in home office because I was in Italy. Today is my second day at work.
My department manager (not my direct boss, the one above) forced my presence at work. He is an idiot, a big one. My direct boss keep saying "I am sorry, could do nothing about this", I am beyond pissed off, like all the other colleagues in my team.
I am washing my hands like crazy and avoid people like opposite magnet poles. I go work using my bike, forget about public transportation.

Some germans colleagues are scared of me, which is good for me and for them. They keep the safety distance from me with just a bad look of mine.

What infuriate me more is seeing people in close circles in the city and at work,  laughing like nothing is happening.
As soon I am done at work I go home as fast as I can on my bike.

More than 200 italians are dying every day, what we need more to understand this is not a joke?

I am tempted to tell my company I am sick with temperature, but fu%& I am not a dishonest guy.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Where is this? Depending on the circumstances you could just get up and leave. Don't let authority trick you into something you consider unreasonable. Don't depend on other people's motives.

[Mr. Scram]

Well I’ve got mild symptoms (cough, sore throat etc). So I’ve taken the kids out of school as per guidelines.

Apparently they have been threatening to fine people in some areas for this.

They're fining people for keeping children in school or taking them out?

[rdl]

I just got back from weekly grocery shopping. I was really surprised. I would estimate only 10-15% of store-able food remains. I've been through floods, hurricanes, winter storms that shut down the Interstates for days, but nothing like this. I don't know where people are putting all of it. I spent maybe 50% more than normal on extra stuff like canned goods and pasta, but if things don't improve I will likely starve before any virus gets me.

[ivaylo]

Yes, everyone around you acting irrationally is super depressing (imagining everybody in their rooms with a pile of toilet paper in the middle). And this of course - https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-coronavirus-gun-purchases-ammo-20200318-emc53brliragvofwa4ydowij3a-story.html

[james_s]

We've been shopping several times in the past few days to stock up on the normal stuff, no hoarding here but we did get an extra box of snack bars. The stores are crowded and as everyone has said, the toilet paper and tissues were sold out but it hasn't been any problem getting food so far.

I'm afraid I'll never understand the toilet paper thing, of all the things I could hoard, food, beverages, medications, cleaning supplies, ammo (if I lived somewhere I could hunt game if needed), firewood, camp stove fuel, gasoline, etc TP would probably fall to the bottom of that list. As long as I've got running water I simply don't need it, it's a convenience item.

[mzzj]

Our PM came out today and said categorically that they are not going to close the schools. Barring any drastic escalation I guess, but they didn't even hint at that. The TLDR was that schools must stay open at all costs.

Took about 4 days in here from "schools will remain open" to  --> martial law, closing schools and 50% of parents pulling their kids out of kindergarden. 

[Electro Detective]

School's OUT !!!!!!    

[tom66]

Been working from home this week with a cough - without testing there is no way to be sure that this is "just" a cough and not something more serious.

[Zero999]

I can't work from home, so I'm off sick with a cough. It started out quite mild at the weekend, but I came to work Monday to Wednesday, then people told me I should not come in today. The cough has gotten worse though and I didn't sleep well last night, although I don't feel unwell enough to be off sick. I might go for a cycle ride this afternoon, if it doesn't rain of course.