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Will going through undergraduate textbooks allow me to design my devices? That is assuming I learn from them.

Can an electronics undergraduate design something like a Wave Bubble?
 

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Please stop asking questions[1] that would lead to people making illegal and dangerous devices.

Dangerous because they might prevent other people getting help in critical situations.

In addition, if someone caught you using one, they might crack your skull - but that wouldn't cause me to lose any sleep.

[1] e.g. https://www.eevblog.com/forum/rf-microwave/are-there-any-online-resources-available-to-make-my-own-signal-jammer/msg3160220/#msg3160220
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Please stop asking questions[1] that would lead to people making illegal and dangerous devices.

Dangerous because they might prevent other people getting help in critical situations.

In addition, if someone caught you using one, they might crack your skull - but that wouldn't cause me to lose any sleep.

[1] e.g. https://www.eevblog.com/forum/rf-microwave/are-there-any-online-resources-available-to-make-my-own-signal-jammer/msg3160220/#msg3160220

Is that a veiled threat or lack of faith in my ability to defend myself.

Why is there always a presumption that I wouldn't use it ethically?

Anyway what I asked here is different I'm asking if an undergraduate be able to build a device like Wave Bubble? Or do they have to have the knowledge of graduate or post graduate?
 

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Will going through undergraduate textbooks allow me to design my devices?
I'm going to say "no."Things may have changed since I went to college (class of 1981), but my EE degree was very long on theory (calculus, physics, digital logic, semiconductors, measurements, analysis, etc) and awfully weak on the practicalities of actually building anything.Going through the textbooks will probably allow you to understand, in principle, how "your devices" work, and next to nothing about how to find a power transistor capable of amplifying a RF signal of the frequency and magnitude necessary to build a high power transmitter.
 
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Why is there always a presumption that I wouldn't use it ethically?

Because you give no indication that you have either the knowledge or intention to use it ethically. Usually people asking such questions are up to mischief, or worse. So that's the way to bet.

In addition, sooner or later another reader might come along and think "oooh, kewl, i'll do that" - and hurt a bystander. Thus I wouldn't post how to make explosives, nor how to use "naked" laser chips.

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Anyway what I asked here is different I'm asking if an undergraduate be able to build a device like Wave Bubble? Or do they have to have the knowledge of graduate or post graduate?

Who cares what the answer might be?

What will you do differently depending on the answer?
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Why would you even need to ask how to build that "Wave Bubble"-device? The detailed instructions are right in the first search result...
So I guess if you can't comprehend them, you're neither able to design or build such a device.
Also, name me one legal and ethical use of a signal jammer outside of a proper shielded chamber.
 
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Absolutely. Read all the undergrad textbooks. Then read them a second time. Better read them a third , fourth and fifth time to make sure. Maybe even a sixt, seventh and eighth time too.
Then find some more undergrad books. read those too. at least 10 more times, then switch back to the first batch and do that a few more times. Keep repeating

that'll keep him busy ..
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Absolutely. Read all the undergrad textbooks. Then read them a second time. Better read them a third , fourth and fifth time to make sure. Maybe even a sixt, seventh and eighth time too.
Then find some more undergrad books. read those too. at least 10 more times, then switch back to the first batch and do that a few more times. Keep repeating

that'll keep him busy ..

Reading is insufficient. It is also necessary to test and pass the test, to ensure the words and concepts have been understood. Repeated tests are permitted, provided there is no self-deception :)
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Why would you even need to ask how to build that "Wave Bubble"-device? The detailed instructions are right in the first search result...
So I guess if you can't comprehend them, you're neither able to design or build such a device.
Also, name me one legal and ethical use of a signal jammer outside of a proper shielded chamber.

There are no detailed instructions on the Wave Bubble's page, and it requires parts which are no longer sold and some are hard to procure.

Jamming an unwanted implant is one legal and ethical use of a signal jammer out of a proper shielded chamber.
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Will going through undergraduate textbooks allow me to design my devices?
I'm going to say "no."Things may have changed since I went to college (class of 1981), but my EE degree was very long on theory (calculus, physics, digital logic, semiconductors, measurements, analysis, etc) and awfully weak on the practicalities of actually building anything.Going through the textbooks will probably allow you to understand, in principle, how "your devices" work, and next to nothing about how to find a power transistor capable of amplifying a RF signal of the frequency and magnitude necessary to build a high power transmitter.

So I have to read graduate and post-graduate books to actually build something useful?
 

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Because you give no indication that you have either the knowledge or intention to use it ethically. Usually people asking such questions are up to mischief, or worse. So that's the way to bet.

I haven't given any indication that I was going to use it unethicaly as well, why did you assume the opposite?

In addition, sooner or later another reader might come along and think "oooh, kewl, i'll do that" - and hurt a bystander. Thus I wouldn't post how to make explosives, nor how to use "naked" laser chips.

Who cares what the answer might be?

What will you do differently depending on the answer?

There are so many offensive techniques taught as self-defence, which are freely available on YouTube, you don't see them hiding those things fearing someone might use them to hurt someone. Your concern is misplaced.

If I knew that reading undergraduate textbooks would allow me to construct something like that I will study them.
 

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Why would you even need to ask how to build that "Wave Bubble"-device? The detailed instructions are right in the first search result...
So I guess if you can't comprehend them, you're neither able to design or build such a device.
Also, name me one legal and ethical use of a signal jammer outside of a proper shielded chamber.

There are no detailed instructions on the Wave Bubble's page, and it requires parts which are no longer sold and some are hard to procure.

Jamming an illegal implant is one legal and ethical use of a signal jammer out of a proper shielded chamber.

What is "an illegal implant"? Examples please.
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Will going through undergraduate textbooks allow me to design my devices?
I'm going to say "no."Things may have changed since I went to college (class of 1981), but my EE degree was very long on theory (calculus, physics, digital logic, semiconductors, measurements, analysis, etc) and awfully weak on the practicalities of actually building anything.Going through the textbooks will probably allow you to understand, in principle, how "your devices" work, and next to nothing about how to find a power transistor capable of amplifying a RF signal of the frequency and magnitude necessary to build a high power transmitter.

So I have to read graduate and post-graduate books to actually build something useful?


Because you give no indication that you have either the knowledge or intention to use it ethically. Usually people asking such questions are up to mischief, or worse. So that's the way to bet.

I haven't given any indication that I was going to use it unethicaly as well, why did you assume the opposite?

In addition, sooner or later another reader might come along and think "oooh, kewl, i'll do that" - and hurt a bystander. Thus I wouldn't post how to make explosives, nor how to use "naked" laser chips.

Who cares what the answer might be?

What will you do differently depending on the answer?

There are so many offensive techniques taught as self-defence, which are freely available on YouTube, you don't see them hiding those things fearing someone might use them to hurt someone. Your concern is misplaced.

If I knew that reading undergraduate textbooks would allow me to construct something like that I will study them.

OK, you are just here to troll, rather than address the substantive points.

End of conversation.
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What is "an illegal implant"? Examples please.

I modified my comment to say unwanted implant.

 

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OK, you are just here to troll, rather than address the substantive points.

End of conversation.

No. I'm here to ask for information. You are the one here trolling by pretending to be concerned about unethical use of a signal jammer.
 

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What is "an illegal implant"? Examples please.

I modified my comment to say unwanted implant.

Same question: What is "an unwanted implant"? Examples please.
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Jamming an unwanted implant is one legal and ethical use of a signal jammer out of a proper shielded chamber.

While I have no idea how you've gotten an "unwanted" implant, operating a signal jammer outside of a controlled environment is still both illegal and unethical. You might want to consult with your psychiatrist about that implant...
 
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Same question: What is "an unwanted implant"? Examples please.

Like an implant in an ear or throat which brainwashes and send information about neural impulses sent to the vocal cords.

You are just trolling. I'm going to ignore you.
 

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While I have no idea how you've gotten an "unwanted" implant, operating a signal jammer outside of a controlled environment is still both illegal and unethical. You might want to consult with your psychiatrist about that implant...

For someone who can't put in effort to think how one could an unwanted implant you are confident enough to give stupid and irrational suggestions.

When I'm asleep, I could be drugged and anesthetized and an implant could be placed inside my body, that would be an unwanted implant. I don't want to consult a psychiatrists because that would compromise my mental integrity. It could also be possible, something might be added in my food or drinks to make me lose conscious, which would allow them to anesthetize me.

If you can't add anything helpful, just shut up.
 

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Same question: What is "an unwanted implant"? Examples please.

Like an implant in an ear or throat which brainwashes and send information about neural impulses sent to the vocal cords.

You are just trolling. I'm going to ignore you.

You need professional help. Please consult your doctor..
 
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An example of delusional thinking, then, might be a patient thinking that the CIA has secretly implanted a computer chip in his or her brain. Although the delusional patient can have a head x-ray or magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) that would prove that there is no chip, he would continue to insist and react to the notion that a chip is implanted, and that the head imaging must have been wrong, or even that the chip might have been invisible to MRI detection.

http://www.nathanlavidmd.com/psychiatric_descriptions/schizophrenia.html
 
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An example of delusional thinking, then, might be a patient thinking that the CIA has secretly implanted a computer chip in his or her brain. Although the delusional patient can have a head x-ray or magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) that would prove that there is no chip, he would continue to insist and react to the notion that a chip is implanted, and that the head imaging must have been wrong, or even that the chip might have been invisible to MRI detection.

http://www.nathanlavidmd.com/psychiatric_descriptions/schizophrenia.html

I didn't claim there is an implant in my brain. I said ear or throat. Besides when 3 letter agencies have implanted something in someone, they would be monitoring that individuals every move, they might bribe the doctors and staff to show fabricated x-ray and MRI scan to deceive that there isn't any implant. You are trolling here, you are part of MI6 or MI5 moles here to spread disinformation. Psychiatry is a stupid profession, a person most valuable possession is their ability to reason, psychiatry exists to turn people into puppets and slaves. You should try the electroshock therapy sometime.

I would also like to mention that if there is an implant in body, going through an MRI scan would either disable the implant or pull the implant out. So if a person claims the MRI isn't showing the implant, it's probably because it was sucked out. That is assuming the MRI was working as it should and the technician didn't just do a test of it's part moving.
 

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An example of delusional thinking, then, might be a patient thinking that the CIA has secretly implanted a computer chip in his or her brain. Although the delusional patient can have a head x-ray or magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) that would prove that there is no chip, he would continue to insist and react to the notion that a chip is implanted, and that the head imaging must have been wrong, or even that the chip might have been invisible to MRI detection.

http://www.nathanlavidmd.com/psychiatric_descriptions/schizophrenia.html

The very reason that the quote doesn't consider the possibility of x-ray or scan information being fabricated proves that you are spreading disinformation and psychiatry is a stupid profession existing only to turn people into puppets and slaves. The patient who is intelligent enough to argue that the imaging must be wrong or the implant was invisible, would have also been able to argue that the x-ray or scan information might have been fabricated, the fact that such a counter argument from the patient hasn't been mentioned or presented as it wasn't made is really the most conclusive proof of the psychiatric professions subversive motives.
 

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Psychiatry is a stupid profession, a person most valuable possession is their ability to reason, psychiatry exists to turn people into puppets and slaves. You should try the electroshock therapy sometime.
Thank you for offending a great group of people.

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I would also like to mention that if there is an implant in body, going through an MRI scan would either disable the implant or pull the implant out. So if a person claims the MRI isn't showing the implant, it's probably because it was sucked out. That is assuming the MRI was working as it should and the technician didn't just do a test of it's part moving.
A disabled piece of circuit will still be visible on an MRI scan. and if it would be pulled out (which most probably won't happen as the most part of many circuits aren't magnetic, especially if they are done to be implanted into some tissue) you would notice that. And you should be happy, because your problem would be solved, wouldn't it?
Those sound like two very good points to get a MRI scan - you can only win. go on.

As a side note - I also have an implant, but in my hand. No, not a piercing or something do decorate my body. I'm talking about a circuit that is able to send out and receive data. I even have photos where that was done.
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Thank you for offending a great group of people.

Psychiatrists are great group of people, really?

A disabled piece of circuit will still be visible on an MRI scan. and if it would be pulled out (which most probably won't happen as the most part of many circuits aren't magnetic, especially if they are done to be implanted into some tissue) you would notice that. And you should be happy, because your problem would be solved, wouldn't it?
Those sound like two very good points to get a MRI scan - you can only win. go on.

As a side note - I also have an implant, but in my hand. No, not a piercing or something do decorate my body. I'm talking about a circuit that is able to send out and receive data. I even have photos where that was done.

Yes, MRI(assuming it works as it should) seems like a good thing to disable my implant. Almost all parts of circuits can become magnetic when current flows through them but their magnetic power isn't that much. With the knowledge you are showing, I'm surprised you actually considered the possibility of it getting pulled out. I should be worried about that risk nevertheless, if it got pulled out of my ear region or throat region, I don't know what kind of damage it might cause.

Can you show photos of your implant? What kind of circuitry is it, how is it powered, how does it receive data and what frequencies does it use?
 


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