Just want to mention that the CNC lathes sale has 4 hours to go, and as soon as it ends all the online photos will vanish. If you haven't scrolled through the 4 pages of heavy machinery porn, I'd suggest doing so now. Have a box of tissues handy.
Also, some of the machines are still sitting at under $10, some even no bids. If you wanted a few tons of computerized behemoth, take a look. Be aware there's still the "removal fee" which is a few thousand dollars, plus freight costs. So don't bid casually. Oh, and registration to bid takes a while, verifications via SMS, etc.
URL:
http://tigerassetgroup.com/sales/dsi1/Scroll down to and click on "SALE 2. Closes 12pm (AEDT) 12th October. 85+ CNC Lathes"
Not saying which one I want, but it's well on it's way to a thousand dollars and will likely go over. (Plus $2200 removal fee.) Most of the appealing ones are already bid to several thousand, out of my range.
Not fussed, as I found out these don't actually have some of the machining capabilities I need. So now it's mostly just 'learning CNC', aka boy toy purchase, aka get this AND a big old manual lathe. Which I really shouldn't.
Edit: Btw to navigate that Pickles listing, choose sort by: lot number. And use "< Back to results" to return to where you were in the listing. Browser 'back' takes you back to page 1.
Edit 2. A few more traps for CNC nubies have come to light. Talking with an Okuma rep:
Q: With a machine that has no tool position calibrator arm, can that arm be retrofitted?
A: Basically no. The software in each machine is custom to that machine. So if there's no arm,
the software won't have that facility. After adding the arm, would also have to ask Okuma for
a new software build. Software comes on floppy disks, several disks per set. Very high cost.
Code is not human-readable script, just binary blob.
Q: So that applies to gantry loader integration too? You really can't just remove a gantry and tell
the machine to ignore the absense?
A: Correct. A customer recently had that situation. Bought a machine with a gantry loader, and
wanted to run the machine without it. Cost of new software was $7.5K.
Q: What is the code held in?
A: Flash memory. There's also battery backed memory for machine state, etc.
Oh, and I'd previously been told that full schematics are available. But people at the factory (and from looking at actual manuals) say that is not correct. There are cabinet wiring diagrams, but no PCB schematics available. So a fault in something like a spindle variable frequency drive, costs several thousand for repair by manufacturer, or replacement.
Edit 3:
Final prices for the five Okuma Spaceturn LB250T CNC lathes.
All with additional $2200 removal fee, plus auctioneer's percentage, plus buyer's transport cost. That guy in WA...
149 E.H. Winthrop WA $3,550
150 V.V. Matraville NSW $5,050
151 E.H. Winthrop WA $4,450
152 S.T. dandenong south VIC $3,050 (I bid, my max $1350 for this machine with a major flaw.)
153 P.M. dandenong south VIC $2,800 (Was going to bid on this. It looks bad, but only superficial. It went over my limit quickly.)
I think a lot of the larger machines didn't sell. According to people at the site on Monday, there will be a second auction of the dregs.
Since I have to go down there again to fetch the big UPS, I thought I'd buy something fun. Lot 605, a freestanding cubicle containing a small assembly line. Cubicle made of nice T-slot section, lots of pneumatics, controllers, two huge pneumatic actuator cylinders, etc. Would have been cool.
Unfortunately there's sometimes that one stubborn guy who won't accept being outbid. (Not me!) Combined with the Pickles deadline extension by 9 minutes every time someone bids, it makes for a frustrating waste of time.
After sitting there incremental bidding for about 20 minutes I quit when the value for money died.
"N.W. of Footscray", you suck.
N.W. Footscray VIC 12/10/2017 04:19PM $420
G.D. East Hills NSW 12/10/2017 04:19PM $410
N.W. Footscray VIC 12/10/2017 04:19PM $410
G.D. East Hills NSW 12/10/2017 04:14PM $400
N.W. Footscray VIC 12/10/2017 04:14PM $390
G.D. East Hills NSW 12/10/2017 04:14PM $380
N.W. Footscray VIC 12/10/2017 04:14PM $380
G.D. East Hills NSW 12/10/2017 04:09PM $370
N.W. Footscray VIC 12/10/2017 04:09PM $370
G.D. East Hills NSW 12/10/2017 04:03PM $360
N.W. Footscray VIC 12/10/2017 04:03PM $360
G.D. East Hills NSW 12/10/2017 03:57PM $350
N.W. Footscray VIC 12/10/2017 03:56PM $340
G.D. East Hills NSW 12/10/2017 03:53PM $310
N.W. Footscray VIC 12/10/2017 03:53PM $300
G.D. East Hills NSW 12/10/2017 03:44PM $130
N.W. Footscray VIC 12/10/2017 03:37PM $110
S.S. NORTH ALBURY NSW 12/10/2017 01:11PM $54
N.W. Footscray VIC 12/10/2017 01:11PM $53
S.S. NORTH ALBURY NSW 11/10/2017 10:54PM $52
P.B. baranduda VIC 11/10/2017 10:53PM $5
S.S. NORTH ALBURY NSW 11/10/2017 10:53PM $4
P.B. baranduda VIC 11/10/2017 10:53PM $3
S.S. NORTH ALBURY NSW 11/10/2017 10:53PM $2
Well, it's all good. Means I have more money free still to buy a big old lathe that can actually do what I want. And very amusingly... (story for later)
That auction cost me a grand total of $2.16. And I got a huge 3phase UPS, that I've been seeking for ages.
Now I need to shake this cold I have.
Edit #4. I'm informed by email from Pickles that both things I bid on but didn't win (Lot 152 the CNC LB250T lathe with no tool position calibration arm, and Lot 605 Assembly machine cubicle) were 'passed in' and "may be listed again in the near future."
Ha ha ha! So, they set themselves greedy, hidden price targets, and probably a lot of things failed to reach them. Presumably I only received notifications for lots I had bid on. I wonder what proportion of sales failed?
I hope most of them. Reality 2x4.