Sorry be posting 3 comments in a row but enough nonsense has been perpetrated here about conduction current being the only way that energy can move from A to B in space. Here is a very simple experiment measuring displacement current as equal to the conduction current but there are NO electrons moving across any gaps whatsoever:
Interesting.
1. I see that the induced wave on the left of the capacitor was stronger than on the right of the capacitor.
2. And i suppose that if he removed the right half of the capacitor including its wire connection then he would have gotten an even stronger wave on the left part of the circuit (stronger than with the right side in place).
3. Here (1) & (2) support my new (elekton) elekticity.
4. The electricity on the rhs of the capacitor is an (induced) electron electricity.
5. On the lhs its an elekton elekticity.
6. Tween the plates there is no electricity, no current, there is a radio signal, ie em radiation, which induces an electron electric current on the rhs. [/quote]
And i suppose that if he removed the right half of the capacitor including its wire connection then he would have gotten an even stronger wave on the left part of the circuit (stronger than with the right side in place).
Easy to suppose, but unless you can show that then "Here (1) & (2) support my new (elekton) elekticity" is just building on quicksand.
Hell, we can all do that. I suppose that if he removed the right side the left side would have doubled. No, tripled! Now just let me make up a theory to account for that...
Not so fast. We already have some data. The lhs was stronger than the rhs.
How does old electron electricity explain that?
How was there more change (in current) on the lhs?
Yes, I saw that. What I'm disputing is that you can extrapolate and say you would see anything with the right side missing. Maybe you would, but that wasn't shown and we can't tell from the experiment.
Yes. And i said that my new (elekton) elekticity could explain. But that old (electron) electricity couldn’t explain. But praps old (electron) electricity can explain. Lemmeseenow.
Old (electron) electricity would have to say that there is electric energy lost in the air gap, whilst the electric energy was going from left to right.
Which raises a question – is the AC energy going from left to right? I reckon that it is.
If the AC energy is alternating & coming from the left & then from the right etc then i can't say that energy is lost in the air gap – koz if alternating then the signal would have the same strength on lhs & rhs.
[I doubt that electrodacus is correct that the energy loss across the air gap is due to a problem with scope grounding.]
Anyhow, old (electron) electricity might be correct if it says that energy is flowing from left to right & if it says that much energy is lost in the air gap (or including the plates too).
The em radiation around a wire has intrinsic energy (which can be called Poynting Field energy if u like) in the non-transient electricity case, & the em radiation (Poynting Field if u like) transmits energy from the wire in the transient case.
All of this energy has come from or is coming from the source (eg battery). Via wires (via elektons & electrons).
Old (electron) electricity (i reckon) demands an energy loss in the air gap.
My new (elekton) elekticity duznt need an energy loss, it just needs an inefficient energy transmission across the air gap. This inefficient process involves elektons on one plate (lhs) inducing an electron voltage on the other plate (rhs).
In old (electron) electricity the process would involve electrons (mainly surface electrons i reckon)(not so much internal electrons, which old (electron) electricity reckons) on both plates.
A large energy loss in the air gap (including the plates) would demand a rise in temperature, & or some kind of new radiation.
Not forgetting that there is a small energy loss in every inch of every wire all the time anyhow, including gaps.
What everyone around here (cept me) probly duznt know, is that the em radiation around a wire duznt accord with conservation of energy. The field is due to the radiation from elektons & electrons. The radiation from elektons & electrons is perpetual. Standard science has no explanation for this. It duznt have an explanation koz it duznt need an explanation. It duznt need an explanation koz it duznt recognise the question. Aether theory has the answer.
The above duznt apply to transient electricity. Transient electricity involves the em radiation, but it also involves conservation of energy.