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Upcoming New Zealand Space Launch
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Re: Upcoming New Zealand Space Launch
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2017, 05:12:08 am »
http://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/article151784607.html

Welcome to the club!
We're not quite there yet but soon.
Let's hope their first launch is a success and not a kaboom.  :scared:
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Re: Upcoming New Zealand Space Launch
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2017, 07:15:55 am »
Let's hope their first launch is a success and not a kaboom.  :scared:
If they scheduled the launch for new years eve and it all went pear shaped then nobody would know any different, that's what I would do anyway just in case.   :phew:
 
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Re: Upcoming New Zealand Space Launch
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2017, 11:33:01 pm »
just skip any grandstanding and countdowns - when it's ready just launch it.
no point waiting for an earthquake!!  >:D
 

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Re: Upcoming New Zealand Space Launch
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2017, 11:41:41 pm »
What are they sending up a Kiwi?
I told my friends I could teach them to be funny, but they all just laughed at me.
 

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Re: Upcoming New Zealand Space Launch
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2017, 11:44:23 pm »
What are they sending up a Kiwi?

Why would you send fruit to space?
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Re: Upcoming New Zealand Space Launch
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2017, 11:48:57 pm »
What are they sending up a Kiwi?

Why would you send fruit to space?

 Well I wish they would send avocados to space to experiment to find a way to make the seed smaller.
 

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Re: Upcoming New Zealand Space Launch
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2017, 11:52:48 pm »
What are they sending up a Kiwi?
Give a Kiwi wings and there's no holding us back.  :)

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Re: Upcoming New Zealand Space Launch
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2017, 11:53:13 pm »
What are they sending up a Kiwi?

Why would you send fruit to space?

I wouldn't, but a normally flightless bird might like it LOL.
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Re: Upcoming New Zealand Space Launch
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2017, 08:12:39 am »
Oops.    :-// ??? :palm:


 

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Re: Upcoming New Zealand Space Launch
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2017, 09:04:55 am »
Oops.    :-// ??? :palm:


 :-DD

No way would we do that, they might retaliate and fire one back at Australia.

For the love of god, think of the magic dumpsters...
 

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Re: Upcoming New Zealand Space Launch
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2017, 09:09:28 am »
That would be some OOPS!

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Re: Upcoming New Zealand Space Launch
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2017, 10:19:50 am »
If it does go OOPS! , they won't buy any more guidance systems from Shenzhen based Ebayers with low seller scores
and enough negative feedback to build the worlds most stable amplifier  ;D

 
 

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Re: Upcoming New Zealand Space Launch
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2017, 10:32:24 am »
Oops.    :-// ??? :palm:


 :-DD

No way would we do that, they might retaliate and fire one back at Australia.

For the love of god, think of the magic dumpsters...
AFAIK they guidance system is soo advanced, it is a surprise to anyone if they manage to hit the correct sea.
Imagine, NK headquarters:
Annihilate New Zealand! Launch the rockets, all 30 of them.
International press:
North Korea launched a single rocket which went into the sea of Okhotsk, 800 km north from Japan.
NK:
This is a big victory for us!
 

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Re: Upcoming New Zealand Space Launch
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2017, 10:50:27 am »
Oops.    :-// ??? :palm:


 :-DD

No way would we do that, they might retaliate and fire one back at Australia.

For the love of god, think of the magic dumpsters...
AFAIK they guidance system is soo advanced, it is a surprise to anyone if they manage to hit the correct sea.
Imagine, NK headquarters:
Annihilate New Zealand! Launch the rockets, all 30 of them.
International press:
North Korea launched a single rocket which went into the sea of Okhotsk, 800 km north from Japan.
NK:
This is a big victory for us!

Haha, yeah I hope that's correct. Right now I don't think they would have the range either.
I read an article which (speculated) that the northern tip of Australia was just in range.
 

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Re: Upcoming New Zealand Space Launch
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2017, 12:24:26 pm »
I told my friends I could teach them to be funny, but they all just laughed at me.
 

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Re: Upcoming New Zealand Space Launch
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2017, 12:50:52 pm »
you shouldnt make fun of NK, after 60+ years of sanctions and various problems caused by the cia they still managed to build, launch and orbit 2 satellites.
that's more than most country's have done.
maybe it shows that killing corrupt politicans brings results!!!  :-+

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http://journal-neo.org/2017/04/24/just-who-does-pose-the-greater-threat-in-korea/
 

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Re: Upcoming New Zealand Space Launch
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2017, 01:05:09 pm »
you shouldnt make fun of NK, after 60+ years of sanctions and various problems caused by the cia they still managed to build, launch and orbit 2 satellites.
that's more than most country's have done.
maybe it shows that killing corrupt politicans brings results!!!  :-+

read this:
http://journal-neo.org/2017/04/24/just-who-does-pose-the-greater-threat-in-korea/
I think that were just failed rocket testing, which managed to miss the Earth completely.
 

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Re: Upcoming New Zealand Space Launch
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2017, 01:22:50 pm »
well if it came down on Saudi-Arabia or Israel we could forgive them.  >:D
 
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Re: Upcoming New Zealand Space Launch
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2017, 03:02:11 pm »
Of course, if you stick several million people into what's effectively one giant forced labor camp, you're gonna get hard results pretty quickly, as well as the malnutrition, suffering, and torture of all and everybody involved with the exception of kim jong fat over there.
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Re: Upcoming New Zealand Space Launch
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2017, 03:10:01 pm »
Soo, back to launching space ships.
Isnt New Zealand a bad place to actually do this? I mean it requires more energy, isnt it?
 

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Re: Upcoming New Zealand Space Launch
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2017, 05:01:15 pm »
Soo, back to launching space ships.
Isnt New Zealand a bad place to actually do this? I mean it requires more energy, isnt it?

Compared to what?

Yeah, the closer to the equator the lower the energy needed, with the savings in m/s of deltaV proportional to the cosine of the latitude, up to a maximum of about 460 m/s saved (launching on the equator) out of 7800 m/s orbital velocity plus another 1500 - 2000 m/s lost to air resistance.

Northern NZ is 34.5 south, saving 380 m/s
RocketLabs site at Mahia NZ is 39s, saving 357 m/s
Cape Canaveral is 28.5 north, saving 404 m/s
Baikonur is at about 46 north, saving 320 m/s

So Mahia is less than 50 m/s worse than Cape Canaveral, out of a total budget needed of 9500+ m/s. No biggie.

At one time people (mostly the military) cared about getting the maximum possible performance, regardless of the cost. The biggest bomb they could put on a given rocket, or the smallest possible rocket for a given bomb.

Now that's completely unimportant. Now the thing to care about is total launch cost per kg of satellite. That depends on a large number of factors but the size of the rocket, the amount of fuel used, or 50 m/s of deltaV needed are way down in the noise. Construction cost, number of personnel to support the launch, transport costs are much more important. And, in the near future, reusability.

The thing I don't get about RocketLab is how they will make money when SpaceX already had and retired the Falcon 1 as uneconomic, when it took considerably more payload for about the same price as RocketLab's Electron.
 

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Re: Upcoming New Zealand Space Launch
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2017, 06:51:44 pm »
Thats what I was wondering too. 


They do have a very good shot to the east. (If you launch east and are near the equator you get a significant boost from the angular momentum of the earth.)

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Isnt New Zealand a bad place to actually do this? I mean it requires more energy, isnt it?
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Re: Upcoming New Zealand Space Launch
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2017, 11:14:29 pm »
Are the last minute diagnostic checks being performed with Fluke meters or Uni-T ?
 


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