UK forum members, BREXIT?

[continuo]

Well, Ladies and Gentlemen, today is the day, the polling stations are open, pick your choice, make your decision... And let it be a wise one...

[zapta]

This referendum is advisory only, not really binding right?

[DimitriP]

This referendum is advisory only, not really binding right?

Right. It's just a suggestion

[grumpydoc]

This referendum is advisory only, not really binding right?

Right. It's just a suggestion

Depends who you believe

[Kjelt]

What if it is 50/50 or close to that, probably nothing will happen? 

[AndyC_772]

I believe a simple majority is all that's required one way or the other. We just have to hope that an odd number of people turn out to vote!

Speaking of which... back soon 

[DimitriP]

I haven't found one place/reference that claims it's legaly binding.

Fun read: http://www.businessinsider.com/green-eu-referendum-not-legally-binding-brexit-2016-6

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referendums_in_the_United_Kingdom

although he tried ... http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-europe-referendum-idUSKBN0EQ0PD20140615

[rch]

There is no way under the British constitution to make a referendum legally binding, as Parliament, being sovereign, can always reverse its previous decision.   That said, if there was a big majority one way it would be politically impossible to ignore it, at least without another referendum.

[Kjelt]

That said, if there was a big majority one way it would be politically impossible to ignore it

not impossible but it will probably be political suicide. 

[StuUK]

Been and voted!

[grumpydoc]

Been and voted!

+1, only 46,499,535 votes to go

[daqq]

I haven't found one place/reference that claims it's legaly binding.

It's not legally binding... that said it might not be a great idea to not comply with legally gained explicit will of a majority of your population.

[StuUK]

I haven't found one place/reference that claims it's legaly binding.

It's not legally binding... that said it might not be a great idea to not comply with legally gained explicit will of a majority of your population.

Indeed!!!

[rch]

I haven't found one place/reference that claims it's legaly binding.

It's not legally binding... that said it might not be a great idea to not comply with legally gained explicit will of a majority of your population.

Indeed!!!

Hence the S.O.P. of holding repeated referenda until you get the result you want!

[Galenbo]

Why? We're all going to stay befriended nations, whatever the outcome. Everyone will do their best to make the situation after the vote work.

Of course. Import and export will go on like before. Will be transported and payed as before.
Some politicians and their bureaucracy of the +7 levels above me will have to adapt somewhat, quickly write some notes, and redefine some priorities.
No big changes are to be expected.

Pretty much everyone in the Remain camp has admitted that reform of the current EU is necessary.

Like 5,10,15 and 20 years ago. Voting for change/reform will give change/reform. But what change/reform?
If remain wins (let's say with 52%), they will get reform. A whole bunch of unreadable documents that makes referenda de-facto impossible.

What if it is 50/50 or close to that, probably nothing will happen? 

It will be. The result will be within the fault margin that "counting votes" always has.
I also would prefer a referendum with a very easy entrance exam, to keep the 10% complete idiots of both sides out.

I haven't found one place/reference that claims it's legaly binding.

So they still can get out, even if 55% votes remain :-)

[nctnico]

That said, if there was a big majority one way it would be politically impossible to ignore it

not impossible but it will probably be political suicide. 

I doubt it. The public's memory is short so they just wait and delay. Remember the referendum about Ukrain in the NL? I strongly doubt our parliament will honor the outcome.

[jancumps]

This thread's poll on the day of voting, for reference: 41/41/61/58

[zapta]

A new EU proposal calls for taxing automation:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-robotics-lawmaking-idUSKCN0Z72AY

[vodka]

But Spain have collapsed, Barcelona wants out of Spain.

The  zone metropolitan of Barcelona don't want out the Spain neither Tarragona that the zone more industrializing from this region(aproximately 5 Millions from 7Millions)   while the Deep Catalonia  or hicks are who wants out the Spain

And this region had a President very very stupid as Cameron that liked referendums and elections every two years(4 times on less 6 years). He have destroyed his coalition ,sank two traditionals parties(CDC and Unio) and a anti-system party(CUP) .

The consequence for Catalonia a uncontable debt(aproximately 700M €) .they don't pay to the pharmaceuticals corporations,hospitas etc .And Spain have to borrow money to EU for paying the catalonia debts.

While they go opening  Catalonia ambassadorship with a cost 1M€ for month with the money from catalonia kidnapped,the spanish and all the  European countries ,inclusive the british.

[AndyC_772]

A new EU proposal calls for taxing automation:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-robotics-lawmaking-idUSKCN0Z72AY

Oh, bloody marvellous. Please, someone show these people around a factory before they start trying to decide that a "robot" is a new thing that can be taxed and regulated.

It'll be like a biologist trying to define what is alive and what isn't. Is a CNC mill a robot? Or a pick & place machine? Or does it have to have red glowing eyes and demand your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle?

[vodka]

A new EU proposal calls for taxing automation:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-robotics-lawmaking-idUSKCN0Z72AY

I doubt that they put this tax because euro-parlaments have to face with the german industrials lobbies and if the euro-parlament put  fools ,the lobbies have mechanism for changing their intention.

(As the classic joke from dentsit and the client, when the client catches the nuts dentist's and he says "Aren't  we  going to hurt  us?")

[bitslice]

A new EU proposal calls for taxing automation:

An intelligent robot does not necessarily require a human form to be considered a person,
by that reasoning we should therefore expect a robot cat tax.

[vodka]

An intelligent robot does not necessarily require a human form to be considered a person,
by that reasoning we should therefore expect a robot cat tax.

So , we shall have a tax for all types the robot , since cook robot , warehouse robot until the  military robot as the  systems anti-aircarft and the reload  systems.
 
it hasn't any  sense and it would be very difficult for applying

[apis]

Any guesstimates when the preliminary results will be in? if both sides are about 50% I'm guessing it can take all night?

A new EU proposal calls for taxing automation:

"proposal" being the operative word...

[MK14]

About 5 or 6 minutes after the polls (real) have CLOSED in the UK, I took the results here:

tl;dr
Almost EXACTLY neck and neck.