Is there a DVI/VGA/HDMI monitor in every smart TV?

[Phaedrus]

Smart TVs are the most pointless product category to be launched since, well, 3D TVs. Why would I pay more to get a TV with built-in crapware that serves no purpose? I can replicate the (useful) functionality of any smart TV with nothing but a $35 Chromecast, and I can expand well beyond that functionality by simply hooking up a computer with a wireless KB+M. Without having to deal with injected advertising.

The people responsible for this idea should be shot.

[tom66]

Smart TVs are perfect from a TV manufacturer's point of view.

Look at phones: before there were smartphones, most people only got a new phone when they broke their old one, or something went wrong with it.

Now with smartphones: OMG, must have NEW. Apple's  got a new iPhone I don't care I must have the NEWEST!

TVs...

Oh, this TV is 1080p and has HDMI ports. That's nice. But I don't need that right now, my 720p TV is fine.
Oh, this TV has 4K capability. That's nice.  But I don't need that right now, my 1080p TV is fine.

Now...

Oh, this TV has Samsung's 2015 Smart Hub functionality. That won't work with Netflix/iPlayer in 2 years time.

Quite frankly the people who started the smart TV phase are business geniuses... as much as we may relent it!

[rdl]

For entering the UEFI setup, you have to boot Windows and tell it to boot into UEFI setup the next time. But yes, uefi complicates things, although when using linux you can get rid of bootloaders and have the UEFI start the kernel directly.

Huh? Is this some Windows 8 crap? On my computer you enter the UEFI BIOS the same way as usual, just hit a key during boot. Windows has nothing to do with it.

[Richard Crowley]

For entering the UEFI setup, you have to boot Windows and tell it to boot into UEFI setup the next time. But yes, uefi complicates things, although when using linux you can get rid of bootloaders and have the UEFI start the kernel directly.

Huh? Is this some Windows 8 crap? On my computer you enter the UEFI BIOS the same way as usual, just hit a key during boot. Windows has nothing to do with it.

Yes. Windows 8 is attempting to make the system more "user-friendly"  Typically there is an extra hardware button for "Recovery" which boots Win8 into a separate maze of options for reblasting, refreshing, reverting, etc.

[Rigby]

UEFI is completely independent of Windows 8.  UEFI doesn't need Windows 8 and Windows 8 doesn't need UEFI.

However, UEFI can be setup (by any OS that knows how to do it) to boot into UEFI setup on next boot rather than following the usual boot process.

[Lukas]

For entering the UEFI setup, you have to boot Windows and tell it to boot into UEFI setup the next time. But yes, uefi complicates things, although when using linux you can get rid of bootloaders and have the UEFI start the kernel directly.

Huh? Is this some Windows 8 crap? On my computer you enter the UEFI BIOS the same way as usual, just hit a key during boot. Windows has nothing to do with it.

Probably not all UEFIs do this,but some are. Source:  http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/24869.html

[Zero999]

For entering the UEFI setup, you have to boot Windows and tell it to boot into UEFI setup the next time. But yes, uefi complicates things, although when using linux you can get rid of bootloaders and have the UEFI start the kernel directly.

Huh? Is this some Windows 8 crap? On my computer you enter the UEFI BIOS the same way as usual, just hit a key during boot. Windows has nothing to do with it.

Probably not all UEFIs do this,but some are. Source:  http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/24869.html

Presumably that's just the default setting. If you booted into Windows (yes I do understand you'd need to click agree on the EULA which some Linus users may object to), you can then change it to boot to the UEFI set up, then you can boot from a Linux USB and install Linux.