The Art of Electronics 3rd edition - author response

[lapm]

I find it troubling to see that such an important book could take so long to be revised.

Becouse its important it takes time to get it right.. Personally i buy it when its ready and as few errors as bossible by humans.

Considering how many pages and content 2nd edittion has im not suprised at all it takes time... Have my 2nd ed. close to my electronics desk for quick reference. Should have it rebinded one of these days, covers are coming loose for all the use i have get out of this book...

[solarmist]

So Winfield tried to edit Wikipedia, but because they won't allow primary source they reverted it.

This is just stupid.  So if he had written that on his own site, then someone could have edited the wikipedia page to say:

"Quoting Winfield's site................"

Would that have been OK?

Yup, probably.  That's why I started posting my emails here before I added the info to wikipedia. You have to have a reference for any new information added to an article

[EEMarc]

I've read my 2nd edition book cover to cover multiple times.

I can't wait to see an updated version. The problem is that electronics have advanced so much over time that it is hard to keep up with. Even the earlier material produced for the third edition is probably becoming obsolete. That does make me worried about the Authors ability to release the book. I've had involvement with some technical books and documents. It is a work of art and royal PITA to get to the level of quality of this book.

[rodpp]

Pre order (expected April 30, 2015) in Amazon US, $108:
http://www.amazon.com/The-Art-Electronics-Paul-Horowitz/dp/0521809266/ref=dp_ob_title_bk

[EEVblog]

Seems like LadyAda among others have seen a copy.

[lapm]

Seems like LadyAda among others have seen a copy.

Good God, i need to borrow that time machine...

Its good news that theres rough copies arround...

[rolycat]

Brits will have to wait another couple of months, although as compensation it appears to be a lot cheaper from the UK - only £46.13 which is currently about $69:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Art-Electronics-Paul-Horowitz/dp/0521809266/ref=sr_1_1

Seems like LadyAda among others have seen a copy.

Also the legendary Jim Williams, who thinks it's 'simply spectacular'. This is particularly impressive given that he died nearly four years ago.

(I'm sure it's a legitimate quote, and he was speaking about an early draft.)

[EEVblog]

Also the legendary Jim Williams, who thinks it's 'simply spectacular'. This is particularly impressive given that he died nearly four years ago.

Holy crap, has it been 4 years?

[elgonzo]

Brits will have to wait another couple of months, although as compensation it appears to be a lot cheaper from the UK - only £46.13 which is currently about $69:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Art-Electronics-Paul-Horowitz/dp/0521809266/ref=sr_1_1

Holy potato!
The amazon.co.uk offer might be interesting for people in other EU countries too. For example, amazon.de offers the book for 105.36 Euro -- even when considering shipping costs and potential addtional VAT the UK offer is much much better. Fingers crossed that this bargain price is not just a case of mispricing.

[Macbeth]

Holy potato!
The amazon.co.uk offer might be interesting for people in other EU countries too. For example, amazon.de offers the book for 105.36 Euro -- even when considering shipping costs and potential addtional VAT the UK offer is much much better. Fingers crossed that this bargain price is not just a case of mispricing.

Well, it's apparently covered by amazons Pre-order Price Guarantee, which means you pay the price agreed even if the final published price is higher. If the final price is lower you only pay the lower price. Also the money isn't taken from your card until despatch day.

Seems like a no brainer to me - I got my order in quick sharp. Free Delivery too. 
The extra couple of months wait vs the USA edition is a bit of a downer 
I wonder, are the extra two months being used to add all the extra vowels us proper Queens English speakers require?

[elgonzo]

Holy potato!
The amazon.co.uk offer might be interesting for people in other EU countries too. For example, amazon.de offers the book for 105.36 Euro -- even when considering shipping costs and potential addtional VAT the UK offer is much much better. Fingers crossed that this bargain price is not just a case of mispricing.

Well, it's apparently covered by amazons Pre-order Price Guarantee, which means you pay the price agreed even if the final published price is higher. If the final price is lower you only pay the lower price. Also the money isn't taken from your card until despatch day.

Mispricings are specifically excluded from Amazon's Pre-order Price Guarantee. If it would be indeed a mispricing the worst that can happen is Amazon cancelling the pre-orders. (The publisher states an UK price of about GBP 60, so at this time i would not yet rule out that the amazon.co.uk price is wrong - but even if it were, GBP 60 is still a very good price.)

[Macbeth]

Mispricings are specifically excluded from Amazon's Pre-order Price Guarantee. If it would be indeed a mispricing the worst that can happen is Amazon cancelling the pre-orders. (The publisher states an UK price of about GBP 60, so at this time i would not yet rule out that the amazon.co.uk price is wrong - but even if it were, GBP 60 is still a very good price.)

Yes, but amazon.co.uk quote the RRP at £59.99 - at worst the mis-price is £0.01p compared to Cambridge University Press. Amazon then quote a 23% discount off RRP. This is not a mis-price at all! 

[elgonzo]

Yes, but amazon.co.uk quote the RRP at £59.99 - at worst the mis-price is £0.01p compared to Cambridge University Press. Amazon then quote a 23% discount off RRP. This is not a mis-price at all! 

Oops, you are right. Didn't see that. 
I was only seeing the price in the center of the screen, my old eyes have difficulties looking somewhere else 
Fortunately that means no fingercrossing needed, and i can relax my hands now

[Mechanical Menace]

Brits will have to wait another couple of months, although as compensation it appears to be a lot cheaper from the UK - only £46.13 which is currently about $69:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Art-Electronics-Paul-Horowitz/dp/0521809266/ref=sr_1_1

Holy potato!
The amazon.co.uk offer might be interesting for people in other EU countries too. For example, amazon.de offers the book for 105.36 Euro -- even when considering shipping costs and potential addtional VAT the UK offer is much much better. Fingers crossed that this bargain price is not just a case of mispricing.

Were lucky on not having VAT on books. https://www.gov.uk/rates-of-vat-on-different-goods-and-services#printing-postage-publications---books-magazines-and-newspapers

[owiecc]

Ordered it from UK to DK. Even with shipping and Danish VAT i paid £65.

Just to tease you: AoE2 is translated into Polish. The price of the translated book is ca. £16

[elgonzo]

Holy potato!
The amazon.co.uk offer might be interesting for people in other EU countries too. For example, amazon.de offers the book for 105.36 Euro -- even when considering shipping costs and potential addtional VAT the UK offer is much much better. Fingers crossed that this bargain price is not just a case of mispricing.

Were lucky on not having VAT on books. https://www.gov.uk/rates-of-vat-on-different-goods-and-services#printing-postage-publications---books-magazines-and-newspapers

Yeah. You even do not have VAT on Jaffa biscuits ...pardon... cakes. 
But for many other EU countries, VAT will apply (the rate will differ from country to country, ofcourse). When delivering to a EU country, amazon.co.uk will charge the respective VAT.

[iz4afl]

Hi,
I have just got ToC and sample chapter 9 of the Art of Electronics 3rd ed. from Cambridge Univ. Press.
You can request your free chapter 9 copy here:
http://www.cambridge.org/at/academic/subjects/physics/electronics-physicists/art-electronics-3rd-edition

Table of Contents:
ONE: Foundations
TWO: Bipolar Transistors
THREE: Field-Effect Transistors
FOUR: Operational Amplifiers
FIVE: Precision Circuits
SIX: Filters
SEVEN: Oscillators and Timers
EIGHT: Low-Noise Techniques
NINE: Voltage Regulation and Power Conversion
TEN: Digital Logic
ELEVEN: Programmable Logic Devices
TWELVE: Logic Interfacing
THIRTEEN : Digital meets Analog
FOURTEEN: Computers, Controllers, andData Links
FIFTEEN: Microcontrollers

APPENDIX A: Math Review
APPENDIX B: How to Draw Schematic Diagrams
APPENDIX C: Resistor Types
APPENDIX D: Th´evenin’s Theorem
APPENDIX E: LC Butterworth Filters
APPENDIX F: Load Lines
APPENDIX G: The Curve Tracer
APPENDIX H: Transmission Lines and Impedance Matching
APPENDIX I: Television: A Compact Tutorial
APPENDIX J: SPICE Primer
APPENDIX K: “Where Do I Go to Buy Electronic Goodies?”
APPENDIX L: Workbench Instruments and Tools
APPENDIX M: Catalogs, Magazines, Databooks
APPENDIX N: Further Reading and References
APPENDIX O: The Oscilloscope
APPENDIX P: Acronyms and Abbreviations

[Smokey]

Ahhhh come on and post the download password here.  You know you want to!  It's probably something like "I<3TAoE3ed" anyway.

[iz4afl]

you are almost right:
Artofelectronics3

;-)

[max666]

amazon.de has it pre-order for EUR 66,95 and expected to deliver in May. 
I pre-ordered it right now.

[Fraser]

Ordered a good condition used hardcover copy of AoE 2 (£19) and a new copy of AoE 3 (£53) today. Plenty of good reading material there 

I bought the AoE 2 because of the comments of the author regarding material that had to be removed. I would always have wondered what I was missing 

Aurora

[jbravo]

Hello, everyone.

I'm sure everyone has been excitely waiting the end of the year for news of the third edition (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?topic=3473.0) So, I've taken it upon myself to ask for an update and surprise I got a response christmas morning. So, here's a christmas present for the electronics community

I asked "I was wondering if there's an update to when you think the 3rd edition might be out? "

And the response I got was as follows:

 We're getting closer.  For example, we broke the
 old 80-page precision and low-noise Chapter 7 into
 two, both greatly-expanded with massive cool stuff.
 We submitted Chapter 5, Precision Circuits, last
 summer, and it was 135 pages long.  This week
 we're finishing Chapter 8, Low-Noise Techniques,
 and we expect it to be about 130 pages.  So that's
 about 3x more great material, on just those two
 topics!  We expect y'all will love it.

 In January we'll submit chapter 9, Power Design -
 it's almost done now, and then we'll have submitted
 15 chapters, leaving five more "x" chapters to go.

 I think I mentioned the x chapters, with their extra,
 more-advanced material, so we certainly don't want
 to short-change them!  Anyway, three of those are
 more than half done, and we hope to have submitted
 everything by next summer.

 That means the book should be out by late 2012 or
 early 2013.


--
   - Win

Winfield Hill
Rowland Institute at Harvard
100 Edwin Land Blvd
Cambridge, MA  02142



Happy Christmas everyone!

[jbravo]

I have purchased the book and is too heavy to read it on the go. Is there any special offer for buying the Kindle version or would I have to pay full price, since I want to have it in the top formats.
Thanks