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Offline Zero999

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Re: Taking audiophoolery to the extreme
« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2015, 12:31:23 pm »
No, it's a scam, preying on the uneducated.

You dont have to uneducated to think the same file on 2 different storages (HDD/SSD/network/etc) will sound different. You have to be complete f*ckin moron to think that!
It's still not right for someone to take advantage of it.

These sort of people are like the crooked shop workers who short change the mentally retarded because they know they can't count their change. Just because someone is incapable of understanding something and is therefore easy prey, it's still wrong for someone to take advantage of them.
 

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Re: Taking audiophoolery to the extreme
« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2015, 01:10:39 pm »
I understand Conkbot's point of view, threads that are clones don't contribute to the forum.

On the subject of misleading customers, is this a whole grey area for some of the electronics industry?
Alan sugar performed some slight of hand, rehashing old spectrum computers and selling them for many, many times their value.
Then there's the maths trick with power output of audio amps.

The audiophool are at the extreme in a range from a dodgy car salesman to a medium/psychic.
 

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Re: Taking audiophoolery to the extreme
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2015, 01:15:25 pm »
No, it's a scam, preying on the uneducated.

You dont have to uneducated to think the same file on 2 different storages (HDD/SSD/network/etc) will sound different. You have to be complete f*ckin moron to think that!

I can understand how people fall for the other stuff, but this is taking the bull to a new level.

As an experiment, I asked my uneducated wife if she thought it would sound different, she said no.
In the early days of HD LCD TVs most of them wouldn't display a picture without screwing around with it. in some way, like forcing overscan on you. After a while sanity prevailed, and a 1:1 pixel mode was introduced, but the default is still to overscan. You need to go into deep menus with most TVs to select 1:1 pixel mode. With that background, why would an an intelligent person without detailed knowledge of server equipment not expect it to be manipulating things in some way?
 

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Re: Taking audiophoolery to the extreme
« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2015, 01:47:23 pm »
Its a file, if there is any wanking of the bits that make that file, the file is no longer intact, does your computer boots everyday with a new glitch in the OS text, or in the display, or in any other sub-system?
 

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Re: Taking audiophoolery to the extreme
« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2015, 02:01:34 pm »
No, it's a scam, preying on the uneducated. Here are some quotes from people on another forum confessing to making audiophool purchases:


Nothing is perfect, not even placebo.
 

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Re: Taking audiophoolery to the extreme
« Reply #30 on: January 06, 2015, 02:11:12 pm »
What about cryogenic-treated USB sticks?  :-DD
 

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Re: Taking audiophoolery to the extreme
« Reply #31 on: January 06, 2015, 04:07:45 pm »
spindle disks are better than SSDs.  You get that record quality sound with the clicks and pops for that true overall music warmth.  The multi platter drives are best for stereo or surround sound.

You need to put the cable in the right way though. They're directional.
 

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Re: Taking audiophoolery to the extreme
« Reply #32 on: February 19, 2015, 08:16:59 pm »
oh no !!! I have to sell my noisy kingston SD



"for Premium Sound" tagline means quieter data transfers :-DD

Joking aside, if it have some basis and affect the sound measurably, and perceived by humans, not only for bats.  Would not it be easier, effective and practical to better shield the SD socket?

 ;D  I guess also have to change my AAA batteries and seek others with audiophile grade.
« Last Edit: February 19, 2015, 08:19:32 pm by manzini »
 

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Re: Taking audiophoolery to the extreme
« Reply #33 on: February 19, 2015, 09:26:57 pm »
It's still not right for someone to take advantage of it.
And that my friend, is a significant part of modern society's problems.   They do.
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Re: Taking audiophoolery to the extreme
« Reply #34 on: February 19, 2015, 09:48:22 pm »
Its not only memory cards, but extends to hard drives, sata cables, and everything else they can mark up. CES was full of that crap.
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Re: Taking audiophoolery to the extreme
« Reply #35 on: February 19, 2015, 10:47:46 pm »
What a BS test.  He didn't have the network cables sitting on little blocks of vibration dampening wood.  And look at those open USB ports on the drives.  All of the mid-range glissanance and low end scowl are leaking out all over the place, not to mention the high end fantitude.  And why are the drives sitting right near the records?  Doesn't he know that they're going to cross-contaminate the differential clock fulcrum?  What was he thinking?  I'll bet those plants in the listening room haven't even been synchro-tuned with the speaker cabinet's coniflanger.




 

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Re: Taking audiophoolery to the extreme
« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2015, 10:52:36 pm »
I'll bet those plants in the listening room haven't even been synchro-tuned with the speaker cabinet's coniflanger.
It's ok, they're classical plants.  We all know that plants like music.
I'd be more concerned with the resonant frequencies of those pots holding the plants = that can cause all sorts of harmonic disturbances of the inner field.
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Re: Taking audiophoolery to the extreme
« Reply #37 on: February 19, 2015, 11:02:36 pm »
oh no !!! I have to sell my noisy kingston SD



"for Premium Sound" tagline means quieter data transfers :-DD

Joking aside, if it have some basis and affect the sound measurably, and perceived by humans, not only for bats.  Would not it be easier, effective and practical to better shield the SD socket?
What's most likely referred to hear is not sonic noise emanating from the card itself, or even radiated electrical noise, but conducted noise. What happens to the system's Vcc if the card reads data in bursts 1000 times per second and draws a current spike each time? And in turn, what happens to the DAC's and audio amplifier's Vcc if the player is crappily designed? Granted, the better way to solve this problem, would be to use a player that is well designed.

Also, I'm taking the tagline as referring to the customer group, not an endorsement of the quality of the product. Just like, "for DV recording", or "for automotive applications".
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Re: Taking audiophoolery to the extreme
« Reply #38 on: February 20, 2015, 01:41:30 pm »
oh no !!! I have to sell my noisy kingston SD

"for Premium Sound" tagline means quieter data transfers :-DD

Joking aside, if it have some basis and affect the sound measurably, and perceived by humans, not only for bats.  Would not it be easier, effective and practical to better shield the SD socket?

 ;D  I guess also have to change my AAA batteries and seek others with audiophile grade.

Audio phoolery is a market with high profit margins. 64GB for US$ 160 is about 5 times the price of a common 64GB card.
 

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Re: Taking audiophoolery to the extreme
« Reply #39 on: February 20, 2015, 02:10:47 pm »
I've considered getting into the snake oil market as a "manufacturer", but I just can't bring myself to do it.   :P

Well, here's some audiophile guys doing a bottled water taste test:
 


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