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Re: russian hypersonic missiles
« Reply #25 on: January 03, 2019, 11:46:44 am »
Do You gremlin from Kremlin? Who will work in fields of undemocratic sience?

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Re: russian hypersonic missiles
« Reply #26 on: January 03, 2019, 11:46:55 am »
the s-400 will get destroyed MALDs, HARM and JSOWs, they made them to overwhelm russian defenses in a large scale conflict.

 

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Re: russian hypersonic missiles
« Reply #27 on: January 03, 2019, 11:49:17 am »
the s-400 will get destroyed MALDs, HARM and JSOWs, they made them to overwhelm russian defenses in a large scale conflict.
Why would it? S-400 is more than capable destroying those.
 

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Re: russian hypersonic missiles
« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2019, 11:49:45 am »
the s-400 will get destroyed MALDs, HARM and JSOWs, they made them to overwhelm russian defenses in a large scale conflict.

Of course, infact any BB gun as long its made from US, will be effective against S-400, no doubt about it.  :-+


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Re: russian hypersonic missiles
« Reply #29 on: January 03, 2019, 11:59:05 am »
You can make 3000 malds for 60mil.

look at cost and complexity of s400 system and how many are in service

400 million for 112 missiles.

its 20k/3.5 million, same exchange rate as the rubble pretty much

you can probably program the non destroyed ones to land so you can reuse them too.
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Re: russian hypersonic missiles
« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2019, 11:59:43 am »
Hating somebody doesn't make them stupid....

And fanboy nationalist "my nuke is bigger than yours" discussion is always leading nowhere.

None of us here have NO CLUE about real capabilities of any weapons system that is cutting edge. Vital parts of specs are highly classified.
All public statements are marketing, propaganda and most of the time outright disinformation.

Only real thing is that all this "better this, better that" is crap. Even old USSR (or USA) missiles from 1960ies can wipe out whole Europe in few minutes.

And yes, Russia and China are superpowers, have very smart scientists and are at the cutting edge of research in many areas..
 
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Re: russian hypersonic missiles
« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2019, 12:32:16 pm »
And yes, Russia and China are superpowers, have very smart scientists and are at the cutting edge of research in many areas..
Do You know some names?
 

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Re: russian hypersonic missiles
« Reply #32 on: January 03, 2019, 12:35:33 pm »
None of us here have NO CLUE about real capabilities of any weapons system that is cutting edge. Vital parts of specs are highly classified.
All public statements are marketing, propaganda and most of the time outright disinformation.


+1 , but for me, it is really interesting to observe and watch the "reaction" about it, either from the pro and con sides.  ;)

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Re: russian hypersonic missiles
« Reply #33 on: January 03, 2019, 12:37:12 pm »
STOP!!!!!!!!!!

NO AIR IN SPACE!
SO SOUND SPEED IS ZERO!!
ANY ROCKET CAN BE NAMED AS "SUPERSONIC"

STUPID RUSSIAN MARKETING  :palm:
 

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Re: russian hypersonic missiles
« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2019, 12:50:33 pm »
STOP!!!!!!!!!!

NO AIR IN SPACE!
SO SOUND SPEED IS ZERO!!
ANY ROCKET CAN BE NAMED AS "SUPERSONIC"

STUPID RUSSIAN MARKETING  :palm:
Yet another instance proving how clueless you are. It's hypersonic glider. And there is a lot of difference between supersonic and hypersonic.
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Re: russian hypersonic missiles
« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2019, 12:51:26 pm »
STOP!!!!!!!!!!

NO AIR IN SPACE!
SO SOUND SPEED IS ZERO!!
ANY ROCKET CAN BE NAMED AS "SUPERSONIC"

STUPID RUSSIAN MARKETING  :palm:

Agreed, those Chinese, Indians and Turkeys must be really stupid to buy that flying sausage S-400.  ;)

Btw, just a personal assesment, do you feel uneasy , threatened or in deep anxiety when everytimes you read or heard these words .

.... China , Ayatollah , Kim Jong Un , Putin , Kremlin , Iran .... and etc ...

Yep, its as expected, you are perfectly "normal".  >:D

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Re: russian hypersonic missiles
« Reply #36 on: January 03, 2019, 01:56:33 pm »
And yes, Russia and China are superpowers, have very smart scientists and are at the cutting edge of research in many areas..
Do You know some names?

Yes.
 

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Re: russian hypersonic missiles
« Reply #37 on: January 03, 2019, 02:24:56 pm »
And yes, Russia and China are superpowers, have very smart scientists and are at the cutting edge of research in many areas..
Do You know some names?
Yes.

Well
Tell us who is that  :-//
Is it some russian muslim scienciests? 
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Re: russian hypersonic missiles
« Reply #38 on: January 03, 2019, 02:31:12 pm »
And yes, Russia and China are superpowers, have very smart scientists and are at the cutting edge of research in many areas..
Do You know some names?
Yes.

Well
Tell us who is that  :-//
Is it some russian muslim scienciests? 


LOL you really have no clue, are you?
 

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Re: russian hypersonic missiles
« Reply #39 on: January 03, 2019, 03:04:58 pm »
LOL you really have no clue, are you?

Yep, its embarrassing and what a pity.  :palm:

You have to understand, lots of people there are living in alternate reality, and being brainwashed since they're born.

Have friend from military force, shared with me that US military forces, certain level there are tests at certain section, the cadettes were hook up with probes, sort of lie detector or stress level monitor, and then a lecturer speaks out just like a normal innocent generic speech. And then in those speech, some words were inserted like ... Ayatollah, Chinese Communist Party, Allahu-akbar, Putin, Kim Jong Un, Teheran .. etc, and they will measure the "changes" , and also words like London, NATO, Ottawa, EURO money, Pentagon ... etc.

Just leave the rest for you to imagine.  ;)

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Re: russian hypersonic missiles
« Reply #40 on: January 03, 2019, 03:12:46 pm »
Do You know any REAL product from Russia?
I dont know russian phones, testgears, auto,etc

So stories about russian top weapons no more than Hitler Vergeltungswaffen  during WWII for me
Yep, it seems even the russians don't exist, they are only a legend for scaring the americans...omg, you never saw a russian device, do you.


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Re: russian hypersonic missiles
« Reply #41 on: January 03, 2019, 03:18:34 pm »
Yep, it seems even the russians don't exist, they are only a legend for scaring the americans...omg, you never saw a russian device, do you.

I google for some russian auto and see what This is russian riot control police bus
Looks like armored train from XIX century


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Re: russian hypersonic missiles
« Reply #42 on: January 03, 2019, 03:20:52 pm »
STOP!!!!!!!!!!

NO AIR IN SPACE!
SO SOUND SPEED IS ZERO!!
ANY ROCKET CAN BE NAMED AS "SUPERSONIC"

STUPID RUSSIAN MARKETING  :palm:

Agreed, those Chinese, Indians and Turkeys must be really stupid to buy that flying sausage S-400.  ;)

Btw, just a personal assesment, do you feel uneasy , threatened or in deep anxiety when everytimes you read or heard these words .

.... China , Ayatollah , Kim Jong Un , Putin , Kremlin , Iran .... and etc ...

Yep, its as expected, you are perfectly "normal".  >:D

I see the appeal of being able to shoot down a ballistic missile that is launched by accident, its actually probably a good thing to have a few of these sprinkled around by different actors to keep the world safe. If something goes wrong its not the worst thing to have a independent party with different command and control systems to essentially save the world.

On the other hand, it is more dangerous for commercial and private space traffic, because someone can possibly shoot down something non military by accident. The more reaction time the better, which hypersonics make scary. Someone like India might actually contact the Kremlin or NORAD to confirm whats going on if they have time. If there is no time then kaboom. 

However, to call it a air defense solution against NATO is kind of a joke, it is just not economical. They will deplete your missile stock pile, then go back to an aircraft carrier and come back later at best. It is too expensive.
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Re: russian hypersonic missiles
« Reply #43 on: January 03, 2019, 03:23:46 pm »
They will deplete your missile stock pile, then go back to an aircraft carrier 
I never hear abot russian  aircraft carrier 
It can`t exist since seas around Russia are frosen
 

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Re: russian hypersonic missiles
« Reply #44 on: January 03, 2019, 03:24:34 pm »

I google for some russian auto and see what This is russian riot control bus
Looks not so cool. It is easy to think that Russia is only for goverment and army. Totally no info about science and civil life

Don't get me wrong neither, I'm in nato :) and counting on this...but I saw years ago russian equipment and I can tell it's heavy stuff compared to what I see in France...sturdy and ready to travel to the moon and back.
Exactly what european machinery misses this days, here we really cut the costs on every piece of hardware ending with some sh...tty product...
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Re: russian hypersonic missiles
« Reply #45 on: January 03, 2019, 03:25:44 pm »
They will deplete your missile stock pile, then go back to an aircraft carrier 
I never hear abot russian  aircraft carrier 
It can`t exist since seas around Russia are frosen
NATO has plenty of aircraft carriers and air bases??
 

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Re: russian hypersonic missiles
« Reply #46 on: January 03, 2019, 03:26:55 pm »

I google for some russian auto and see what This is russian riot control bus
Looks not so cool. It is easy to think that Russia is only for goverment and army. Totally no info about science and civil life

Don't get me wrong neither, I'm in nato :) and counting on this...but I saw years ago russian equipment and I can tell it's heavy stuff compared to what I see in France...sturdy and ready to travel to the moon and back.
Exactly what european machinery misses this days, here we really cut the costs on every piece of hardware ending with some sh...tty product...
Regards,pierre


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Well, with military hardware cheaper is better because it should never be used and it hurts everyone progress as a society to pay for that. Russian apartment building and road condition vs missile force condition...

Robust scientific equipment is essential to progress though IMO.
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Re: russian hypersonic missiles
« Reply #47 on: January 03, 2019, 03:28:23 pm »
At least
Why russians so agressive? The goverment spend money for top weapons, isnt it?
Is for muslim purposes?
 

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Re: russian hypersonic missiles
« Reply #48 on: January 03, 2019, 03:33:34 pm »
At least
Why russians so agressive? The goverment spend money for top weapons, isnt it?
Is for muslim purposes?

Their weapons are very psychological and very focused on giving small groups of people maximum control. This is why they load up icbm's like crazy with mirv and have giant ships. it also looks good.
 

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Re: russian hypersonic missiles
« Reply #49 on: January 03, 2019, 03:34:16 pm »
At least
Why russians so agressive? The goverment spend money for top weapons, isnt it?
Is for muslim purposes?
Russians? Check how much US spend on weapons.

 


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