russian hypersonic missiles

[coppercone2]

What do you think of this? I want it to be NATO designated Ferret because the animations show it running around like one.

[Marco]

Expensive toys which won't really change anything as far as I can see. Almost all wars are proxy wars against 1970's era tech countries or insurgents nowadays. Even with a conventional payload these things are far too expensive to waste on that.

Low flying supersonic missiles/UAVs seem more likely to be relevant, even then only to one conflict ... China Taiwan.

[coppercone2]

i think the problem is that it can get aircraft carriers good?

[Marco]

Low flying ones yes, but that's not what Russia is talking about.

[Mr. Scram]

Would Russia advertise its cutting edge capabilities like that? I always assume powers don't give away their latest and greatest, or have alternative motives. There's something to be said for having your adversary spend a lot of money and resources on a phantom threat. One of the benefits of having a single long term leader is that you can effectively play long games, rather than changing course every 4 or 8 years.

[tggzzz]

Would Russia advertise its cutting edge capabilities like that?

Of course they would - even if they didn't have the capability!

That's the entire rationale behind M.A.D.

Even on a smaller scale, a two-by-four LART can deter an attack, or consider that a prime benefit of a burglar alarm is to persuade a would-be thief to go somewhere less risky.

[Mr. Scram]

Of course they would.

That's the entire rationale behind M.A.D.

Even on a smaller scale, a two-by-four LART can deter an attack, or consider that a prime benefit of a burglar alarm is to persuade a would-be thief to go somewhere less risky.

Sure, but it pays to have an ace in the hole. The US didn't reveal its stealth bombers until they became old technology either, although we should assume the people most interested in that probably already knew more.

[PartialDischarge]

i think the problem is that it can get aircraft carriers good?

This is their response to the missile interceptors that the US has been deploying abroad

btw is your nickname related to shaped charges?

[tggzzz]

Of course they would.

That's the entire rationale behind M.A.D.

Even on a smaller scale, a two-by-four LART can deter an attack, or consider that a prime benefit of a burglar alarm is to persuade a would-be thief to go somewhere less risky.

Sure, but it pays to have an ace in the hole.

Not always.

Game theory can reveal interesting alternative ploys.

[coppercone2]

i think the problem is that it can get aircraft carriers good?

This is their response to the missile interceptors that the US has been deploying abroad

btw is your nickname related to shaped charges?

 

no its a biconical antenna made of big copper sheets

coppercone 1 would be a discone

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTKosJ2r99XTcgwI6vJeGpaHIS0oDX_IxQ1WZVuPCu5UGjQ5XPlBw
like this but I made the impedance/angle wrong, I think it has a bad impedance but a wider doughnut

its twice as high as wide rather then equal width and height for 50 ohms

so its like 55 degrees from the point.

[001]

Do You know any REAL product from Russia?
I dont know russian phones, testgears, auto,etc

So stories about russian top weapons no more than Hitler Vergeltungswaffen  during WWII for me

[PartialDischarge]

Do You know any REAL product from Russia?

I know a few real ones,


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-57
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irkut_MC-21
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-14_Armata
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RD-180
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Aircraft_Corporation#Products
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9M133_Kornet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-400_missile_system

[wraper]

Do You know any REAL product from Russia?
I dont know russian phones, testgears, auto,etc

So stories about russian top weapons no more than Hitler Vergeltungswaffen  during WWII for me

If you don't know does not mean they do not exist. Thanks for letting us know about your ignorance  .

[coppercone2]

he means products that are not designed to kill or instill fear.

[PartialDischarge]

he means products that are not designed to kill or instill fear.

I don't think he meant that, russians have technology and have extremely good scientists, yet the west would like to have them isolated.

[wraper]

he means products that are not designed to kill or instill fear.

There are Russian cars, airplanes  (I took a ride in those). There are Russian ICs made. Russian and western brand TVs are made in Russia. We have Russian made Osram fluorescent bulbs installed at my work. American Atlas 5 rocket uses Russian RD-180 engines...

[2N3055]

Do You know any REAL product from Russia?
I dont know russian phones, testgears, auto,etc

So stories about russian top weapons no more than Hitler Vergeltungswaffen  during WWII for me

So more than 25000 wounded, more than 10000 dead and more than 20000 houses destroyed in UK during V1/V2 WWII campaign was imaginary to you....

You confuse consumer items (like smartphones) with military/space technologies. Former USSR didn't care about consumer items, so they didn't even try to make it. They put their efforts solely to military applications. And made many highly sophisticated and many not so sophisticated but highly effective weapons systems..  They had and still have fantastic scientists and are at the cutting edge in many areas...
The fact that they don't make pink smartphones for teenagers is irrelevant in this discussion..

[001]

So more than 25000 wounded, more than 10000 dead and more than 20000 houses destroyed in UK during V1/V2 WWII campaign was imaginary to you....

It is too small for mystery top weapon. Hitler was failed, isnt`it?

  confuse consumer items (like smartphones) with military/space technologies. Former USSR didn't care about consumer items, so they didn't even try to make it. They put their efforts solely to military applications. And made many highly sophisticated and many not so sophisticated but highly effective weapons systems..  They had and still have fantastic scientists and are at the cutting edge in many areas...

Looks like B-movie stamp  Evil siencists etc 

The fact that they don't make pink smartphones for teenagers is irrelevant in this discussion..

Do You mean what they can`t make teenageers or phones? 

Once I visited Moscow city. Siberian wild muslims and used german cars are everywere.

[wraper]

Once I visited Moscow city. Siberian muslims and german cars everywere.

Muslims are not from Siberia  . A lot of those German cars were made in Russia.

[001]

Muslims are not from Siberia  .
 

So they actually wild. I cant imagine they like siensists
Look to this photo. This is some clergyman and russian  rocket

A lot of those German cars were made in Russia.
 

But You post LG TV-set photo  And it looks like china rebaged unit

[BravoV]

Do You know any REAL product from Russia?

I do, own few good great Russian silver mica caps, and they're even better than the metrology grade GR reference cap as verified by one of forum member here. 

[001]

I do, own few good great Russian silver mica caps, and they're even better than the metrology grade GR reference cap as verified by one of forum member here. 

It is marked as 1988 year. It was USSR time and unit is not actually "product" but some millitary part

[BravoV]

Those are old days ... now this little cute thingy called S-400 has made Uncle Sam experiences a terrible head-ache ... just watch the article's date as its recent. 

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/05/asia/india-s400-deal-intl/index.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/05/india-wants-to-buy-russian-missiles-to-counter-china-influence.html

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/americas-big-fear-turkey-mixing-f-35s-and-russias-s-400-air-defense-system-25152

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/chinas-new-russian-built-s-400-missile-system-threat-taiwan-40187

[wraper]

But You post LG TV-set photo  And it looks like china rebaged unit

LG and Samsung have manufacturing plants in Russia . As well as BMW, Audi, Toyota.

[001]

Those are old days ... now this little cute thingy called S-400 has made Uncle Sam experiences a terrible head-ache ... just watch the article's date as its recent. 

Do You gremlin from Kremlin? Who will work in fields of undemocratic sience?