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Offline eti

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Re: Pronunciation of "via(s)"
« Reply #75 on: October 21, 2020, 07:57:10 am »
Maybe this thread has served its "purpose" (it is going nowhere, and never was)
Yup, I can agree.
As for the blocking, I must apologize, it was involuntary.
Now, it definitely isn't.

I jumped to a conclusion, sorry mate. Deleting previous post now.
 

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Re: Pronunciation of "via(s)"
« Reply #76 on: October 22, 2020, 03:08:42 pm »
The proper pronouciation is "FEEDTHROUGH".

From https://www.thefreedictionary.com/feedthrough:

"A conductor connecting two circuits on opposite sides of a printed circuit board." (source: American Heritage Dictionary)
"a conductor used to connect two sides of a part, such as a printed circuit board" (source: Collins English Dictionary)

I was raised to call them feedthroughs. Everyone called them feedthroughs. There was precisely zero confusion. Then I got away from hardware for ~10 years at one point in my career, and when I circled back around to being involved in PCB's suddenly there were these things called "vias". I had no idea what they were talking about for a while.

I suspect, but have no evidence, that "via" showed up about the time that CAD and layout programs replaced hand-taping of PCB's. Maybe the software folks were trying to save screen space, or couldn't come up with an abbreviation for "feedthrough" that they liked, or something.

Feedthrough covers every variant:

* All interlayer connections are feedthroughs

* A subset of those involve at least one outside layer and are thus not "buried"

* A subset of those involve both outside layers

* A subset of those also accept a lead of a through-hole component

...and notice the correlation between "feedthrough" and "through-hole component". The word "via" isn't involved at all. They're not "via components". Through is the proper verb for both the components and the boards into which they install.

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Re: Pronunciation of "via(s)"
« Reply #77 on: October 22, 2020, 04:02:51 pm »
As long as we’re being pedantic, “through” is not a verb.  It can be a preposition, adverb, or adjective.
Personally, I use “feedthrough” to mean a discrete component or connector that penetrates a panel, not the hole itself, but you are free to use it for a plated-through hole.
“Via” is never pronounced “feed through”, which was the question.  You also mis-spelled “pronunciation”.
 
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Re: Pronunciation of "via(s)"
« Reply #78 on: October 22, 2020, 09:53:51 pm »
Hi,

As you may have noticed (or not), English isn't my mothertongue and I was wondering why, many times, the word "via" is pronounced differently in the context of pcb.
What is the correct pronunciation of "via's" when we talk about pcb's?

Thanks.
I think we've settled the pronunciation debate, now for the written English lesson. There's no apostrophe in vias, because it's plural, rather than possessive, or an abbreviation.
 
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Re: Pronunciation of "via(s)"
« Reply #79 on: October 22, 2020, 10:55:39 pm »
The proper pronouciation is "FEEDTHROUGH".

From https://www.thefreedictionary.com/feedthrough:

"A conductor connecting two circuits on opposite sides of a printed circuit board." (source: American Heritage Dictionary)
"a conductor used to connect two sides of a part, such as a printed circuit board" (source: Collins English Dictionary)

I was raised to call them feedthroughs. Everyone called them feedthroughs. There was precisely zero confusion. Then I got away from hardware for ~10 years at one point in my career, and when I circled back around to being involved in PCB's suddenly there were these things called "vias". I had no idea what they were talking about for a while.
That was probably about the same time as "Parts List"became "BOM", & "frequency response sweep" became "Bode Plot" (when I learnt about the latter, they were a purely theoretical thing done on graph paper, showing sharp calculated "breakpoints", not real world, gradual ones).
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I suspect, but have no evidence, that "via" showed up about the time that CAD and layout programs replaced hand-taping of PCB's. Maybe the software folks were trying to save screen space, or couldn't come up with an abbreviation for "feedthrough" that they liked, or something.

Feedthrough covers every variant:

* All interlayer connections are feedthroughs

* A subset of those involve at least one outside layer and are thus not "buried"

* A subset of those involve both outside layers

* A subset of those also accept a lead of a through-hole component

...and notice the correlation between "feedthrough" and "through-hole component". The word "via" isn't involved at all. They're not "via components". Through is the proper verb for both the components and the boards into which they install.

Subject settled!
 

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Re: Pronunciation of "via(s)"
« Reply #80 on: October 23, 2020, 01:48:18 am »
Feedthrough strikes me as still a perfectly good label for them. Not sure why the term suddenly became "unworthy".
 

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Re: Pronunciation of "via(s)"
« Reply #81 on: October 23, 2020, 02:52:03 am »
doesn't "feedthrough" translate to macdonalds
 


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