OT: YTD YouTube Downloader

[Mechatrommer]

1st: i will avoid raid unless there is good reason that say i must to.
2nd: its not about how big your "tool" is, but how do you "manage" it

I'm seriously considering dumping the lot on ebay and replacing them all

I have another 2TB drive I bought because my raid was full

[Monkeh]

1st: i will avoid raid unless there is good reason that say i must to.

Good for you.

2nd: its not about how big your "tool" is, but how do you "manage" it

Ah, so it's pointless to have lots of storage because a 'real man' will never actually use it?

[Mechatrommer]

2nd: its not about how big your "tool" is, but how do you "manage" it

Ah, so it's pointless to have lots of storage because a 'real man' will never actually use it?

excuse me "lady". i didnt say having a lot of storage is pointless. please read the semantics carefully.
keep selling and buying your storage (or any "tools" for that matter) should tell you something on how you manage your storage. still i wont claim that act as pointless.
terminology: lady = listening to words (or whispers) that man didnt say and have much to assume

[Monkeh]

2nd: its not about how big your "tool" is, but how do you "manage" it

Ah, so it's pointless to have lots of storage because a 'real man' will never actually use it?

excuse me "lady". i didnt say having a lot of storage is pointless. please read the semantics carefully.

It's hard to read broken english carefully.

keep selling and buying your storage (or any "tools" for that matter) should tell you something on how you manage your storage.

Or about the price and availability of rapidly-moving technology.. Wasn't that long ago that 2TB drives didn't exist.

terminology: lady = listening to words (or whispers) that man didnt say and have much to assume

More like rampant sexism.

[poptones]

I don't get it. Am I some kinda douche because I filled up a 2.5TB RAID?

I also don't get why anyone would not use a RAID. I've been doing video work more than a decade, RAIDs are not only faster they're fault tolerant. After losing all my stuff (in windows) for the umpteenth time I said "screw this" and left windows and adopted raid. Now the only time I lose something is when I choose it. This isn't space age wizardry, it's basic metal and silicon stuff. It's dead easy in linux, I have to imagine it's just as easy in windows.

/home/poptones# mdadm --detail /dev/md0
/dev/md0:
        Version : 0.90
  Creation Time : Sat Apr 24 16:42:14 2010
     Raid Level : raid5
     Array Size : 2500516864 (2384.68 GiB 2560.53 GB)
  Used Dev Size : 625129216 (596.17 GiB 640.13 GB)

Three years, one drive lost and replaced effortlessly. Why would anyone not want that?

[Monkeh]

I don't get it. Am I some kinda douche because I filled up a 2.5TB RAID?

Well, duh. The 8TB array which has to last me for another few years for primary storage makes me a superdouche.

Let you in on a little secret: I bought it before HDD prices trebled.

[poptones]

I don't keep up with hardware unless I need some. HDD prices tripled? You mean I missed the chance to buy a WD black 2TB drive for 60 bucks?

Ironically, the most expensive part of having lots of drives is the controller. The chipsets now have ten or more sata channels but the motherboard makers only support 4 or, if you're lucky, six. Crazy.

[Monkeh]

I don't keep up with hardware unless I need some. HDD prices tripled?

Thailand floods. Prices tripled for a while there and still haven't come back down. I missed them by a couple of weeks.

You mean I missed the chance to buy a WD black 2TB drive for 60 bucks?

Don't think the blacks were ever that cheap. Greens were, though. Not any more.

Ironically, the most expensive part of having lots of drives is the controller. The chipsets now have ten or more sata channels but the motherboard makers only support 4 or, if you're lucky, six. Crazy.

Chipsets still only support 6, usually, although some support eight (6 SATA/300 and 2 SATA/600). Board space and cabling are a serious limitation in adding extra ports. You want a dedicated controller for large arrays anyway.

[poptones]

I thought I read the new chipsets were supposed to have up to ten ports.

Oh well. I don't have any plans to upgrade mobo or cpu any time soon. 8GB ram can be kinda tight at times (I do lots of graphics and video stuff) but my machine still performs as well as a pretty good i5 system and I certainly am not anxious to spend $500 on a CPU chip. I was thinking about getting a couple of these, though - then I could add another raid and both would only take up two motherboard connectors.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124043

[Monkeh]

I thought I read the new chipsets were supposed to have up to ten ports.

Oh well. I don't have any plans to upgrade mobo or cpu any time soon. 8GB ram can be kinda tight at times (I do lots of graphics and video stuff) but my machine still performs as well as a pretty good i5 system and I certainly am not anxious to spend $500 on a CPU chip. I was thinking about getting a couple of these, though - then I could add another raid and both would only take up two motherboard connectors.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124043

Those things can seriously affect performance, especially if your board doesn't support FIS-based switching. Not all boards do even if the chipset does (although the BIOS can probably be hacked).

[poptones]

Not interested in hacking a bios, just interested in moving my data. I have a 5 disc raid5 and all my ports are in use including those on a two port card I added. If I were to buy 5 new drives to make a bigger raid I'd need another 4 port card at least

Also not crazy about hardware raid solutions. mdadm works just fine for me and I know I can do diagnostics any time.

[Mechatrommer]

2nd: its not about how big your "tool" is, but how do you "manage" it

It's hard to read broken english carefully.

care to correct? because thats how i was told in school. and i'm pretty certain that "manage" is not equal to "pointless", any standard 1 pupil knows that as well.

[T4P]

Monkeh, the newly released AMD A85X support 8 SATA 600 ports and all of the supporting motherboards are providing 7 SATA ports and 1 E-SATA

try to look in C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Chrome or the like... i used File Size Manager and then i catched that on top list. maybe not a cache, i dont know what it is, not usefull to me, i got a warning saying my C is only less than 100MB, and gone it be. can you believe that? 100MB left of free space? i know but i choosed this way and i'm not going to regret it

I'm not kidding, i know exactly where the cache FOLDER is and i see 72MB

[Monkeh]

Monkeh, the newly released AMD A85X support 8 SATA 600 ports and all of the supporting motherboards are providing 7 SATA ports and 1 E-SATA

Oh, right, the datasheetless chipsets.

[T4P]

That is quite a problem ... BUT ah well  It's not like i'll ever need it