'Master' and 'slave': Tech terms face scrutiny amid anti-racism efforts

[Ed.Kloonk]

 

[bd139]

He's not wrong but is not going to be popular this week. Sort of like when he started praising Trump 

[EEVblog]

The worst bit of this is not them changing the words.  It's them projecting THEIR racism onto words we all use.  By pointing at an innocent term and declaring it racist... is racist.
I am livid that they are projecting their racism onto me.

THIS.

Not just terms, but things you say. They are the ones that see *insert ism here* into everything everyone says, and then proceed to call that person a *insert ist here*. And then the muppets on twitter pile on without even thinking or bothering to ask the person if they meant any *insert ism here* by it.
Don't ask me how I know this for a fact...

[Ed.Kloonk]

He's not wrong but is not going to be popular this week. Sort of like when he started praising Trump 

The normies are just mad cos Scott has got himself a little hottie.

[EEVblog]

He's not wrong but is not going to be popular this week. Sort of like when he started praising Trump 

Another classic example of how polarised people are and how they project things onto people.
Adam's didn't praise Trump back in the day, he merely analysed his speech and mannerisms and persuasive skills etc (he is educated in this field) and based on this predicted that Trump would win when no one was else predicting that. But because of Trump derangement syndrome, you aren't even allowed to discuss stuff like that or you are instantly branded a Trump supporter. He instantly lost almost all his speaking gigs as a result.
Nuance and rational discussion and analysis in anything is dead.

[Ed.Kloonk]

He instantly lost almost all his speaking gigs as a result.

He's worth 70m apparently.

[bd139]

He's not wrong but is not going to be popular this week. Sort of like when he started praising Trump 

Another classic example of how polarised people are and how they project things onto people.
Adam's didn't praise Trump back in the day, he merely analysed his speech and mannerisms and persuasive skills etc (he is educated in this field) and based on this predicted that Trump would win when no one was else predicting that. But because of Trump derangement syndrome, you aren't even allowed to discuss stuff like that or you are instantly branded a Trump supporter. He instantly lost almost all his speaking gigs as a result.
Nuance and rational discussion and analysis in anything is dead.

Fair point!

[EEVblog]

Yesterday's Dilbert has comments that are tangentially relevant to this discussion.



I expect there will be a few follow-on cartoons

Yep:

[EEVblog]

He instantly lost almost all his speaking gigs as a result.

He's worth 70m apparently.

Sure, but he probably really likes doing his speaking gigs.

[SerieZ]

He's not wrong but is not going to be popular this week. Sort of like when he started praising Trump 

Another classic example of how polarised people are and how they project things onto people.
Adam's didn't praise Trump back in the day, he merely analysed his speech and mannerisms and persuasive skills etc (he is educated in this field) and based on this predicted that Trump would win when no one was else predicting that. But because of Trump derangement syndrome, you aren't even allowed to discuss stuff like that or you are instantly branded a Trump supporter. He instantly lost almost all his speaking gigs as a result.
Nuance and rational discussion and analysis in anything is dead.

Only dead where the outrage Mob holds Power - People still discuss in their homes and places like this Forum. I personally am not afraid of speaking my mind, not in Public either or at my workplace.

On a side note:
Monday Night they poured red color on a Statue of David de Pury in Neuchâtel. The removal of the color of course payed by the taxpayer.
A far relative of de Pury suggests to do more research into his relative instead of tearing down the Statue.
A grave mistake IMHO but this person probably still thinks these people behave rationally and objective.

The statue was placed there 150 years ago in gratitude for de Pury donating all his wealth to his hometown. Wealth of which some part was made with slave trade.
At this point Switzerland was an extremely poor country and it was used for mostly public buildings like a school and a Library.

I wish the slavers of today would be hold to the same standards of the people who profiteered of it 150 years ago. But I guess that would not fit these Marxists worldview.

[tggzzz]

The worst bit of this is not them changing the words.  It's them projecting THEIR racism onto words we all use.  By pointing at an innocent term and declaring it racist... is racist.
I am livid that they are projecting their racism onto me.

THIS.

Not just terms, but things you say. They are the ones that see *insert ism here* into everything everyone says, and then proceed to call that person a *insert ist here*. And then the muppets on twitter pile on without even thinking or bothering to ask the person if they meant any *insert ism here* by it.
Don't ask me how I know this for a fact...

People miss their lynchings, and have found new mechanisms.

Allied with that is the recent populist "don't believe experts" meme, which has its own (longstanding) variant visible on this forum.

[xrunner]

What about the Masters golf tournament? 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masters_Tournament

https://www.theblaze.com/news/the-masters-name-change-racist#:~:text=The%20sports%20blog%20Deadspin%20published,moniker%3A%20The%20Augusta%20National%20Invitational.
https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/news/golf/odds-masters-augusta-renamed-blm-movement-favorite/

I'll say it again, it doesn't end, it never ends.

Wow - I really was just joking! 

Edit: Which probably makes me a racist.

[PlainName]

Is there a list of words that are now forbidden in any engineering context? Obviously, 'master' and 'slave', but also 'black' and presumably 'white'. Have I missed any (and about to get lynched for using them)?

[EEVblog]

Only dead where the outrage Mob holds Power - People still discuss in their homes and places like this Forum. I personally am not afraid of speaking my mind, not in Public either or at my workplace.

Yep, it's almost entirely centered on Twitter.
Unfortunately the media fuel the fire and think that a few retweets on Twitter constitutes public opinion.

[EEVblog]

Wow - I really was just joking! 

Careful, you can get cancelled for a joke.
I wish that in itself was a joke, but it's not.

[SilverSolder]

He's not wrong but is not going to be popular this week. Sort of like when he started praising Trump 

Another classic example of how polarised people are and how they project things onto people.
Adam's didn't praise Trump back in the day, he merely analysed his speech and mannerisms and persuasive skills etc (he is educated in this field) and based on this predicted that Trump would win when no one was else predicting that. But because of Trump derangement syndrome, you aren't even allowed to discuss stuff like that or you are instantly branded a Trump supporter. He instantly lost almost all his speaking gigs as a result.
Nuance and rational discussion and analysis in anything is dead.

It seems to me that extreme polarisation is exaggerated when a country uses a two-party political system.

Each of the two parties normally try to cover the center as well as "their" side of the divide.  During times such as today when there is more polarisation, both parties leave the center ground barren and focus on their core supporters.  Meaning that "balanced" people have nobody to vote for...

This effect isn't quite as pronounced in countries that have multiple political parties and proportional representation.

[coppice]

He's not wrong but is not going to be popular this week. Sort of like when he started praising Trump 

Another classic example of how polarised people are and how they project things onto people.
Adam's didn't praise Trump back in the day, he merely analysed his speech and mannerisms and persuasive skills etc (he is educated in this field) and based on this predicted that Trump would win when no one was else predicting that. But because of Trump derangement syndrome, you aren't even allowed to discuss stuff like that or you are instantly branded a Trump supporter. He instantly lost almost all his speaking gigs as a result.
Nuance and rational discussion and analysis in anything is dead.

I think it a bit more than just an issue of nuanced discussion. A huge number of people confuse "is" with "ought". It has happened in this very thread. If you say something is going to happen you will usually be attacked by people claiming you are in favour of it happening.

[xrunner]

I know and I'm sorry. They should follow the NFL Redskins lead (bad word but I had to use it here) and rename the Masters (inappropriate word to use here) golf game.

But look - this is no joke! The EEVBlog forum it littereed with a certain bad word.

What are you going to do about this?

[Kjelt]

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But look - this is no joke! The EEVBlog forum it littereed with a certain bad word.
What are you going to do about this?

Ban anyone that complains is the easiest solution 

[Sal Ammoniac]

This thread is getting too tedious to bother with. I'm outa here and am going to go work on a SPI slave driver for STM32F7.

[themadhippy]

so when are the american single phase wiring colours getting changed,cant have active blacks and white neutrals,what about the whites who want to be active or the blacks who prefer to be neutral

[GeorgeOfTheJungle]

And why is GND always black and has a lower potential than any other colour?

[coppice]

And why is GND always black and has a lower potential than any other colour?

In US mains cables white is neutral and black is live.

[Syntax Error]

And why is GND always black and has a lower potential than any other colour?

That's true. And on the subject of color codes, 0 is black, 1 is brown, 4 is yellow and 9 is white. Which is why we have rainbow cable, so all of the electrons can play nice. I just hope modern schools are not teaching the same ryhme/mnemonic for the resistor color code that they did in my engineering class. Because that would be really bad. No REALLY bad.

[Sal Ammoniac]

I just hope modern schools are not teaching the same ryhme/mnemonic for the resistor color code that they did in my engineering class. Because that would be really bad. No REALLY bad.

What? Black boys rape our young girls but violet gives willingly? That's what we were taught, but in recent years it's become bad boys...