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Re: Is this true? Will americans be required to have microchips?
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2012, 09:41:44 pm »
 

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Re: Is this true? Will americans be required to have microchips?
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2012, 09:53:39 pm »
Fucking neocons will stop at nothing to instill fear. It's the only way they know to lead.
 

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Re: Is this true? Will americans be required to have microchips?
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2012, 09:55:17 pm »
Thanks. Good is a false news, I imagined in Brazil in some years having to wear a chip provided by the local government. Nightmare....
 

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Re: Is this true? Will americans be required to have microchips?
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2012, 10:00:33 pm »
You don't even need snopes.  This is simply a case of reading comprehension failure.  The article you linked to quotes the legal language they are concerned about at the bottom and it has nothing to do with what they are complaining about.  The quoted text simply does not state that anyone will required to get any kind implant.  The text (which apparently isn't actually part of the law) directs the government to maintain a database of implantable devices (like pacemakers, hip replacements, insulin monitors, etc.) to monitor their safety and efficacy.

It isn't like there aren't bad or stupid things the government does, there is no need to make shit up.  This is just a bunch of conspiracy theorist idiots with 2nd grade reading skills and a persecution complex a mile wide.

edit: @poptones: no need to get political, this are just crazy conspiracy theorists (which exist for almost any demonstrably false belief you can imagine), and at least these ones don't seem to be affiliated with any people that actually have any power.  Just batshit crazy people shouting at tje universe.
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Re: Is this true? Will americans be required to have microchips?
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2012, 10:30:43 pm »
How does someone who can't read, write a book?
 

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Re: Is this true? Will americans be required to have microchips?
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2012, 10:36:37 pm »
As an aside, seems they are now using palm scanners in US primary schools to pay for lunches:
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2012-10-02/news/bs-md-ca-school-scan-20121002_1_karen-sarno-lunches-scanner

The first thing that strikes me is, the spread of germs. Every single child putting their hand on a scanner at lunch time just before they eat, yeah, that's smart...  ::)

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Re: Is this true? Will americans be required to have microchips?
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2012, 10:59:14 pm »
OK, you can put on your tinfoil hats now...

What I don't like about the school lunch thing is these are children. Screw the privacy, it's not like the biometric data is being used to sell them gloves. It's that these are CHILDREN. Children, if anyone has seen the film Tideland, are incredibly adaptable and accept things around them as "normal." When these children grow up most are likely to see this as just another part of life, we use biometrics to "pay" for stuff from the government. It's not a nice world that establishes.

 

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Re: Is this true? Will americans be required to have microchips?
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2012, 05:47:43 am »
How does someone who can't read, write a book?
he told people who can write. first microchip, next is a clock showing how long you going to live.
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Re: Is this true? Will americans be required to have microchips?
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2012, 06:32:40 am »
I thought it was so,if your pet American went astray,the Council could check & send them home! ;D
 

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Re: Is this true? Will americans be required to have microchips?
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2012, 07:49:23 am »
As an aside, seems they are now using palm scanners in US primary schools to pay for lunches:
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2012-10-02/news/bs-md-ca-school-scan-20121002_1_karen-sarno-lunches-scanner

The first thing that strikes me is, the spread of germs. Every single child putting their hand on a scanner at lunch time just before they eat, yeah, that's smart...  ::)

Dave.

Gotta spend that money on anything other than educating children!
 

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Re: Is this true? Will americans be required to have microchips?
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2012, 08:06:39 am »
That is just the anti Obama and his health care for all crazies again, ie. the Democrats. having to call your party democrats is like the communists having to call their country the peoples democratic republic of whatever. The first thing you know from such titles is they are none of anything the title tries to imply.
 

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Re: Is this true? Will americans be required to have microchips?
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2012, 08:09:50 am »
That is just the anti Obama and his health care for all crazies again, ie. the Democrats. having to call your party democrats is like the communists having to call their country the peoples democratic republic of whatever. The first thing you know from such titles is they are none of anything the title tries to imply.

I like to keep free from politics frankly as both parties are a joke! Just like in the UK. I do dislike politicians quite a lot - but you have to vote for one, or your "vote will be wasted".
 

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Re: Is this true? Will americans be required to have microchips?
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2012, 09:54:45 am »
It's not just the people with 2nd grade reading skills ... The ones doing it are the freaking christians. Or so they say "New world order"
 

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Re: Is this true? Will americans be required to have microchips?
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2012, 10:00:48 am »
first microchip, next is a clock showing how long you going to live.

Only if you can afford healthcare, otherwise you'll die early.
Because, government healthcare is, you know, that evil socialism crap  ::)

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Re: Is this true? Will americans be required to have microchips?
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2012, 11:17:49 am »
Dave didn't Australia just get rid of that crap because it didn't work? Your government needs to have a talk with ours. Hopefully, our new president will get rid of it. I am scared of it myself.
 

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Re: Is this true? Will americans be required to have microchips?
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2012, 11:27:00 am »
Dave didn't Australia just get rid of that crap because it didn't work? Your government needs to have a talk with ours. Hopefully, our new president will get rid of it. I am scared of it myself.

Get rid of what?

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Re: Is this true? Will americans be required to have microchips?
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2012, 12:36:31 pm »
Dave didn't Australia just get rid of that crap because it didn't work? Your government needs to have a talk with ours. Hopefully, our new president will get rid of it. I am scared of it myself.

Gee, I don't know, but personally, I have a lot more fear of not having heath care myself. Mostly because at present, and for the first time in my life, I don't have any insurance. Right now, its a race between my being able to find a full-time job, Obamacare kicking in, and my dying of something really horrible and expensive. Not a good way to live.

Nobody ditches a national health care scheme. At least, no other industrial democracy other than they US would ever seriously contemplate such idiocy.
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Re: Is this true? Will americans be required to have microchips?
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2012, 01:17:30 pm »
Well, those "news" spread before elections by a site that is calling itself "Patriot Update" :D. Yepp, but I am sure there are lots of people who actually believe that stuff and switch to Mitt Romney.
Thank God...we will be saved ;)

Honestly, it is said to build a database and I suggest it would be like everywhere else: You get an ID and that may have an RFID.

I am pretty sure that implant thing may not be coming for a while. Pretty sure there would be law conflicts either (privacy, personal health).
 

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Re: Re: Is this true? Will americans be required to have microchips?
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2012, 01:43:31 pm »
As an aside, seems they are now using palm scanners in US primary schools to pay for lunches:
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2012-10-02/news/bs-md-ca-school-scan-20121002_1_karen-sarno-lunches-scanner

The first thing that strikes me is, the spread of germs. Every single child putting their hand on a scanner at lunch time just before they eat, yeah, that's smart...  ::)

Dave.

There is a dispenser of hand sanitizer at the entrance of my kids cafeteria they are required to sanitize while entering. They also have a pin they use to get their lunch.
 

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Re: Re: Is this true? Will americans be required to have microchips?
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2012, 01:53:12 pm »

There is a dispenser of hand sanitizer at the entrance of my kids cafeteria they are required to sanitize while entering. They also have a pin they use to get their lunch.

At least someone had a thought there (compared to the palm scanner), but high use of sanitizers make have the effect that the amount of resistant germs and so on is increasing (adaption).
So best would be to keep some basic hygienic rules (like don't grab in your neighbors meal/mouth, wash your hands, don't play with dog-shit) and of course by the staff as they serve all.
I don't use our cafeteria (prefer to cook on my own), but I know they are just using transponders and serve you the meal. Wasn't a problem until now....

We have a mandatory healthcare since decades and it works (but is getting stripped down more and more). Well, you don't have covered that much as before, but the important parts are there. Surgeries, Medical treatments, Therapies and so on.
You may shout that it is expensive and so on, but I bet you think otherwise if you need a surgery and can't pay it because it is too expensive.
So all in all: A Healthcare system isn't the dumbest idea ever. You may not need it now, but we all get older (at least I hope so).

 

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Re: Is this true? Will americans be required to have microchips?
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2012, 01:55:24 pm »
My Windows 7 machine has been nagging me for weeks that it could not register, I need to enter a valid product key. So I enter the one THEY EMAILED ME. It tells me it cannot activate, enter a valid product key. I give up and use windows for those few unbearable minutes I need it. Week later, I turn the VM on, same thing. Week later, same story. Finally it tells me I have five days or my computer is going to blow up or something. So I try to use their activation software, it tells me to call a number but doesn't tell me the number. Finally I go to the damn email Microsoft sent me with the product key THEY SENT ME that apparently is invalid, I lie my way through the stupid voice message system and get to talk to some lady in india who likes to talk while I am talking.

First she tells me, after getting my first name and my email address, that she has to put me on hold for a minute to help me. I ask her what exactly she is going to do to help me when she has absolutely no information about me or my system. Oh that's right, so what is your product key. So then I have to read this stupid 40 character string of gobbledeygook to her after which she puts me on hold. The she comes back, tells me that IS A VALID KEY and she has no idea why my shit windows won't activate. Then I get to open this applet that gives me an even LONGER string of numbers which I must read off, then she returns me an equally long string of 45 freaking numbers. Finally, she assures me, it is activated. I ask her why I had to do this, she says she doesn't know. I ask her am I going to have to do this every time she says no but I WILL HAVE TO DO IT EVERY YEAR.

Most people use this shit software. If they will put up with this nonsense, RFID implants and hand scanners for free lunch are a walk in the park - they're a "convenience."

I fucking hate Microsoft's software, and more and more I am hating that anyone tolerates this nonsense. This shit is indoctrinating society into becoming numbers in a vast machine of consumerism.

Fuck Windows.
 

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Re: Is this true? Will americans be required to have microchips?
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2012, 03:09:59 pm »
first microchip, next is a clock showing how long you going to live.

Only if you can afford healthcare, otherwise you'll die early.
Because, government healthcare is, you know, that evil socialism crap  ::)

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Re: Is this true? Will americans be required to have microchips?
« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2012, 03:57:05 pm »
You are welcome to try out our healthcare system..........
 

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Re: Is this true? Will americans be required to have microchips?
« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2012, 04:11:25 pm »
Dave didn't Australia just get rid of that crap because it didn't work? Your government needs to have a talk with ours. Hopefully, our new president will get rid of it. I am scared of it myself.

Get rid of what?

Dave.

Didn't Australia have government run healthcare? I may be wrong but I was thinking they got rid of it because it didn't work! I don't live there so I have no idea.
 


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