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Offline Monkeh

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Re: I need a new podcast host
« Reply #75 on: July 09, 2013, 06:44:11 pm »
Only a fool would chew up a few hundred MB of expensive mobile internet bandwidth to watch a single hour long youtube video while on the move.

I get unlimited transfer on my phone.

One could say only a fool would assume all providers rip off their customers equally.
 

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Re: I need a new podcast host
« Reply #76 on: July 10, 2013, 11:23:46 pm »
Only a fool would chew up a few hundred MB of expensive mobile internet bandwidth to watch a single hour long youtube video while on the move.

I get unlimited transfer on my phone.

One could say only a fool would assume all providers rip off their customers equally.

everybody gets ripped off by their providers, just in other ways.

most "unlimited" plans let you transfer X amount of data at full speed, then throttle you down for the remainder of your billing period. a "FAIR USEAGE" clause if you will.

I would be surprised if your company didn't do this to you, even if your plan does not specify throttling will occur.
 

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Re: I need a new podcast host
« Reply #77 on: July 10, 2013, 11:26:19 pm »
Only a fool would chew up a few hundred MB of expensive mobile internet bandwidth to watch a single hour long youtube video while on the move.

I get unlimited transfer on my phone.

One could say only a fool would assume all providers rip off their customers equally.

everybody gets ripped off by their providers, just in other ways.

most "unlimited" plans let you transfer X amount of data at full speed, then throttle you down for the remainder of your billing period. a "FAIR USEAGE" clause if you will.

I would be surprised if your company didn't do this to you, even if your plan does not specify throttling will occur.

I haven't reached that point and I've on occasion pulled more than 10GB in a day. We aren't all stuck with the services found in certain countries.

Now, roaming, that is a ripoff..
 

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Re: I need a new podcast host
« Reply #78 on: July 11, 2013, 09:25:50 am »
(Already posted condensed on the blog, but this is a better place to discuss)

OK, here my thoughts about the topic: I understand your hassle with local hosting but still think this is a step backwards. You would move away from a open, more or less decentral system with documented protocols to some properitary, only sparse supported platform. In fact swtiching to YouTube would - in the first place - prevent me from viewing your Videos. Usually i let my phone download the videos over night via WiFi so i can watch them locally the next morning on public transport. Longer videos i watch on my TV which streams them based on the RSS.

Yes, there is a RSS-Feed (ish) thing on YouTube, but this is just text with a link to the YouTube website - no embedded file, no valid video podcast and as such not useable in many programs (yes, some do, but YT is constantly changing their site which breakes this feature). Also keep in mind: Google already dropped RSS in most of their products so i would not rely on this interface. And yes, there are ways to download from youtube, but its a PITA to automate and only supported on a small number of systems (mostly just on PCs) - i guess neither my mobile phone nor my TV would support this.

And yes, a lot of (video) podcasts also dropped their hosting - i stopped following most of them because i simply can not use their new streaming solutions on my devices and it is too labor-intensive to keep up manually. I only hacked something together for a few of them, but most remaining in my list are the Revision3 and CCC ones which still serve files.

In the end its of course your decision and since your content is worth it i would take the hassle and set up a local mirror of your files grabbed from YT to regain access from my phone/TV but i still think its a step backwards for the "open internet".
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Re: I need a new podcast host
« Reply #79 on: July 11, 2013, 12:58:58 pm »
But do you have any suggestions of how to solve the problem of a ridiculous amount of traffic without breaking the bank?
 

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Re: I need a new podcast host
« Reply #80 on: July 19, 2013, 09:59:23 pm »
have seen that the itunes feed is up and runing but is not having the new videos put on it will the itunes ever be updated again :wtf:
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Re: I need a new podcast host
« Reply #81 on: September 28, 2013, 02:57:49 am »
Note to Dave or the creator of the XBMC EEVblog app.

Please switch the RSS feed source to the youtube feed.  The EEVblog app on my RaspBMC is recently (~4 months) going to crap.  The youtube app always has the most recent videos lately.  Certain episodes in the current app show up with a description yet will not play.   There is also a huge delay in the new videos showing up in the EEVblog app, sometime days it seems.

Dave you look great on the 60" LCD TV.  Having to dick around with the youtube app is a shame as the EEVblog app is super simple to navigate thought the TV compared to the youtube app.
 

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Re: I need a new podcast host
« Reply #82 on: September 28, 2013, 03:11:13 am »
I don't know anything about the XBMC app, it's not mine and have never used it.
 

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Re: I need a new podcast host
« Reply #83 on: September 28, 2013, 02:55:41 pm »
I follow Jason Scott on twitter (@textfiles) and the other day he was looking for people who wanted to host their stuff with the Internet Archive. He specifically mentioned podcasts. May want to see what he has to offer?
 

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Re: I need a new podcast host
« Reply #84 on: September 28, 2013, 03:04:31 pm »
They would have to be released under a permissive license (open source, creative commons, permission to freely to distribute etc)... and that Jason Scott is a scumbag, I've dealt with him in the past and he's bringing down the relatively good name of Internet Archive.

I'm paying about 100$ a month for a dedicated server with 100 mbps unmetered bandwidth (30TB a month) for years now. Costs the same to have 10 TB a month on a 1 gbps port. Complaining about bandwidth is just stupid these days.
 

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Re: I need a new podcast host
« Reply #85 on: September 28, 2013, 07:09:53 pm »
dedicated server with 100 mbps unmetered bandwidth (30TB a month)
Complaining about bandwidth is just stupid these days.

unmetered 30TB? and you call other people stupid? :)
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Re: I need a new podcast host
« Reply #86 on: September 28, 2013, 07:24:37 pm »
A computer connected to a 100 mbps switch port can transfer about 30-33 TB within a month in both directions.

100 mbps = 100.000.000 bits / 8 bits = 12,500,000 bytes /s  = 12.207 KB/s = 11.92 MB/s 

11.92 MB/s

x 3600s in an hour = 42,912 MB 
x 24 hours in a day = 1,029,888 MB 
x 31 days in a month = 31,926,528 MB   = 31,178.25 GB =  30.44 TB

Realistically, with TCP/IP overhead, data packets and so on, you can expect about 28-29 TB of real data transfers  in a month.

So what I was saying is that the dedicated server I rent is unmetered but the switch it's connected to has a 100 mbps port. Hence the 30 TB figure.  If I want to I can ask to have the server moved to a 1 gbps port, but I'd pay extra if I go over 10 TB a month.

Here's a bandwidth graph:





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Re: I need a new podcast host
« Reply #87 on: September 29, 2013, 02:05:18 am »
yeah im the stupid one :o
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=100mbps+*++month

still if they charge above 10TB I suspect they will throttle if you cross it on 100mbit
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Re: I need a new podcast host
« Reply #88 on: September 29, 2013, 04:44:24 am »
No, I've had months when I had a sustained 60-80 mbps for weeks.

A company buys bandwidth for around 0.8-1$ a megabit, in volume... let's say $900 for 1 gbps 95 percentile. But keep in mind this company has servers in a large European datacenter and a large percent of the traffic is passed through free peering links with various other European datacenters so that traffic is almost free.
It's easy to put 30-35 servers in a 42U rack with a switch linked to the core router through a 2gbps (pair of standard 1gbps cables) or a 10 gbps fiber.
The company can give 10 TB on 1 gbps for the same price as 100 mbps unmetered because the user would know to be careful not to push 1 gbps all the time (10 TB is basically an average of 30 mbps throughout the month), the excess is something like 1-2$ per 10 GB or something like that (unless you mail them and choose to pay something like 30$ for extra 20 TB).

The real 1gbps unmetered links (330 TB a month) are about 400-600$ a month for bandwidth alone at this company. It's a gamble on their part, they gamble a large percent won't saturate their gigabit links and eat into their profit. For such bandwidth usage, you'd need a server with good I/O so that means either lots of RAM, or lots of drives, or SSD drives.. and renting such server cost money and have a higher profit margin compared to cheaper servers.

They offer (or used to offer a few months ago) some cheaper 1 gbps unmetered links for around 2-300$ a month but you have to agree not to rent such servers and use them for some particular cases like CDN, radio streaming, youtube style sites etc because the uplink can be saturated easily and if you push 1gbps for long time it affects other servers in the rack. On average, you get 200-500 mbps at any time, so it's still good value for money if you need a server that has occasional bursts of traffic (for example Dave posting a new video every few days, or the amphour show, or pushing a patch for a free software you develop etc etc)

Hosting your own podcasts on such server or offering the youtube video collection to download etc would totally be OK.

ps. If anyone cares the company is Swiftway ... the offers on their sites aren't that great, see the WHT offers here if anyone's curious :  http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1306222&highlight=swiftway
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