How is Chipageddon affecting you?

[Bud]

@ SiliconWizard
That link does not represent an authoritative source. Just someone's fantasy.

[Bud]

And the reality is the Taiwanese engineers, researchers, staff etc would be needed to run them and they would either refuse or they would sabotage work.  .

This is another fantasy. Last time i checkef, Taiwan was an island. Growing rice is great job but likely much less paid then being an engineer in semiconductor indistry.

[bdunham7]

How come none of them choose to lose their American citizenship ?

Some of them could choose to voluntarily renounce their US citizenship if they don't intend to return, but that is an involved and expensive process.  There is no general legal process for involuntarily revoking citizenship, although there are rarely used denaturalization processes for cases where citizenship was obtained by fraud or something close to it.  A natural-born US citizen can only have their citizenship revoked by execution. 

[MT]

Former Cypress CEO weighs in on U.S. chip export restrictions from China oct 14 2022.


Former Cypress semiconductor CEO on the global chip shortage in 2021 blames car manufacturers for it.

[MT]

CGTN CCP international TV with 4 Chinese dudes complains about president Xidens bans.

[Ed.Kloonk]

Be wary of (some of) these doomsday youtubers.

[MT]

Be wary of (some of) these doomsday youtubers.

Which one?

[Ed.Kloonk]

Be wary of (some of) these doomsday youtubers.

Which one?

Sorry. I didn't speak very well. Your ones you posted are fine. But following y/t recommended on this subject eventually leads to one of the clickbait-y doomsday rubbish. When you look at their video playlist, the video titles are the same immanent disaster nonsense. The sky is (not) falling. 

[SiliconWizard]

China back to stone age? Who is going back to stone age fast here? Seriously.

[tom66]

This is another fantasy. Last time i checkef, Taiwan was an island. Growing rice is great job but likely much less paid then being an engineer in semiconductor indistry.

It's not a fantasy and you only need a few percent of staff to sabotage enough work in progress to make the factory unviable.

The Taiwanese identity is very strong, and the rejection of China is very strong too. 

The TSMC staff would need to be replaced with Chinese staff who haven't any idea how to operate the equipment.  TSMC is dead if Taiwan is invaded, as simple as that really.

[Bud]

Do i need to tell what punishment is typically practiced for sabotage in war time? No Che Guevaras are going to line up in Taiwan for it.  They can reject though, yes, until cows come home. And feed their families with political manifests until they are full.
And by the way, stopping admitting foreign students to western Unis would be way more effective measure.

[coppice]

And by the way, stopping admitting foreign students to western Unis would be way more effective measure.

They spend too much money to throw them out.

[Ed.Kloonk]

And by the way, stopping admitting foreign students to western Unis would be way more effective measure.

They spend too much money to throw them out.

Oh yeah. Our lockdown rules got twisted around more than a Russian gymnast.

[Kasper]

On the subject of sabotage, this seems to be an example of people thinking they can get away with serious crimes at work.

Ex-Qualcomm VP charged with fraud for hiding role in microchip startup the tech giant bought for $150 million

If convicted, the four charged each face a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison; fines of $250,000 or twice their gain for the fraud charges.

[b_force]

On the subject of sabotage, here is an example of people thinking they can get away with serious crimes at work.

Ex-Qualcomm VP charged with fraud for hiding role in microchip startup the tech giant bought for $150 million

If convicted, the four charged each face a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison; fines of $250,000 or twice their gain for the fraud charges.

We don't know that yet, it very clearly says "IF convicted".
We can only speak if crimes were made after the verdict.

[Kasper]

On the subject of sabotage, here is an example of people thinking they can get away with serious crimes at work.

Ex-Qualcomm VP charged with fraud for hiding role in microchip startup the tech giant bought for $150 million

If convicted, the four charged each face a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison; fines of $250,000 or twice their gain for the fraud charges.

We don't know that yet, it very clearly says "IF convicted".
We can only speak if crimes were made after the verdict.

Yes it is clear.  I didn't think it needed to be described.  I'll change:

"Here is an example"

To

"This seems to be an example"

[MT]

BEIJING (CAIXIN GLOBAL) - Remember the global semiconductor shortage a few months ago? It’s over.
Now, quickly shrinking demand for consumer electronics is causing cancelled orders and unsold stockpiles at makers of integrated circuits including Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co (TSMC)
Advanced Micro Devices Inc (AMD) and Nvidia.

It’s a stark contrast with the disruptions that chip shortages caused for makers of autos, smartphones, computers and other goods that rely on the advanced electronic devices.
“This round of business sentiment is reversing so fast that chip designers were struggling to find production capacity only last year, but now they find chips won’t sell,” said analyst
Xie Ruifeng from semiconductor industry market research institute ICwise.

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/the-sudden-reversal-of-the-global-chip-shortage

[fourfathom]

unsold stockpiles at makers of integrated circuits including Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co (TSMC)l]

Since TSMC is a contract manufacturer of ICs, aren't the customers that use TSMC obligated to pay for the parts they had TSMC make for them?  Or is this article just talking about stockpiles not delivered to the customer (at the customers request)?  If I understand this, TSMC may be in trouble due to slowdown in orders, but that's not the same thing as TSMC having "unsold stockpiles" of  already-manufactured chips.

[RoGeorge]

Calling engineers back to USA doesn't make any sense, unless it was made as preparation for an imminent war.

Saying this because a few days ago the minister of the Romanian defense has resigned, for the reason that he can not collaborate any longer with the Romanian president which is also the supreme commander of the Romanian army.  The now resigned former minister was advocating for peace.  Meanwhile, an elite USA attack division, 101 Screaming Eagles (about 5000 US military) are doing exercises in Romania, plus more NATO troops in Romania, from France.  Romania has common border with Ukraine.  Meanwhile Russia announced it finalized its first stage of general mobilization of 300 000 new recruits.

I didn't follow the news for a couple of weeks, and yesterday learned about the resignation of a minister that was advocating for peace, and today I learn about the calling home of US chip specialists.  I'm very worried about all these.

[coppice]

unsold stockpiles at makers of integrated circuits including Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co (TSMC)l]

Since TSMC is a contract manufacturer of ICs, aren't the customers that use TSMC obligated to pay for the parts they had TSMC make for them?  Or is this article just talking about stockpiles not delivered to the customer (at the customers request)?  If I understand this, TSMC may be in trouble due to slowdown in orders, but that's not the same thing as TSMC having "unsold stockpiles" of  already-manufactured chips.

You are basically right. TSMC makes nothing for itself. Everything they produce is as a direct result of an order. How could it be otherwise in pure contract manufacturing? Their issues would arise if a lot of customers went under before they could pay; they have over ordered raw materials in the expectation of high production (e.g. raw wafers); and if their fabs start aging through a period of low demand, and switch from high value fabs to low value fabs before they are amortised. Overall they are one of the riskiest positions in the industry, but not from problems of overstocked products they can't sell.

[BravoV]

Saying this because a few days ago the minister of the Romanian defense has resigned, for the reason that he can not collaborate any longer with the Romanian president which is also the supreme commander of the Romanian army.  The now resigned former minister was advocating for peace.  Meanwhile, an elite USA attack division, 101 Screaming Eagles (about 5000 US military) are doing exercises in Romania, plus more NATO troops in Romania, from France.  Romania has common border with Ukraine.  Meanwhile Russia announced it finalized its first stage of general mobilization of 300 000 new recruits.

I didn't follow the news for a couple of weeks, and yesterday learned about the resignation of a minister that was advocating for peace, and today I learn about the calling home of US chip specialists.  I'm very worried about all these.

US government doesn't think twice about starting wars, even nuke ones on foreign lands as long as it doesn't occur on American soil.

To Washington, you are all (allies) are just collateral damages. 

[KE5FX]

Calling engineers back to USA doesn't make any sense, unless it was made as preparation for an imminent war.

Saying this because a few days ago the minister of the Romanian defense has resigned, for the reason that he can not collaborate any longer with the Romanian president which is also the supreme commander of the Romanian army.  The now resigned former minister was advocating for peace.  Meanwhile, an elite USA attack division, 101 Screaming Eagles (about 5000 US military) are doing exercises in Romania, plus more NATO troops in Romania, from France.  Romania has common border with Ukraine.  Meanwhile Russia announced it finalized its first stage of general mobilization of 300 000 new recruits.

I didn't follow the news for a couple of weeks, and yesterday learned about the resignation of a minister that was advocating for peace, and today I learn about the calling home of US chip specialists.  I'm very worried about all these.

But what does "advocating for peace" mean, exactly?  Arguing about exactly how much of somebody else's land should be ceded to an invader in exchange for troop withdrawal?

[tom66]

We just managed to buy some Bosch IMUs   Truly the end-times are here when those are coming back into stock...

[AndyC_772]

BEIJING (CAIXIN GLOBAL) - Remember the global semiconductor shortage a few months ago? It’s over.

Over? Really? So if I send you my BoM, I can have the parts (all of them!) on my desk next week, can I?

Wake me up when STM32F<anything> is back in stock. Brand new parts that nobody is using, and tiny chip scale packages that are virtually impossible to handle, don't count.

[exe]

Hi there,

I'm hobbyist, was out of the hobby for the last six months or so, so didn't follow the news. I'm surprised that chippageddon is still a thing. I'd expect production to eventually catch up with the demand, but it seems it's not the case. Why is that? Factories don't want to expand to keep their profit margins high? Raw material problems? Demand for electronics is too high?