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Offline zapta

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Offline ccs46Topic starter

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Thanks.

Most of us will be able to sense this electro magnetic energy


Because it's not the beam you are feeling, the beam heats up the water molecules in your skin, it creates that intense warming feeling, similar to opening a oven door.
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It is in her head, if she thinks she has it, she will continue to believe she has it.

Don't blind yourself to alternate hypotheses. Self-delusion/mental illness is certainly one plausible explanation. Some other undiagnosed, or even as yet unidentified, condition is another. Medical science doesn't have everything figured out yet, and medical training often leads to ruling out the unlikely even when other explanations aren't forthcoming.

A while back there was a guy in Seattle who started wasting away. Doctors were clueless. He was persistent. After a considerable time, someone said "sound like lyme disease." It was, contracted on a visit to the east coast, but only manifesting after he returned home. Had he seen a doctor on the east coast, he would likely have been properly diagnosed in short order.
 

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It is in her head, if she thinks she has it, she will continue to believe she has it.

Don't blind yourself to alternate hypotheses. Self-delusion/mental illness is certainly one plausible explanation. Some other undiagnosed, or even as yet unidentified, condition is another. Medical science doesn't have everything figured out yet, and medical training often leads to ruling out the unlikely even when other explanations aren't forthcoming.

A while back there was a guy in Seattle who started wasting away. Doctors were clueless. He was persistent. After a considerable time, someone said "sound like lyme disease." It was, contracted on a visit to the east coast, but only manifesting after he returned home. Had he seen a doctor on the east coast, he would likely have been properly diagnosed in short order.
As others have said, shes likely under the nocebo effect, Someone could make her admit and believe almost anything if you gave them enough time.
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100mA would be detrimental to any ones health especially if routed through the heart.
 

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If only you could find one of the people claiming to be allergic to radio to sit down an EMC test room and actually put some science to it.

Although I do not think there are any immediate effects caused by daily used low power electromagnetic fields, it should not be neglected as harmless in the long term. We've only exposed the younger generations to a higher dose of electromagnetic fields over the last few decades.
 

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Istr a while ago a community started complaining of symptoms when a new antenna tower was installed, but it turned out it hadn't been turned on!

There is an opposite to the Placebo effect that can be just as powerful.
People fear what they don't understand, and lack of education, sloppy journalism and religion just make things worse.
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Having met quite a few people with "modern living chemical allergies" unfortunately many do fit in the nocebo category. The 'allergy' often crosses many widely different chemical groups and is often precipitated by some well noticed 'initiating event' e.g. Sick Building Syndrome and, unlike most identifiable allergies e.g. peanuts, beestings where they typically only notice the first allergic response not the sensitising exposure/s.
Medical science is far from complete , especially in matters of the mind.
Please note the "nocebo effect' is NOT malingering. In malingering it is a conscious act, nocebo it is subconscious.
Many illnesses can also be 'societally defined' e.g. Neurathenia' in the 1800s and Repetitive Strain Injury 'epidemics' in the 1980s.
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If only you could find one of the people claiming to be allergic to radio to sit down an EMC test room and actually put some science to it.
From this related article and what else I've read it seems they absolutely refuse to be tested. |O
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Although I do not think there are any immediate effects caused by daily used low power electromagnetic fields, it should not be neglected as harmless in the long term. We've only exposed the younger generations to a higher dose of electromagnetic fields over the last few decades.
Actually I think the dose of EM fields long ago, near the beginning of the radio era, was much, much higher than today.
 

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But 700 kHz has not the heating effect on water that 2.4 GHz has. We're also completely surrounded by 50/60Hz fields for a long time.
 


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