Earth 2.0 discovered?

[firewalker]

http://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-kepler-mission-discovers-bigger-older-cousin-to-earth

Alexander.

[mtdoc]

Woo Hoo! A potential new world to escape to!

[firewalker]

Alexander.

[SeanB]

Are we taking the telephone handset sanitisers along in the ship as well?

[Mechanical Menace]

More like we're on Kepler-452b v 1.5 cost reduced edition.

[dr.diesel]

No thanks, since it's older than our Earth, will be full of even more filth and free loaders.

[retrolefty]

1,600 light years away, guess they would have to pack a lunch to get there. 

[Mephitus]

Are we taking the telephone handset sanitisers along in the ship as well?

I thought we where all leaving because of a mega-donkey that was going to, I dont know, eat us or something terrible like that?
Or maybe its like my wife tells me, in that its doomed or something. Oh well, back to my market research to see if people want fire that can be inserted nasaly

[mtdoc]

1,600 light years away

Damn. I guess we better get working on that warp drive then, because the state of charge of our current battery is not looking good.

[dr.diesel]

The article states 1400 light years.  So even at warp 9.9 using the original series calc it would take 527 days to get there.   

[SeanB]

No thanks, since it's older than our Earth, will be full of even more filth and free loaders.

We can sell them shiny beads and TB loaded blankets though.............

[Zero999]

1,600 light years away, guess they would have to pack a lunch to get there. 

If the spacecraft can travel fast enough, that won't be a problem. Thanks to time dilation it should be possible to cover that distance within a human life time, in the frame of reference of the spacecraft of course.

[firewalker]

It is warp drive. The spacecraft remains still. Also, according to Star Trek TNG, the warp speed is not linear. Warp 9.9 could be around 1000 times the speed of light, if I am not mistaken.

Alexander.

[dr.diesel]

Also, according to Star Trek TNG, the warp speed is not linear.

Using the TNG calc it would take 78 days to travel 1400 light years.

EDIT:  ^ at warp 9.9

[JackP]

Sorry, but doesn't time slow down as you approach the speed of light, thus one can never exceed it?

[tom66]

Sorry, but doesn't time slow down as you approach the speed of light, thus one can never exceed it?

Yes, and mass increases towards infinity, as does kinetic energy ...

The only way (according to current physics) to travel faster than the speed of light would be to physically warp space (aka warp drive) ... this isn't really travelling faster than light but instead manipulating the universe to make the distance traveled shorter. See also: wormholes.

[Zero999]

Sorry, but doesn't time slow down as you approach the speed of light, thus one can never exceed it?

Yes but that's also why travelling huge distances would be possible if a spacecraft to reach near the speed of light, without exceeding it.

[JackP]

Fair point - although who knows what might be left back home when you return...

[zapta]

Earth 2.0 is a major regression from 1.0.  Should go back to the drawing board.

[Mechanical Menace]

Also, according to Star Trek TNG, the warp speed is not linear.

Using the TNG calc it would take 78 days to travel 1400 light years.

EDIT:  ^ at warp 9.9

TNG had warp 10 as a sort of "speed of light" though, whereas TOS could go over warp 11!!!!!!

The only way (according to current physics) to travel faster than the speed of light would be to physically warp space (aka warp drive) ... this isn't really travelling faster than light but instead manipulating the universe to make the distance traveled shorter. See also: wormholes.

No, not at all. "Warp drives" move the space-time around the ship itself, the "warp bubble" would indeed move faster than light*, the vessel would just remainn stationary within that area of space-time. Wormholes would actually decrease he distance, but through a totally different mechanism.



*There's no known speed limit for space-time, hence expansion.

[Deathwish]

I'm staying here, there's an extra 20 days a year there that management will make you work.

[Mechanical Menace]

I'm staying here, there's an extra 20 days a year there that management will make you work.

You never know, the UK has a serious lack of public holidays. They might let you take one of those 20 extra days off.

[Deathwish]

MM if you believe that you will believe the moon is made of cheese, when have management ever given days of to the masses, or do I read too much Dickens ?.

[miguelvp]

No, not at all. "Warp drives" move the space-time around the ship itself, the "warp bubble" would indeed move faster than light*, the vessel would just remainn stationary within that area of space-time. Wormholes would actually decrease he distance, but through a totally different mechanism.



*There's no known speed limit for space-time, hence expansion.

The "warp bubble" doesn't move, you form it, travel a bit to reach the end of the bubble, collapse, reform, repeat.

[Mechanical Menace]

The "warp bubble" doesn't move, you form it, travel a bit to reach the end of the bubble, collapse, reform, repeat.

Nah that wouldn't be warp drive as we think of it. The space-time within the warp bubble you purpose would have to have different physics from normal space-time to allow you travel at faster than light within it for that to get you around any faster than you could otherwise. Acceleration could be easier though.

MM if you believe that you will believe the moon is made of cheese, when have management ever given days of to the masses, or do I read too much Dickens ?.

I was actually thinking they may need an extra leap day once every 17 years. That's the extra day off