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Gloves for smartphones - conductive bits?
« on: February 26, 2018, 12:15:30 pm »
Hiya all,

Here in the UK we're about to encounter a cold snap in the weather with what is hilariously called "The beast from the East" (yea, we complain bitterly that the temp could drop to double digit temps below freezing).

Anyhow, my wife has a pair of leather gloves that she can use on her smartphone screen, and I have a cheap woollen ones that can do the same.

There is nothing obvious in either pairs of gloves that show conductive bits, so I'm wondering how they work, or how they are made.

Also I wonder if ordinary gloves can be modified to be able to work with smartphones?

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Re: Gloves for smartphones - conductive bits?
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2018, 12:17:55 pm »
I have had some gloves that can conduct just enough through some materials to make contact. I guess it would depend on how porous the material is, or perhaps they have just put something conductive, but not visible on the gloves.

Personally, I just take my gloves off. They are high visibility ones that are good enough for dealing with snow (where I live I normally even use sneakers in snow, because who gives a damn) and I can whip them on and off in a few moments.
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Re: Gloves for smartphones - conductive bits?
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2018, 01:09:01 pm »
Depends on whether the "touch" is resistive or capacitive.

Resistive needs conductivity.  Capacitive just needs something conductive that's close enough.
 

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Re: Gloves for smartphones - conductive bits?
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2018, 01:17:07 pm »
I'm guessing that smartphones have capacitative touch sensitivity as you can still use one in a plastic food bag (a good trick to use your phone in the rain, by the way!).
 

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Re: Gloves for smartphones - conductive bits?
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2018, 01:17:59 pm »
Depends on whether the "touch" is resistive or capacitive.

Resistive needs conductivity.  Capacitive just needs something conductive that's close enough.

Actually resistive touchscreens are the most versatile and can detect any sufficiently pointy object regardless of its material. The resistive layer is on the inside of the screen where the pressure of the touch causes it to come in contact with another resistive layer. The layers resistance is then used much like a potenciometer to determine the location of the touch.

Capacitive are the picky ones, they need something that's at least slightly conductive and also pretty large to provide enough capacitive surface area. Not many objects apart from fingers fulfill that critetia
 

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Re: Gloves for smartphones - conductive bits?
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2018, 01:20:05 pm »
I sit corrected.



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Re: Gloves for smartphones - conductive bits?
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2018, 01:25:54 pm »
I take my laptop into the bath, I though that's what everybody did...

Then again my laptop is a Prescott Celeron, so if I did that, it would probably boil the water.
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Re: Gloves for smartphones - conductive bits?
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2018, 02:36:56 pm »
I take my laptop into the bath, I though that's what everybody did...

I used to take my Vaio in the bath but these days I settle for the iPad.
 

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Re: Gloves for smartphones - conductive bits?
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2018, 02:43:45 pm »
Do you wear conductive gloves in the bath too?
 

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Re: Gloves for smartphones - conductive bits?
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2018, 02:57:06 pm »
Do you wear conductive gloves in the bath too?

No, I wear nitrile gloves for special purposes.
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Re: Gloves for smartphones - conductive bits?
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2018, 06:28:26 pm »
Hiya all,

Here in the UK we're about to encounter a cold snap in the weather with what is hilariously called "The beast from the East" (yea, we complain bitterly that the temp could drop to double digit temps below freezing).

Anyhow, my wife has a pair of leather gloves that she can use on her smartphone screen, and I have a cheap woollen ones that can do the same.

There is nothing obvious in either pairs of gloves that show conductive bits, so I'm wondering how they work, or how they are made.

Also I wonder if ordinary gloves can be modified to be able to work with smartphones?

Trys

there are normally a few conductive fibers woven in, it doesn't take much to make them work. I wouldn't be surprised if there are also fabric coatings that could make them conductive enough

i found you can often make normal gloves work on touch screens if you just dampen the end of the finger by just dabbing it on your tongue before you use it

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Re: Gloves for smartphones - conductive bits?
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2018, 12:05:28 am »
Do you wear conductive gloves in the bath too?
No, I wear nitrile gloves for special purposes.

I really don't want to know what those "special purposes" are ;-)
 

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Re: Gloves for smartphones - conductive bits?
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2018, 12:33:51 am »
Do you wear conductive gloves in the bath too?
No, I wear nitrile gloves for special purposes.

I really don't want to know what those "special purposes" are ;-)

I mean I just think it's a good idea to clear out my drains while taking a bath, get all the gunk out. I don't like doing it with my bare hands.  ^-^
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Re: Gloves for smartphones - conductive bits?
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2018, 10:07:05 am »
Thank you for your interesting replies!

After a little experimenting with bits of kitchen foil under the gloves and even poking little bits of wire through the weave of a very cheap pair of gloves, I have found Dexter's tip to work easiest - dampening the end of the finger works very well, and for a surprisingly long time (a couple of hours).


I've also found there is a whole host of conductive fabrics out there which I'll try and convince my wife to buy some of next time she's buying fabric and materials of that sort.

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