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Re: Digi-Key has changed and it is not very good
« Reply #175 on: November 13, 2020, 06:46:17 pm »
So... did they revert all the changes?
Why would they?At least in the US nothing has changed.
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Re: Digi-Key has changed and it is not very good
« Reply #176 on: November 13, 2020, 06:49:38 pm »
Nope, not here anyway... 

It's still the same stupid, new "let's beta test all this, live on our users" interface here...   :palm:
 

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Re: Digi-Key has changed and it is not very good
« Reply #177 on: November 13, 2020, 07:32:50 pm »
Yep, it came back to me now as well. Strange. Have been working with DK the whole day and was rather enthusiastic. Meh.
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Re: Digi-Key has changed and it is not very good
« Reply #178 on: November 13, 2020, 07:36:23 pm »
So... did they revert all the changes? Stupid marketplace is gone, search is back to normal and all options get shown completely expanded from the beginning on, and I get the impression its WAY quicker again.
Could it realy be that they trusted their users? If so - I am very pleased!
Did they ever roll out the new interface to Germany? digikey.ch, for example, has not gotten it at all.
 

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Re: Digi-Key has changed and it is not very good
« Reply #179 on: November 13, 2020, 07:38:43 pm »
Its way quicker for me now too. However, I still see the marketplace option.. though, at this point I dont see any bugs that I have been having..
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Re: Digi-Key has changed and it is not very good
« Reply #180 on: November 13, 2020, 08:00:57 pm »
Did they ever roll out the new interface to Germany? digikey.ch, for example, has not gotten it at all.

Yep, have seen it before, then it was gone, now its back :/
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Re: Digi-Key has changed and it is not very good
« Reply #181 on: November 13, 2020, 08:23:42 pm »
Looks like a variation of the new interface here (east US).  But the performance has been improved dramatically - no worse than the old site with what I tried, and maybe better.  Also, each row in the results takes up less space than last time I tried it. Progress!

The only irritation I have left is - why limit the number of rows displayed to 100?  It used to be much higher, if I remember correctly...   something like 250 or 500.  In any event - if anyone from DK is reading this - is it possible to up the limit?   If you have a modern desktop PC, it saves time to just be able to load everything into one page, especially if the performance of the sorting/selection code is now good.

 

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Re: Digi-Key has changed and it is not very good
« Reply #182 on: November 13, 2020, 11:03:35 pm »
The only irritation I have left is - why limit the number of rows displayed to 100?  It used to be much higher, if I remember correctly...   something like 250 or 500.  In any event - if anyone from DK is reading this - is it possible to up the limit?   If you have a modern desktop PC, it saves time to just be able to load everything into one page, especially if the performance of the sorting/selection code is now good.
That's planned in the near-ish term.
 
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Re: Digi-Key has changed and it is not very good
« Reply #183 on: November 13, 2020, 11:35:18 pm »
And get rid of the need to click the show more filters button every time, OMG that is aggravating. Does whoever is working on the website actually not realize that the default set of filters that is shown is never enough to select any part, ever? You literally have to click that EVERY TIME for EVERY PART and it has been that way now for quite a long time.
 
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Re: Digi-Key has changed and it is not very good
« Reply #184 on: November 13, 2020, 11:42:34 pm »
And get rid of the need to click the show more filters button every time, OMG that is aggravating.
^^^^^^ Many times this. Despite how stupid the whole new version is, this is the most annoying of it all. You have to press this thing every single time.

You may as well just hide the whole block and have users press to show everything. It will be identical in usability and functionality.

I had a greasemonkey script worked out that would just automatically open it, but that broke with the new update and I have no patience to deal with the JS BS.

One of the most common parameters I limit when narrowing down my search is the package type, since I know the number of pins I want and I don't want BGAs. This is a good first filter for me. And it is always hidden.
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Re: Digi-Key has changed and it is not very good
« Reply #185 on: November 14, 2020, 02:03:36 am »
And get rid of the need to click the show more filters button every time, OMG that is aggravating. Does whoever is working on the website actually not realize that the default set of filters that is shown is never enough to select any part, ever? You literally have to click that EVERY TIME for EVERY PART and it has been that way now for quite a long time.

Yes, I dont think I have ever not expanded to see more filter selections...

The default should be expanded with the option to hide if if needed. And they also need uncheck that stupid marketplace tick box by default. Really who uses that.
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Re: Digi-Key has changed and it is not very good
« Reply #186 on: November 14, 2020, 02:19:51 am »
I do not think they will do it but anyways I would like to add my voice for default uncheck of the idiotic marketplace option.
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Re: Digi-Key has changed and it is not very good
« Reply #187 on: November 14, 2020, 02:33:35 am »
I challenge anyone to choose a part, any part, without clicking that idiotic un-hide button, with better accuracy than dumb luck. Unless you search for the exact part number you need or manage to nail every one of the search terms there is just no way. The choices it does show you don't even make any sense. For example I just tried searching for "NPN transistor", a fairly common thing I might search for when ordering for a project. It gives me by default Manufacture, Series, Packaging, Part Status and Transistor Type. Out of all of those, Transistor Type and if it's a production prototype then also Part Status are the only ones that are even remotely useful as a starting point. Manufacture? Who cares, I don't even see ANY of the electrical specs yet. Series? If I knew what series I wanted I'd have typed that in the search box. Packaging? Seriously?! I still have no idea what part I'm looking for and I'm going to want to filter based on the type of packaging it is shipped in?  |O This is just... I can picture Dave moaning and slapping his forehead the way he does when he's really exasperated by something. It shows just a complete lack of understanding of the way their intended customers select parts and selling electronic components to engineers is their entire core business. It is inexcusable.
 
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Re: Digi-Key has changed and it is not very good
« Reply #188 on: November 14, 2020, 05:21:19 pm »
And get rid of the need to click the show more filters button every time, OMG that is aggravating. Does whoever is working on the website actually not realize that the default set of filters that is shown is never enough to select any part, ever? You literally have to click that EVERY TIME for EVERY PART and it has been that way now for quite a long time.
Fixing that is also on the near-ish term plan.
 
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Re: Digi-Key has changed and it is not very good
« Reply #189 on: November 15, 2020, 12:06:11 am »
Nope, not here anyway... 

It's still the same stupid, new "let's beta test all this, live on our users" interface here...   :palm:
I just checked a bunch of the parts I commonly buy.  Lots of them seem to have price increases since the last time I looked, which has been a while.
Anybody know why there's no volume discount for Xilinx?  If you order 10,000 parts, you still pay the single-piece price on them.

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Re: Digi-Key has changed and it is not very good
« Reply #190 on: November 18, 2020, 02:41:12 am »
Anybody know why there's no volume discount for Xilinx?  If you order 10,000 parts, you still pay the single-piece price on them.
IME Xilinx prices are usually heavily marked down through NDA price negotiations.
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Re: Digi-Key has changed and it is not very good
« Reply #191 on: November 18, 2020, 03:36:22 pm »
Anybody know why there's no volume discount for Xilinx?  If you order 10,000 parts, you still pay the single-piece price on them.
IME Xilinx prices are usually heavily marked down through NDA price negotiations.
OK, I looked a couple other places, and Digi-Key still seems to have the best prices on Xilinx.  They used to all be the same.

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Re: Digi-Key has changed and it is not very good
« Reply #192 on: November 24, 2020, 02:44:44 am »
Still getting the "Let’s try again. The page you requested is unavailable." on most of my Digikey website clicks. If I reload the page twice it works. Click on a few parameters to sort by, nothing happens but the spinning wait icon.
Totally unusable now. Look at these errors from two browsers  :palm:

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Re: Digi-Key has changed and it is not very good
« Reply #193 on: November 24, 2020, 05:00:39 am »
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but the Australian Digikey seems completely broken at the moment. There's a bunch of component search parameters missing.

For example, if you look at SMD chip resistors, there is no "thin film" listed under composition:
https://www.digikey.com.au/products/en/resistors/chip-resistor-surface-mount/52

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Re: Digi-Key has changed and it is not very good
« Reply #194 on: November 24, 2020, 05:03:53 am »
At least your UI is not a total trash, and marketplace is not yet added. Soon it will be worse.

Also, US version is also missing that option.
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Re: Digi-Key has changed and it is not very good
« Reply #195 on: November 24, 2020, 05:14:17 am »
Also, US version is also missing that option.

Oh no, the problem must be spreading.  :-\

Yesterday I was using the US site to search for parts, then ordered using the AUS site. Looks like the US site is broken now too.


I don't like the new UI of the US site either...
 

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Re: Digi-Key has changed and it is not very good
« Reply #196 on: November 24, 2020, 06:28:54 pm »
I would guess this sort of thing will become the norm. If they're using an "agile" team to develop the website then they will be continuously tinkering and changing things, and if they break something "no problem, we'll fix it later".
 
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Re: Digi-Key has changed and it is not very good
« Reply #197 on: November 24, 2020, 07:50:19 pm »
DK sent me a survey yesterday about their website. I told them everything I thought about their "redesign" in no uncertain terms :-BROKE I suggest you guys do the same if you receive that invitation too. Let's see if that will make any difference.

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Re: Digi-Key has changed and it is not very good
« Reply #198 on: November 25, 2020, 04:24:17 pm »
DK sent me a survey yesterday about their website. I told them everything I thought about their "redesign" in no uncertain terms :-BROKE I suggest you guys do the same if you receive that invitation too. Let's see if that will make any difference.
Yup, same here, I hope I gave them a good-enough tongue lashing.

Also, we ordered some stuff at work via purchase order, I didn't notice it was a marketplace item.  They won't allow you to buy marketplace items on open account/PO.  That's another big red flag on this marketplace thing.  That's just a big annoyance, you now have to check that EACH item in not marketplace.

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Re: Digi-Key has changed and it is not very good
« Reply #199 on: November 25, 2020, 11:52:21 pm »
I would like to see the marketplace stuff NOT INCLUDED by default.
Or some way to turn it off.

This whole marketplace thing does not give me a warm, fuzzy feeling.
There is certainly a level of trust with Digi-Key that you won't get dodgy counterfeit parts.
But opening things up to third parties... I just don't feel comfortable with it. It's the narrow end of the wedge.

The way I see it... I go to Digi-Key to buy from Digi-Key.
Just not a fan of this "Amazonification" of things.
 
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