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Was YouTube right, for a strike & temp ban, as he singed his beard in a recent video?

Yes, there is a wide range of possible viewers, of all ages, who might be given bad/dangerous ideas
3 (6%)
No, anyone can see far worse, just by watching TV
29 (58%)
What ban?
13 (26%)
Who is Big Clive Dot Com?
1 (2%)
What is a poll, how did I get here, where is the exit?
3 (6%)
Other, please reply below
1 (2%)

Total Members Voted: 50

Voting closes: August 25, 2024, 12:10:47 am

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Offline armandine2

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Re: BigCliveDotCom back from temporary YouTube ban
« Reply #50 on: June 30, 2024, 08:24:32 pm »
... a unintentional borderline humorous electronics video - that is hard on the audience


 
Funny, the things you have the hardest time parting with are the things you need the least - Bob Dylan
 
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Re: BigCliveDotCom back from temporary YouTube ban
« Reply #51 on: June 30, 2024, 08:59:27 pm »
I think at the end of the day.  If you worry about what a (hopefully) tiny minority may do, by completely misusing a good video, and what harm they may cause.  Just about all YouTube videos and perhaps all TV and cinema, would have to completely stop.

https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/an4G4KE_700bwp.webp

When I was much younger, books were telling children, how to take batteries apart (or at least showing their insides), and getting them to put stuff in their mouths, in a worrying way.  See here (I think I remember that exact picture from a book, a very long time ago):

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=432777.0;attach=2297997;image

Politically correct, modern standards, would probably insist on trying to prosecute or sue, the publisher, if someone tried to promote such educational things these days.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=432777.0;attach=2297997;image
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These are called cells and the two cells make a battery.

I always read and hear of batteries being referred to as cells or packs having "single" cells.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2024, 09:02:31 pm by MrMobodies »
 
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Offline Andy Chee

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Re: BigCliveDotCom back from temporary YouTube ban
« Reply #52 on: June 30, 2024, 09:33:27 pm »
From common sense perspective who would try setting his beard on fire? What kind of idiot one has to be to do this.

Common sense may suggest not to do this, but then you see someone do it successfully and you wonder - if they can do it, and it plainly works, what's the problem?

I think you underestimate how persuasive these things can be, even to those that might normally be aware it is daft. What's  the worst that  could happen? A few singed hairs? Sure, worth a try then. Of course, they might have used some beard oil but either the instructions (if read) for those won't say "Don't set your beard alight while using this product" because, well, who would? Or they do explicitly say that and then folks like you lay into them for being woke and over the top on 'safety' stuff that no-one would sensibly do anyway. Can't win.
Incidentally, I believe a video I posted in another thread was taken down for similar reasons:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/electric-fence/msg5515438/#msg5515438

Fortunately the video has been uploaded multiple times:

 
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Re: BigCliveDotCom back from temporary YouTube ban
« Reply #53 on: July 01, 2024, 12:14:17 am »
But such videos (Electric Fences, or Van de Graaff generators and similar), can be important and useful, because they teach people how electricity works.  Also, by seeing their lively reactions, people learning from such videos, are much more likely to remember the importance of playing safe with high voltages.

In other words, it perhaps could be argued, that by banning/deleting such videos on YouTube.  It maybe risking vital safety information/lessons (such as for the dangers of high voltages), from being missed by some people.

I'm not happy that they deleted that video, you mentioned.  Although I'd prefer to know the exact details of the complaints about it, and let YouTube explain why they took that video down.  Before blaming YouTube or accusing them of making a mistake (although me saying that is hypocritical, as I made this thread, which does just that).

E.g. Perhaps it was taken down for different reasons, such as a copyright claim/dispute.
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Re: BigCliveDotCom back from temporary YouTube ban
« Reply #54 on: July 01, 2024, 07:27:22 am »
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Also, by seeing their lively reactions, people learning from such videos, are much more likely to remember the importance of playing safe with high voltages.

Not sure that works. Firstly, without knowing about such stuff it would be easy to think they are faking. Forget you know about electricity and insulators and grounds, and it certainly looks very faked for the lulz.

Next, it's actually showing that a 10kV electric fence is perfectly safe if a little 'jolty'. So how much safer would be, say, 400V three-phase supply, or the plainly weedy 240V plug. Maybe a practical joke on some unsuspecting sibling is in order.

I don't see how you can ban them, though. Once you go down that route it tends to be a ratchet that more and more stuff trips over.
 
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Re: BigCliveDotCom back from temporary YouTube ban
« Reply #55 on: July 01, 2024, 07:36:05 am »
Here we go, a paint drying video.  I was expecting it to have a few hundred views or perhaps a thousand or so.

Yet it seems to have 1.7 million views, along with 8,900 comments.

Wow!

Information overload detoxification, or get to sleep videos, maybe a keep babies/pets happy video.  I wonder what the motivations, of those 1.7 million views were?


There is a theory on that.... People fall asleep while watching YouTube and the algorithm can't distinguish between viewers that are asleep and those that are very interested in the video and want to watch it in its entirety. If you fall asleep every night with Youtube, the algorithm will suggest to you more and more very long videos thinking you are interested, and will self reinforce those suggestions.
The Spiffing Brit made a video about that and how some creators are using it to make more money:

I don't know how and if Google will fix this one day, but as long as the advertisers (who are the only ones loosing here) don't complain they have no reason to.
 
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Re: BigCliveDotCom back from temporary YouTube ban
« Reply #56 on: July 01, 2024, 08:21:17 am »
If i am not logged in, after around an hour or so, playback stops if i do not interact with the browser.
Though that maybe only happens with videos that are classified as music.
 
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