BigCliveDotCom back from temporary YouTube ban

[magic]

I can understand why the general ban-hammer is more or less automated, the amount of new content on YT  every day is enormous.
But to me it makes no sense that creators with more than a decade of content and sometimes +million subscribers doesn't get at least some leeway
or human attention before a ban

Do you realize how expensive a few minutes of competent human attention is, compared to a second of computer work? Why would they spend money on a content provider who isn't going anywhere else anyway?

[m98]

Difficult topic. I guess the vast majority of his audience just gets the humour, but realistically, what could be a one-word summary of “setting your own beard on fire”? Self-harm. Everyone agrees how dangerous/deadly some of those "TikTok"-challenges can get, and how much it can damage the reputation of a platform. So its very understandable they want none of that.

[iMo]

Frankly, I doubt a child or a teen would set his own beard on fire.. 
On the other hand, the more bizarre the content the more views.. That is today's reality..

[Bud]

The poll is missing "It was plain stupid on his side" voting option.

[MK14]

The poll is missing "It was plain stupid on his side" voting option.

You're right.
The forum originally, only seemed to let me set 5 answers, and I couldn't find a method of increasing it.  On the other hand, you could argue I wasted some of the answers, with joke/gag options.

When I later edited the original post, strangely a 6th poll answer, that was blank, but I could fill in, had appeared.

Until now, I haven't done forum polls here, for a rather long time, so maybe don't know the ropes well enough yet.

I don't want to add any more answers, at this late stage (a generic 'OTHER' seemed ok though, because it wasn't an answer as such, for the voting, in real terms), as it would confuse the voting patterns.

[MK14]

Difficult topic. I guess the vast majority of his audience just gets the humour, but realistically, what could be a one-word summary of “setting your own beard on fire”? Self-harm. Everyone agrees how dangerous/deadly some of those "TikTok"-challenges can get, and how much it can damage the reputation of a platform. So its very understandable they want none of that.

Frankly, I doubt a child or a teen would set his own beard on fire.. 
On the other hand, the more bizarre the content the more views.. That is today's reality..

The poll is missing "It was plain stupid on his side" voting option.

Answering all 3 posts, at the same time.  Which essentially seem to boil down to, what if people who watch the video, end up taking similar actions and leading to (possibly self) harm.

Take the following video of his, as an example:



It seems to have 6.4 million views, at the moment.

So, who knows out of those up to 6.4 million people (probably fewer in practice, as some might watch it multiple times), will correctly heed its advice, to play safe with dangerous stuff.

But some of its viewers, could end up ignoring or misunderstanding the advice, and end up doing their own similar experiments.  With potentially (excuse the pun), extremely dangerous outcomes.

I think at the end of the day.  If you worry about what a (hopefully) tiny minority may do, by completely misusing a good video, and what harm they may cause.  Just about all YouTube videos and perhaps all TV and cinema, would have to completely stop.

I.e. What Video (YouTube/TV/Cinema etc), could be considered absolutely 100.000000000% safe, for all of the around 7 billion Earths human occupants?

Let's consider, 1 hour of a totally silent, black screen, with zero sound and no description details and blank title.

What if one or more of the viewers, does some harm to themselves, out of the sheer potential boredom, such a video, may cause.

A soldering video, they could burn themselves or others, with the soldering iron.

A 1.5 volt AA battery lighting a small bulb.  They could accidentally swallow the battery, bulb or hurt themselves with the wire.

Video of someone peacefully and gently reading a book.  A (rare) person could get highly upset, because they didn't succeed in ever learning to read, so they get into a rather upset state, and cause some damage.

[Nominal Animal]

Yet, I still think this is funny.

[MK14]

Yet, I still think this is funny.

Thanks, that is funny.

The following video, in effect, makes fun of anyone who is not an EEVblog forum member, along with the knowledge, that often gives/implies.

It probably wouldn't be in the best of tastes, these days, as it is not especially politically correct (as regards technical people, of sorts, rather than other factors).

[Sal Ammoniac]

I think at the end of the day.  If you worry about what a (hopefully) tiny minority may do, by completely misusing a good video, and what harm they may cause.  Just about all YouTube videos and perhaps all TV and cinema, would have to completely stop.

[MK14]

I think at the end of the day.  If you worry about what a (hopefully) tiny minority may do, by completely misusing a good video, and what harm they may cause.  Just about all YouTube videos and perhaps all TV and cinema, would have to completely stop.

When I was much younger, books were telling children, how to take batteries apart (or at least showing their insides), and getting them to put stuff in their mouths, in a worrying way.  See here (I think I remember that exact picture from a book, a very long time ago):



Politically correct, modern standards, would probably insist on trying to prosecute or sue, the publisher, if someone tried to promote such educational things these days.

[Bud]

The poll is missing "It was plain stupid on his side" voting option.

Answering all 3 posts, at the same time.  Which essentially seem to boil down to, what if people who watch the video, end up taking similar actions and leading to (possibly self) harm.

Look, I do not give a fyck if Big Clive self harms himself, or about "Save the children" mentality. That was not my point. I was talking about common sense. From common sense perspective who would try setting his beard on fire? What kind of idiot one has to be to do this. This is why I said "Plain" stupidity.

[floobydust]

Fire is unpredictable, as a teen we used to light farts all the time. But sometimes the flame would travel to lint on clothes, and then your clothes and then "something else" are on fire... which can be pretty horrifying, unexpected. Hair can be extra flammable with oil "beard oil" or product in it as well.
I think it was a bonehead move.

[SiliconWizard]

Frankly, I doubt a child or a teen would set his own beard on fire.. 

I would have too, but that's underestimating the stupidity of people. Not only a teen may try that, but probably lots of adults as well.

And I'm not for censoring such content just because of that, either. Because the underlying issue is much deeper, and people don't get better by just being ignorant of things that could be dangerous.

[MK14]

Look, I do not give a fyck if Big Clive self harms himself, or about "Save the children" mentality. That was not my point. I was talking about common sense. From common sense perspective who would try setting his beard on fire? What kind of idiot one has to be to do this. This is why I said "Plain" stupidity.

But BigClive is trying to make fun, educational, entertaining videos, which people will watch.

He could have safely pointed the camera at the freshly painted wall (if it had been), and recorded it safely drying for 5 hours, continuously.  There are even people who will watch such things (I suspect).  But I bet most people in this thread, would NOT watch such a video, if BigClive made it.

What he did, is a bit crazy.  But on the other hand, it shows some of his real life personality at play.  It let's learn more about the real life BigClive, still playing and having fun, many decades after childhood.

[MK14]

Here we go, a paint drying video.  I was expecting it to have a few hundred views or perhaps a thousand or so.

Yet it seems to have 1.7 million views, along with 8,900 comments.

Wow!

Information overload detoxification, or get to sleep videos, maybe a keep babies/pets happy video.  I wonder what the motivations, of those 1.7 million views were?

[MK14]

Look, I do not give a fyck if Big Clive self harms himself, or about "Save the children" mentality. That was not my point. I was talking about common sense. From common sense perspective who would try setting his beard on fire? What kind of idiot one has to be to do this. This is why I said "Plain" stupidity.

I have a question for you.  To clarify the situation.  By the way, it is your opinion, and I'm perfectly fine, that we can all have differing opinions, about different things.  So, no criticism of you.

Given that you see the video (beard singed) as "Plain" stupidity.

Are you happy for BigClive to have such videos, as part of his YouTube collection (and you are perfectly free to never watch it), or are you, so unhappy about it, that you want such a video, banned/removed/deleted/gone?

[quince]

He didn't sing his beard, he singed it.

This nitpicking post is as important as that ban was.

But he did singe it.

[floobydust]

After seeing Electroboom fuck around with an energized MOT and jumper wires, I fully expect him to die soon.  That is the stupidest move, no doubt about it.
I don't think he's been banned on youtube.

[MK14]

After seeing Electroboom fuck around with an energized MOT and jumper wires, I fully expect him to die soon.  That is the stupidest move, no doubt about it.
I don't think he's been banned on youtube.

Photonicinduction, was arguably similar.  While it was regularly, active.

He/they seemed to do things, fairly safely.  But some of the stuff they did, was more messing around silliness, such as (made up example), "What will happen to this 115V lightbulb, if I give it 10,000 volts, from this giant transformer?", sort of videos.

[factory]

Look, I do not give a fyck if Big Clive self harms himself, or about "Save the children" mentality. That was not my point. I was talking about common sense. From common sense perspective who would try setting his beard on fire? What kind of idiot one has to be to do this. This is why I said "Plain" stupidity.

From the comments on the video, there are a few mentions of this being a method used for trimming beards.

David

[helius]

A few comments = replies by the video creator?
It looks more like he is taking the piss in the comments as well as the video.

Really if this is what he's been driven to, it looks like a case of audience capture. Ditto Electroboom and his stupid stunts.

[MK14]

This doesn't seem completely 100% fair.  I found the following fire/Beard related YouTube/Short, which seems to be much more frightening and harmful to the person, than BigClive's Beard fire singe short.  Where the person may have accidentally got hurt as well.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EQSHihBbdBc

EDIT: I suppose, BigClive's Video Short, could be argued, that it is too similar to the concepts of self-harm, where as, the video in this post, was apparently an accident.  So, perhaps not a valid example.

[Nominal Animal]

Pay extra note to the gap-toothed grin at the end.  I very much think it was in the same vein of absurd humor as the Hale&Pace microwaved kitten sketch, or Jukka Tilsa's Zärpä comics.  Not as good, though, but in the same vein.

[factory]

A few comments = replies by the video creator?

There are comments from other users, not just BigClive himself.

David

[PlainName]

From common sense perspective who would try setting his beard on fire? What kind of idiot one has to be to do this.

Common sense may suggest not to do this, but then you see someone do it successfully and you wonder - if they can do it, and it plainly works, what's the problem?

I think you underestimate how persuasive these things can be, even to those that might normally be aware it is daft. What's  the worst that  could happen? A few singed hairs? Sure, worth a try then. Of course, they might have used some beard oil but either the instructions (if read) for those won't say "Don't set your beard alight while using this product" because, well, who would? Or they do explicitly say that and then folks like you lay into them for being woke and over the top on 'safety' stuff that no-one would sensibly do anyway. Can't win.