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Re: Basic Component Names in Your Language
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2018, 06:27:42 am »
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Re: Basic Component Names in Your Language
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2018, 06:32:14 am »
For some reason, the name "Capacitor" is used in the Czech Republic for high-voltage kondenzátor in microwave ovens
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Re: Basic Component Names in Your Language
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2018, 07:39:41 am »
I was working on a bit of German gear, where the schematic showed a circle with wires going into & out of it.
The thing was labelled a "Drossel".
The actual component was potted.
I assumed it was an Inductor, but all the other German schematics called that an "Induktivität", so I thought I'd better check it out.

My wife was born in Germany, but her Dad was Polish, & she was brought up using three languages interchangeably, ( or a mixture), so was no help.

I asked a lady at work, but all she came up with was the bird reference.

I went with my "gut", as logically an Inductor would be appropriate in that position.

It looks to me that the EE who designed the device was of an earlier generation, used the term " Drossel", as I might use  "choke", & drew it as a circle in his original rough sketch.
The Draftsman was perhaps of a later generation, so no more idea than I of what a "Drossel" was, hence the mystery circle.

If the actual component was potted, my guess would be "Drossel" - choke. The symbol you describe is unknown to me, do you have a picture you can post, maybe I can say something from the context?


Yes, there are differences between choke / Drossel, inductor / Induktivität, coil / Spule:
"Drossel" is an inductor used e.g. in filters or DC/DC converters (e.g. "Speicherdrossel" for the inductor in a buck converter).
For a resonant tank, one would say "Spule", but never "Drossel"
"Inductivität" is a general term and also means inductance (for the Henry value of a inductor) as well as inductor (the thing)

There's also a subtle difference for transformers:
"Transformator" is more the power (line frequency stuff) related one,
You'd say "Übertrager" e.g. for a small signal or audio transformer, often this term is also used for a SMPS transformer.
A pulse transformer would be rather an "Impulsübertrager" than an "Impulstransformator", though the latter will be understood.

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Re: Basic Component Names in Your Language
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2018, 07:47:12 am »
:-// Why is it resistor has so many completely different pronunciations, but, capacitor in most languages follows along the lines of condensa....  Well, except for Hebrew.

I believe this is from the latin roots of this word: "condensare" - which means something like "dicht zusammendrängen" - to put something tighly together. It is used for condensing steam (put water molecules tighly together to make water out of steam) and also collecting electrons on the plate of a capacitor.
In German, "Kondensator" is the same word for the thing condensing steam and collecting electrons, so the older English term condenser / condensor was used the same way (IMO and afaik).
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Re: Basic Component Names in Your Language
« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2018, 01:24:55 pm »
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Re: Basic Component Names in Your Language
« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2018, 02:21:35 pm »
Thanks Horusaem, nice idea for a thread. Is Polish for valve or tube, lampa or lampy ? It's such a good description  :). I think in Wales we just use the English words, I've worked with Welsh speaking engineers in the past and I can't remember them using a Welsh word to describe a component.
However, my favorite Welsh word is for microwave oven, popty micro-don or popty ping although microwaves don't go "ping" anymore.

Valve is Zawór  [Zawur] Plurar is Zawory
Tube is Tuba ( a cylinder with hole in it )
Lampa - Lamp
Lampy- Lamps ;)

But I think what you meant is a Vaccum Tube or Nixi Tube as they would follow that logic ;)

Vaccum Tube - Lampa pró?niowa [Prozniowa] {spells like pr "you" gill(ete mute part but start the word like this ) niiiiii ( "Quest for the holy grail" and knights that say Niii )Owwww Aaaahh   ( not a direct translation )  this is as close as you get to pronounce it in polish}  ;)

Nixi Tube - Lampa\Lampka Nixi

IC-Integrated Circut - Zintegrowany Obwód [Obwud]

Circut - Obwód
Potentiometer - Ponencjometr
Encoder - Enkoder
Sensor - Sensor or Czujnik
Varistor - Warystor
Crystal - Kryszta?
Screen- Ekran
Display - Wy?wietlacz

Voltmeter - Voltomierz
Ampmeter - Amperomierz
Ohmomeeter - Omomoierz
Osciloscope - Osculoskop

Analog - Analogowy
Digital - Cyfrowy
Converter - Konwerter
Socket - Gniazdo
Power supply - Zasilacz
Bench - ?awka [Lawka]
Matrix - Matryca
LCD Display - Wy?wietlacz Ciek?oklystaliczny [Cieklocrystaliczny]
Solder - Cyna ( or Cyna Lutownicza )
Solder Joint - Lut
Flux - Topik or by the name of the acctual flux component like Kalafonia

Some older stuff would have a slightly different names like power supply socket would be Sie? and that Transfer to the Net or Grid wich would be Siatka

I really like some of the foren names :D especially Hebrew ones , they are like Doomsday device names ;) And Chinese ones will be handy for sure ^_^
 

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Re: Basic Component Names in Your Language
« Reply #31 on: April 10, 2018, 02:41:41 pm »
Not my language, don't understand at all, its just one of my favorite so weirdly sound language that uses alphabet (at least to my ear) ..... thru Google translate ...

resistant--gwrthsefyll
capacitor--cynhwysydd
transformer--trawsnewidydd
chip--sglodion
voltage--foltedd
display--arddangos
screen--sgrin
integrated circuit--cylched integredig
processor--prosesydd
connector--cysylltydd
switch--newid
socket--soced
electricity--trydan
energy--egni
charge--tâl
sensor--synhwyrydd
crystal--grisial
converter--trawsnewidydd
solder join--sodwr ymuno
flux--fflwcs
heating up--gwresogi i fyny
cooling down--oeri i lawr



Gwresogi i fyny fy haearn sodro i osod y tegan hon cyn gynted ag y bo modd wrth i un o'r gwrthsefyll fethu.

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Heating up my soldering iron to fix this toy as soon as possible as one of the resistor is failing.


No, I didn't make this up.  ;D
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Re: Basic Component Names in Your Language
« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2018, 03:02:03 pm »
If that's meant to be Welsh (you don't actually say) then in practice the Welsh don't have words for technology. Yes, some Welsh language enthusiasts (zealots might be closer to the truth) have back-invented Welsh words for technology, science, and technological artefacts, but they aren't actually used by the general Welsh speaking population. I know this because I used to sit next to a native Welsh speaker who did tech support for all our Welsh speaking customers. Her conversations with them were in Welsh, but were peppered with the English words for technology, for which strangely she dropped into her everyday English accent - it was truly weird to listen to.
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Re: Basic Component Names in Your Language
« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2018, 03:08:21 pm »
... it was truly weird to listen to.

I do experienced similar experiences as yours, and it was mind boggling when I heard it for the 1st time, especially the modes switching vice versa between two languages, and to make it worst, English isn't my native either.  :scared:

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Re: Basic Component Names in Your Language
« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2018, 03:09:28 pm »
Who knows, maybe it's in Cornish? Or Breton.

Although if it's Google Translate, it's most likely Welsh.
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Re: Basic Component Names in Your Language
« Reply #35 on: April 10, 2018, 03:59:46 pm »
elektrolitický kondenzátor
elektrolytický !
Or just "elyt" in colloquial conversation.
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Re: Basic Component Names in Your Language
« Reply #36 on: April 10, 2018, 05:49:41 pm »
Here's a few in finnish:

electricity                                 sähkö
voltage                                    jännite
current                                    virta
charge                                    varaus
energy                                    energia
power                                     teho
AC                                          vaihtovirta
DC                                          tasavirta

resistor                                    vastus
capacitor                                 kondensaattori
electrolytic capacitor                elektrolyyttikondensaattori
varikap - capacitance diode       kapasitanssi diodi ?
thermistor                               termistori
varistor                                   varistori
coil                                         kela
transformer                             muuntaja
diode                                      diodi
zener diode                            zener diodi
led                                        led
transistor                               transistori
thyristor                                tyristori
display                                  näyttö
screen                                   näyttö
integrated circuit                    integroitu piiri
processor                              prosessori, suoritin
chip                                       siru ?
switch                                   kytkin
button                                   nappi
microswitch                          mikrokytkin
connector                             liitin
socket                                  kanta
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Re: Basic Component Names in Your Language
« Reply #37 on: April 10, 2018, 07:05:41 pm »
 :-+ Diolch yn fawr iawn BravoV, thank you very much BravoV, it hadn't occured to me to use google translate  :palm:
 

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Re: Basic Component Names in Your Language
« Reply #38 on: April 10, 2018, 08:28:39 pm »
elektrolitický kondenzátor
elektrolytický !
Or just "elyt" in colloquial conversation.
Well, it has not happened to me for a long time to make such a mistake  |O
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Re: Basic Component Names in Your Language
« Reply #39 on: April 10, 2018, 08:32:54 pm »
I'll just make a small correction (late night here) in Masas good list.
Here's a few in finnish:


voltageTension                    jännite


kiitos !
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... There is no equivalent of voltage in Finnish. Only informal "volttia", but even then it is used more like a unit.
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Re: Basic Component Names in Your Language
« Reply #40 on: April 10, 2018, 09:55:04 pm »
This thread is going to be very useful!

Some basic tools:

En(UK)En(US)DeFrItSp
ScrewdriverScrewdriverSchraubendreherTournevisgiravite, cacciavitedestornillador, atornillador
SpannerWrenchSchraubenschluesselclé/clefchiavellave de tuerca
NutdriverNutdriverSteckschluesselclé/clef à douillechiave a bussolallave tubular
PliersPliersZangePincetenagliatenasa
ScissorsScissorsSchereciseau/cisailleforbicetijera
SawSawSaegesciesegasierra
FileFileFeilelimelimalima
HammerHammerHammerMarteauMartelloMartillo
DrillDrillBohrerperceur/percoirtrapanobarrena/broca
BrushBrushBuerstebrossespazzolacepillo

Just taken from some catalogues - no warranties given!

Please add more tools and languages!

 

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Re: Basic Component Names in Your Language
« Reply #41 on: April 11, 2018, 12:38:57 am »
Okay, couldn't help myself...

Resistor esistorray
Capacitor apacitorcay
Coil oilcay
Transformer ansistortray
Diode iodeday
Display isplayday
Screen eenscray
Integrated circuit integratedyay ircuitcay
Processor ocessorpray
Chip ipchay
switch itchsway
Button uttonbay

Probably only the older folks will get this...
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Re: Basic Component Names in Your Language
« Reply #42 on: April 11, 2018, 02:00:13 am »
As it is about EE and language here, one excerpt of a post I did recently in another thread MUST be shared here, as it illustrates the problems beyond the general use dictionary and our professions:
One especially moronic thing that relates to tool catalogues: most of you know TechniTool. For a time they published a catalogue in German. All small cutting pliers were labeled 'auch/besonders zum Schneiden von Bleidraht geeignet ('usable/suitable for cutting wires made of lead') For years! And then you have some Homo Deltaminus stand before you and tell you that XBrand cutters had been bought, but no, they can't be used because the are only for lead wire, so you can't cut copper wire, nono!
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Re: Basic Component Names in Your Language
« Reply #43 on: April 11, 2018, 02:08:55 am »
Okay, couldn't help myself...

Resistor esistorray
Capacitor apacitorcay
Coil oilcay
Transformer ansistortray
Diode iodeday
Display isplayday
Screen eenscray
Integrated circuit integratedyay ircuitcay
Processor ocessorpray
Chip ipchay
switch itchsway
Button uttonbay

Probably only the older folks will get this...

amscray...

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Re: Basic Component Names in Your Language
« Reply #44 on: April 11, 2018, 02:20:21 am »
Portuguese (Português)


electricity                         eletricidade
voltage                             tensão (voltagem)
current                             corrente (amperagem)
charge                              carga
energy                              energia
power                               potência
AC                                  CA (corrente alternada)
DC                                  CC (corrente contínua)

resistor                            resistor (resístor)
capacitor                           capacitor (condensador)
electrolytic capacitor              capacitor eletrolítico (condensador eletrolítico)
thermistor                          termistor
varistor                            varistor
coil                                bobina
transformer                         transformador
diode                               diodo
zener diode                         diodo zener
varicap diode                       diodo varicap
led                                 led
transistor                          transistor
thyristor                           tiristor (SCR)
display                             mostrador (display)
screen                              tela
integrated circuit                  circuito integrado
processor                           processador (CPU)
chip                                chip
switch                              chave
button                              botão
microswitch                         micro-chave (micro switch)
connector                           conector
socket                              soquete
PCB (Printed Circuit Board)         PCI (Placa de Circuito Impresso)


Tools (Ferramentas)

Screwdriver                         Chave de fenda
Spanner                             Chave inglesa
Nutdriver                           Chave de boca
Pipe Wrench                         Chave de cano
Pliers                              Alicate
Cutting Pliers                      Alicate de corte
Locking Pliers                      Alicate de pressão
Tongue and Groove Plier             Alicate articulado
Scissors                            Tesoura
Saw                                 Serra
File                                Lima
Hammer                              Martelo
Drill Bit                           Broca
Drill / Power Drill                 Furadeira
Brush                               Escova
Paintbrush                          Pincel
Axe                                 Machado
Blade                               Lâmina
Chainsaw                            Motoserra
Punch                               Punção


Bits and pieces (cacarecos)

Nail                                Prego
Screw                               Parafuso
Self tapping screw                  Parafuso auto atarraxante / auto brocante / de rosca soberba
Metal screw                         Parafuso de metal
Nut                                 Porca
Washer                              Arruela
Sheetmetal                          Chapa de metal
Pipe                                Cano

(edit: added a few more)
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« Reply #45 on: April 11, 2018, 02:23:03 am »
OK, who's going to work up the list for Klingon?


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Re: Basic Component Names in Your Language
« Reply #46 on: April 11, 2018, 02:39:17 am »
Quote
OK, who's going to work up the list for Klingon?

According to http://tradukka.com/translate/en/tlh

electricity                'ul                       
voltage                    voltage                   
current                    Qu'mey potlh               
charge                     Huj                       
energy                     HoS                       
power                      ngup                       
AC                         AC                         
DC                         DC                         
                           
resistor                   resistor                   
capacitor                  capacitor                 
electrolytic capacitor     electrolytic capacitor     
thermistor                 thermistor                 
varistor                   varistor                   
coil                       coil                       
transformer                transformer               
diode                      diode                     
zener diode                zener diode               
varicap diode              varicap diode             
led                        Dev                       
transistor                 transistor                 
thyristor                  thyristor                 
display                    'agh                       
screen                     jIHDaq                     
integrated circuit         integrated circuit         
processor                  processor                 
chip                       Qeb                       
switch                     leQ                       
button                     button                     
microswitch                microswitch               
connector                  connector                 
socket                     socket                     
PCB (Printed Circuit Board)pcb (printed circuit tIj
                           
Tools                               tools
Screwdriver                screwdriver               
Spanner                    spanner                   
Nutdriver                  nutdriver                 
Pipe Wrench                pipe wrench               
Pliers                     plier                     
Cutting Pliers             pe'meH Pliers             
Locking Pliers             Pliers ngaQ               
Tongue and Groove Plier    jat je groove Plier       
Scissors                   cha''etlh pe'wI'          
Saw                        legh                       
File                       teywI'                     
Hammer                     mupwI'                     
Drill Bit                  Bit qeq                   
Drill / Power Drill        qeq 'eb ghap So'meH qeq HoS
Brush                      brush                     
Paintbrush                 paintbrush       
         
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Re: Basic Component Names in Your Language
« Reply #47 on: April 11, 2018, 03:10:30 am »
I think some of those Klingon translations are not relevant to electronics.  Like the translation for chip or led might not be for electronic ICs or light emitting diodes.
 

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Re: Basic Component Names in Your Language
« Reply #48 on: April 11, 2018, 04:07:11 am »
Agreed.
I promise I will not use them on my schematics.
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Re: Basic Component Names in Your Language
« Reply #49 on: April 11, 2018, 01:59:00 pm »
Drill - Wiert?o [wiertlo] ( as a Driller tip ) ( and all kinds go same as in english like SDS drill etc.)
Driller - Wiertarka
Driver( as in firmware ) - Sterownik
Hammer - Mlotek [M?otek]
Screw - ?ruba
Washer - Podk?adka [Podkladka]
Nut - Nakr?tka [Nakretka]
File- Pilnik
Fan - Wiatrak
Cooling system - System Ch?odz?cy [Chlodzacy]
Scisors - No?yce (if huge) No?yczki [Nozyce] [Nozyczki]
Screwdriver - Unicode will hate this one... Srubokret (orig. ?rubokr?t )

Caliper - Suwmiarka
Ruller - Linijka
Angler ? - K?tomierz [Katomierz] ( a type of tool to mesure angles )

Shovel - Szpadel or Lopata ( two different shapes and I am unfamilliar if eng has different names for them as american one is mix of both in design )

Brushless Motor - Silnik Bezszczotkowy

I am always trying to pick funny or usefull ones , we have a lot of community sites in Poland that offer really niche knowledge on particullar stuff and when you repair some of the tech yourself the exact stuff you might need is in some foren land that uses either cyrylic letters or not so popular languge so this thread might be next best thing to electronics Rosetta Stone :D
 


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