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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2011, 03:05:09 am »
If the birds don't get you, the spiders, snakes or kangaroos will.....  ;D

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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2011, 12:06:45 am »
Australia had a kangaroo that kick and attack golfers on a golf course in another posting in this blog.  Is the Tasmanian devil dangerous?  This website says no, as long keep their distance from one. 

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_a_Tasmanian_Devil_vicious

The top dangerous wild animals in Australia are:

1. The Box Jellyfish
2. Irukandji, jellyfish
3. giant salt water crocodile, very large and dangerous reptile and lay eggs.  The sex of their off spring is temperature dependent.
4. poisonous blue ring octopus
5. poisonous barbs stone fish
6. red back spider, cousin to the black widow spider, latrodectus.
7. brown snake
8. tiger snake
9. great white shark.  The Great Barrier Reef have these sharks, usually harmless, but not predictable behavior.
10. funnel spider
11. Maybe a neighborhood dog
12. flying birds to distract motorists, bicyclist, or motorcyclist to crash.

Drongo is an Australian bird as mentioned by Uncle Vernon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drongo

http://www.australianfauna.com/t10dangerous.php

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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2011, 12:31:22 am »
Don't forgot Drop Bears, bloody dangerous.
http://australianmuseum.net.au/Drop-Bear

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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2011, 12:38:46 am »
That's the only reason for me not to live in Australia. Their bugs are freaking huge and the birds seem to be "different". They have the second highest Human Development Index. That makes it a good country to live in. BTW, I should be learning about Australia's international situation. Any hints on where to get started, please?
 

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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2011, 12:39:47 am »
Just another reason to not go to Tasmania. When you look at the distribution map, the place is just full of those Drop Bears, never mind the Tasmanians!
 

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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2011, 12:43:54 am »
That's the only reason for me not to live in Australia. Their bugs are freaking huge and the birds seem to be "different".

Also some of the most beautiful and colourful in the world.

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They have the second highest Human Development Index. That makes it a good country to live in.

We don't like to boast, but, Yup!  :P

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BTW, I should be learning about Australia's international situation. Any hints on where to get started, please?

What do you mean by "international situation"?
In terms of strength of our economy, we currently have few rivals.

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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2011, 12:59:21 am »
Just another reason to not go to Tasmania. When you look at the distribution map, the place is just full of those Drop Bears, never mind the Tasmanians!
A definite concern, however the greatest risk in populated areas is the drongo. When drongos manage to find their way into motor vehicles the results can be catastrophic.



Damage caused by Drongos
 

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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2011, 01:16:01 am »
One more for those unsure that Maggies can be a very real danger





 

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Re: Australia - A dangerous place!
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2011, 02:07:48 am »
Australia had a kangaroo that kick and attack golfers on a gulf course in another posting in this blog.  Is the Tasmanian devil dangerous?  This website says no, as long keep their distance from one. 

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_a_Tasmanian_Devil_vicious

The top dangerous wild animals in Australia are:

1. The Box Jellyfish
2. Irukandji, jellyfish
3. giant salt water crocodile, very large and dangerous reptile and lay eggs.  The sex of their off spring is temperature dependent.
4. poisonous blue ring octopus
5. poisonous barbs stone fish
6. red back spider, cousin to the black widow spider, latrodectus.
7. brown snake
8. tiger snake
9. great white shark.  The Great Barrier Reef have these sharks, usually harmless, but not predictable behavior.
10. funnel spider
11. Maybe a neighborhood dog

http://www.australianfauna.com/t10dangerous.php

The Eastern Brown snake is nowhere near as potent as the Fierce Snake (Parademansie microlepidotus) and is closely followed by the Taipan (Oxyuranus scutellatus).

There are also many differnt types of Funnel Web spider that have varying degrees of potency, from the Sydney Funnel web (Atrax robustus) to the Northern Tree-dwelling Funnel web (Atrax formidablis).

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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2011, 02:31:59 am »
Is the Tasmanian devil dangerous?

Some say they make great pets.

 

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« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2011, 05:38:37 am »
8. tiger snake

I know a guy that was 10's of minutes away from dying from a Tigersnake bite.
He was canyoning in the Blue Mountains and walking out on the trail when he was bitten on the leg.
Foolishly he tried to walk a bit further to get better rescue access and that pumped the poison through his body.
As the others ran out to find mobile phone coverage he started to foam at the mouth and cough up blood. It got so bad he eventually pushed the EPIRB button and a chopper was overhead within the hour.
He needed 12 shots of anti-venom (usually you only need 1-2) and they told him if he didn't have the EPIRB he would have been dead before they got to him.
Made the 6 o'clock news as a remarkable survival story.

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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2011, 05:45:49 am »
I find it funny that the drop bear distribution map happens to have a cartoon-like bear face on it...

http://australianmuseum.net.au/image/Drop-Bear/
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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2011, 07:20:59 am »
Australian drop bear (Koalas Droppii v. terroraustralis), a marsupial animal, mean, attack mock up on video to warn forest travelers the dangers. 



This one is a little gore and terrible sight, but it is a stern warning of the Department of Dangerous Fauna Management, almost one in ten Australians and ignorant visitors have been mauled by a drop bear often needed cosmetic surgery repairs afterwards.  Drop bears attack in the day time from morning to dark.  "Look up. stay alive;" - Department of Dangerous Fauna Management.

http://outbackcooking.blogspot.com/2011/02/koala-drop-bear.html

Nearby islands New Guinea and Borneo native Dayaks headhunters:

Before converting these near by Borneo island natives to Christianity or Muslim, the Dayaks were the head hunters of near by Australia.  The violence occurred again in the 1990s attacking the Madurese immigrants. 

http://outbackcooking.blogspot.com/2011/09/australian-headhunters.html

Australian Army special forces units, guerrilla operations, deadly jungle and island warfare, more covert or as dangerous as the U.S. Green Berets and U.S. Navy Seals. 

Headhunting is a health risk, a cause of Creutzfeldt Jakob disease, infectious prion disease by the natives in New Guinea and Borneo consuming cranium in Kuru-kuru disease endemic to cannibalistic New Guinea headhunters with similar symptoms.

http://house.wikia.com/wiki/Creutzfeldt-Jakob_disease

http://www.austincc.edu/microbio/2993i/cjd.htm

Victoria Police keeping the province safe from gangs and unemployment demonstrations during the world wide great depression before and slightly after World War Two. 

http://www.police.vic.gov.au/content.asp?Document_ID=314

Risky sections and neighborhoods, similar problems in California U.S.A.:

http://www.police.vic.gov.au/content.asp?Document_ID=781

Mining minerals and fossil fuels, coal:

http://www.miningaustralia.com.au/tags/-mining-accidents

Giant haul trucks are large and limited driver vision to see geologist and helpers in the open pit mine.

http://www.miningaustralia.com.au/news/Blast-fumes-injure-miners

Australian rip currents are hazard to swimmers, waders, snorkelers, and divers.  Always wear a floatation device while in the water, even an orally inflate snorkel vest collar.  Even the very best Australian swimmer can become tired and disorientated with the powerful rip currents.

http://www.surfrescue.com.au/main/beach-safe/rip-currents/

http://www.ripcurrents.com.au/

Animation showing how rip currents work:

http://www.ripcurrents.com.au/About-Rip-Currents/What-is-a-Rip-Current.aspx

I wished there was a way to use these sea currents to generate electricity.

HP, hydrofluoric acid, HF, in the semiconductor wafer fab industry to remove oxide impurities from silicon wafers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrofluoric_acid

A wafer software company in Australia:

http://www.astc-design.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16&Itemid=30

Stingray fish (Myliobatoidei) at the beach is risky to be around:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stingray

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Irwin#Death

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« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2011, 05:37:38 pm »
A lot of mention of animals, but not much talk on natural chemical phenomena. For example, in some parts of the world you'll find dangerous volcanic lakes that release lots of carbon monoxide gas, wiping out an entire village.  Hydrogen sulfide chemical emissions can also occur naturally; it's quite toxic, generally found in wells and deep lakes. In our case, we had a very rare and disastrous dihydrogen monoxide scare in Queensland recently. Many people died as a result. These events usually occur every 40 years.
 

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« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2011, 05:50:25 pm »
I was watching a documentary long time ago about various animals that can bite/sting/... you and they are poisonous even for humans. It had many episodes and featured everything from spiders, snakes, scorpions, lizards, ant, bees, fish ... But there is one thing I remember from it. 99% of those things live in Australia. Almost every case report of people who (almost) died of those things was Australians or tourists in Australia. :)
 

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« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2011, 07:58:46 pm »
Dihydrogenmonoxide is H2O, water.  Yes, water is dangerous that many people swimming off the coast of Australia have drowned.  Surf here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2009323/American-tourist-Ian-Cole-left-dive-boat-shark-infested-Australian-seas.html

Australia do not have gas emissions volcanic lakes like the Lake Nyos, in West of Cameroon.  Australia have volcanic lakes when water filled the caldera or when a volcano blown off its top, cone leaving behind a magma chamber filled with water after rains.  The 1986 Lake Nyos, Cameroon bubbles of CO2 suffocated more 1700 people and livestock and animals that are low to the ground more than 25 km from the lake.  Since 1990s, a French team worked out a CO2 degassing relief pipe to lower the volcanic CO2 gas vents at the lake bed.  CO2(g) is heavier, more dense than air and it suffocated people sleeping in their huts and houses around Lake Nyos, Cameroon at night. 

http://mhalb.pagesperso-orange.fr/nyos/commun/indexcontact.htm

http://mhalb.pagesperso-orange.fr/nyos/2006/index2006.htm

Volcanic gases are not an Australian geologic hazard. 

California has volcanic gases, C)2(g) and inert isotope He at the Long Valley Caldera by Mammoth Mountain skiing and hiking resort suffocating trees.

http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs172-96/

Great Bush fires in 125 km (78 miles) west of Melbourne, Victoria, Australia a tragedy conflagration with massive property and farm animal loses and 166 people burned to death in 2009.  It is not very far away from Dave Jones.  The fire was so hot and fast that it overwhelmed the people trying to escape it and the heat so intense that it became a horrific fire storm melting alloy metals in cars. 

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/02/bushfires_in_victoria_australi.html

Coal seam methane gas is hazard and energy source in the Surat and Bowen basins in Queensland, Australia:

http://www.qgc.com.au/01_cms/details.asp?ID=305

http://www.qgc.com.au/

Australian earthquakes caused by stress in the Australian continent rocks or Australian plate moving towards the Eurasian plate 6 to 7 cm/year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_of_Australia#Geological_history

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Plates_tect2_en.svg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Australian_Plate

There is the Darling Fault, 1500 km long fault that travels north to south orientation along the west coast of southern Australia.  The Darling Fault was the last active break of the Proterozoic (2500 to 542 million years ago) East Gondwana super continent breakup:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_of_Australia#Geological_history

The Darling Fault have little recorded major rupture and been dormant for awhile.  The geologic features like the giant Darling Scarp raises concerns with some Australian earthquake experts.  A scarp is a piled of earth materials shoved by a earthquake fault:

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/wa-sits-on-deadly-fault-line/story-e6frg14u-1225782494162

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darling_Scarp

Australian riots during the 2005 Cronulla, New South Wales by name calling and foolish behavior over nationality and Muslim religious paranoia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Cronulla_riots#Injuries_and_arrests

High speed police chase of young adult and teenagers stolen a car and crashed into a tree in the Glenquarie housing estate, western suburb of Macquaire Fields, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia.  The crash by Jesse Kelly and death of the passenger teenagers in the crash resulted into a riot between the police and public  in the impoverished neighborhood of Macquaire Fields with an unemployment rate of 10.6%.  The unemployment rate is probably higher at the moment with the global downturn. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macquarie_Fields_riots

Here is some good advice when traveling to rural Australia:

http://www.outback-australia-travel-secrets.com/australian-outback-dangers.html


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« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2011, 04:21:34 am »
I think you taken my previous post way too seriously!  ;)
 

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« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2011, 04:42:56 am »
I was watching a documentary long time ago about various animals that can bite/sting/... you and they are poisonous even for humans.

I think you mean venomous. Only poisonous if you eat them.
Was it really supposed to do that?
 

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« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2011, 04:46:02 am »
High speed police chase of young adult and teenagers stolen a car and crashed into a tree in the Glenquarie housing estate, western suburb of Macquaire Fields, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia.  The crash by Jesse Kelly and death of the passenger teenagers in the crash resulted into a riot between the police and public  in the impoverished neighborhood of Macquaire Fields with an unemployment rate of 10.6%.  The unemployment rate is probably higher at the moment with the global downturn. 

That's just a practical example of Darwinism.
Was it really supposed to do that?
 

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« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2011, 05:15:55 am »
....... in the Glenquarie housing estate, western suburb of Macquaire Fields, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia.
That's just a practical example of Darwinism.

Far from it, MF in fact shown many examples of emerging Reverse Darwinism. 
Breeding patterns demonstrating  the fittest and smartest of the species as the group nearing extinction.
 

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« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2011, 05:43:36 am »
....... in the Glenquarie housing estate, western suburb of Macquaire Fields, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia.
That's just a practical example of Darwinism.

Far from it, MF in fact shown many examples of emerging Reverse Darwinism. 
Breeding patterns demonstrating  the fittest and smartest of the species as the group nearing extinction.

Think that one all the way through. Once the fittest and smartest have disappeared, all you are left with is a dead-end species aboard the B-Ark.
Was it really supposed to do that?
 

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« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2011, 10:05:49 am »
I think you mean venomous. Only poisonous if you eat them.

Yeah, that's what I meant, thanks.

I think the best part was a snake that some guys shot in the desert, cut it's head off and then when one of them went to pick the head up it bit him. Apparently that species' head can survive for hours after being cut off, just waiting to deliver it's last bite. They drove him to a hospital immediately and they gave him the antivenom just minutes before he would've died.
(Disclaimer: this might have been one of those animals outside Australia, but if someone knows what kind of snake can do this let us know)
 

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« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2011, 03:58:10 pm »
Drop Bears ... bloody hell, I wouldn't want to meet one of them.
I spent a year in Australia (QLD/NSW) in 2004 and nobody there ever mentioned them  >:(.
 

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« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2011, 07:18:13 pm »
Looking at the pictures of the cars, I remember when I was over there the directions I was given to my Uncles house. "When you see the car in the tree, turn left". There was a car in the tree - the turning was opposite.

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