HDMI over tcpip (not a booster)

[Someone]

So why on earth does anyone use HDMI (except for the reason that it's included in almost all consumer products). SDI is clearly a far better solution. Reminds me of the VHS v Betamax or HD-DVD v Blu Ray wars. The better technology is pushed to the sidelines merely because of popularity and marketing.

HDMI has a return path and is cheaper to implement since the transceiver rates are lower (though the aggregate is higher), but it has also been ahead of the curve in aggregate bandwidth with the SDI standards still not final on 6Gbit/s or 12Gbits/s while HDMI has had those rates for 5 and 2 years now. Or consider that SDI has no copy protection or encryption on it while HDMI "asserts" "rights"

[NiHaoMike]

What about Displayport?

[andtfoot]

What about Displayport?

HDMI had a few years head-start on DisplayPort I think.

[BradC]

you "slightly" overpaid
http://www.ebay.com/itm/330ft-100M-HDMI-Extender-Over-TCP-IP-Convert-Ethernet-Lan-Only-Receiver-IR-/311384903083

True, but then I got them off the shelf, same day and with warranty. I also don't pay list price, but yes they were considerably more expensive than the E-bay price.

this product is the exact same thing reverse engineered by Daniel and covered on hackaday: http://hackaday.com/2014/01/25/reverse-engineering-an-hdmi-extender/

Nice, thanks for the link.

[crispy_tofu]

What about Displayport?

HDMI had a few years head-start on DisplayPort I think.

Yep, HDMI was designed in December 2002, while DisplayPort was designed in May 2006 (and started production in 2008). 

[Smokey]

It's national revive a dead thread day!

I'm looking to do something like this and I came across these two devices:

$261 = H.265 = FBE200-H.265 = https://www.amazon.com/Encoder-Streaming-MPEG-4-Youtube-Converter/dp/B01NCP0JNU
$160 = H.264 = FBE200-H.264 = https://www.amazon.com/Encoder-Broadcast-Facebook-Streaming-Platforms/dp/B01N4PJDX2

http://www.fmuser.com/html/productlist/list-146-1.html
Not a lot of info about these guys, but the specs look good. It looks like a totally reasonably priced all in one solution.

My question now is:
Do I care about H.265 vs H.264 here?  Since this is a bandwidth intensive thing and I'm hoping to stream over the internet, will the better compression make a noticeable difference?  Is it worth another $100?

[Kjelt]

You need 265 to do 4k for 1080p 264 suffices.

[Smokey]

I don't really plan on doing anything with 4K, but if the 265 is significantly more efficient at the same resolutions then it would lower the bandwidth required and be a much more attractive.

I was talking with a non-tech type friend about this and he says "so you mean like a slingbox?" 
Not sure how I didn't know about this. 
http://www.slingbox.com

[Monkeh]

Well, this seems familiar.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/is-there-any-cheap-way-to-capture-hdmi-video-stream-on-linux/msg1334638/#msg1334638

The Hackaday link above is for the older examples.

[Richard Crowley]

If the question is more generally HD video over TCP-IP, a vendor has developed and released to open-source what looks like a promising protocol:

https://www.newtek.com/ndi/

[Monkeh]

Because we don't already have five competing standards.

[Smokey]

Because we don't already have five competing standards.

Obligatory XKCD link = https://xkcd.com/927/