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Re: A public apology for my possibly antagonising posts...
« Reply #50 on: January 27, 2011, 02:50:58 pm »
A hero is significantly less of one, when he uses unnecessarily derogatory language against other people.
 

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Re: A public apology for my possibly antagonising posts...
« Reply #51 on: January 27, 2011, 05:30:22 pm »
Lol, I really love the C word because it amuses me at how people find it so offensive despite being less bothered about other words with far more vulgar meanings i.e. shit or even bugger. If I'd said bugger no one probably would've batted an eyelid but I apparently used the worst of all. lol

That said, I suppose I was just testing the water. I wouldn't normally say that because I know many people don't like, even though I don't really know why - society has silly rules about what's offensive and what isn't.
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Re: A public apology for my possibly antagonising posts...
« Reply #52 on: January 27, 2011, 07:26:11 pm »
Lol, I really love the C word.
me too except its gender bias. it belong to woman, just as "dickhead" belong to us.
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Re: A public apology for my possibly antagonising posts...
« Reply #53 on: January 27, 2011, 07:31:20 pm »
Lol, I really love the C word.
me too except its gender bias. it belong to woman, just as "dickhead" belong to us.


At this point I have one question , if I say to some one :  You are my favorite "dickhead" .
What it would be his feelings ?  :D
 

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Re: A public apology for my possibly antagonising posts...
« Reply #54 on: January 27, 2011, 08:22:32 pm »
me too except its gender bias. it belong to woman, just as "dickhead" belong to us.
At this point I have one question , if I say to some one :  You are my favorite "dickhead" .
What it would be his feelings ?  :D
depends. normal guy will confused, abnormal guy will slap you, gay will be happy.
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Re: A public apology for my possibly antagonising posts...
« Reply #55 on: January 27, 2011, 08:29:27 pm »
Lol, I really love the C word because it amuses me at how people find it so offensive despite being less bothered about other words with far more vulgar meanings i.e. shit or even bugger. If I'd said bugger no one probably would've batted an eyelid but I apparently used the worst of all. lol

That said, I suppose I was just testing the water. I wouldn't normally say that because I know many people don't like, even though I don't really know why - society has silly rules about what's offensive and what isn't.

The bottom line is that it is an ugly word to use in public, no matter what your opinion of it. Simon, a mod, has agreed that it's not good to be using it on here, and I'm not attempting to tell you what it is his place to tell you, but I'd personally prefer you didn't use it again, and a mod has hinted it isn't good. Not only does it make you appear stupid (which I am sure you aren't) but it brings the tone of the community down to a ridiculously common level - the base level at which a lot of society seem to have numbed themselves into, feeling apparently comfortable with their being no taboos nor limits.

Stand for something, or you'll fall for anything. I don't personally find the word particularly offensive - I just read it, and made the snap judgement "this guy is a moron", and that isn't fair on you dude; I'm certain you aren't! :)

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Re: A public apology for my possibly antagonising posts...
« Reply #56 on: January 27, 2011, 08:32:29 pm »
The bottom line is that it is an ugly word to use in public...
now you are talking eh?
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Re: A public apology for my possibly antagonising posts...
« Reply #57 on: January 27, 2011, 08:40:27 pm »
The bottom line is that it is an ugly word to use in public...
now you are talking eh?


I am not talking, I am typing :P - and, as usual, I am sorry to say old chap, but I haven't the faintest idea of what you're getting at. It is possibly a language barrier - care to deliberate?
 

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Re: A public apology for my possibly antagonising posts...
« Reply #58 on: January 27, 2011, 09:25:09 pm »
Cunty McCunterton

Joe Rogan has a funny bit on 3 words that still have so much power in modern society and he lists that as one.  He does point out that its losing its steam, especially in American society.  Back in the 80s it used pack quite a bigger punch than it does now.  Its a dirty bit but its funny.  I couldn't find it on YouTube.
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Re: A public apology for my possibly antagonising posts...
« Reply #59 on: January 27, 2011, 09:35:54 pm »
I don't know what has come over these forums of late, we started with the F word a week or so ago, now the C word.

There is simply no need for it on these forums.
Other forums have penalty boxes and such like for such posts and they remain civil, and the posts (and any quoted replies) are culled swiftly.

Perhaps some proper moderation should be taking place for obviously offensive posts intended to troll a reaction.  >:(

 

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Re: A public apology for my possibly antagonising posts...
« Reply #60 on: January 27, 2011, 09:44:03 pm »
Come to think of it you're right. Yes I suppose you're all thinking no wonder you were banned for using language like that. Well the annoying thing was that I hadn't use the C word on that forum. I was venting my frustration in a place where I have the freedom to do so. In reflection using it in talking about my banning was probably a bad idea and I'm sorry if it offended anyone.
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Re: A public apology for my possibly antagonising posts...
« Reply #61 on: January 27, 2011, 09:46:36 pm »
The bottom line is that it is an ugly word to use in public...
now you are talking eh?

I am not talking, I am typing :P - and, as usual, I am sorry to say old chap, but I haven't the faintest idea of what you're getting at.

He's obviously referring to your thread on the Arduino in which you used (but obfuscated) the F word, the P word, and the BS word.
Hardly a moral upstanding display of Her Majesty's proper English!
(Yes, I can't talk, but at least I admit it)

In any case, why doesn't everyone bitch about technical stuff instead?

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Re: A public apology for my possibly antagonising posts...
« Reply #62 on: January 27, 2011, 09:54:31 pm »


In any case, why doesn't everyone bitch about technical stuff instead?

Dave.

Hey we do - but we don't need to lower the tone to the gutter in the process.

it is worth remembering that the word uttered face to face is lost in time. On an internet forum it lasts "forever" and can be read time and time again, adding no value to the discussion.
 

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Re: A public apology for my possibly antagonising posts...
« Reply #63 on: January 27, 2011, 09:56:06 pm »
The bottom line is that it is an ugly word to use in public...
now you are talking eh?

I am not talking, I am typing :P - and, as usual, I am sorry to say old chap, but I haven't the faintest idea of what you're getting at.

He's obviously referring to your thread on the Arduino in which you used (but obfuscated) the F word, the P word, and the BS word.
Hardly a moral upstanding display of Her Majesty's proper English!
(Yes, I can't talk, but at least I admit it)

In any case, why doesn't everyone bitch about technical stuff instead?

Dave.

I don't recall having denied using a foul mouth - I could hardly do so, as it's written in plain text on this very forum. My point is that although yeah, it's kinda hypocritical of me I admit, there are certain words that come across as harsher and more aggressive than others. I don't consider "fuck" or "dickhead" as overtly aggressive phrases, but maybe the world would be a better place (and less stressful) if we found suitable, and non-offensive replacements for them :P

I'm a man, in the true sense, I hope. I admit my failings, and I make no meal of apologising for being a complete idiot at times, but just because I was an idiot, doesn't mean people have the right to hold it against me, and nor does it mean that I am not entitled to my viewpoint on the usage of language - profane or otherwise :)

I find people give a LOT more respect to someone not using "fuck" this or "bloody" that every sentence. I speak for myself, and I'm not proud of the idiot I was initially, but I can only assume that this is forgiven and buried now, considering I am currently typing within my own apology thread, which is still as valid and heartfelt as it was when started :)

I have no time for stress and undue anxiety, I just want to be happy and teach more than I learn. Accept me for that please? :)

Thanks chaps
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Re: A public apology for my possibly antagonising posts...
« Reply #64 on: January 27, 2011, 09:57:31 pm »
I don't know what has come over these forums of late, we started with the F word a week or so ago, now the C word.

There is simply no need for it on these forums.
Other forums have penalty boxes and such like for such posts and they remain civil, and the posts (and any quoted replies) are culled swiftly.

Perhaps some proper moderation should be taking place for obviously offensive posts intended to troll a reaction.  >:(

There shouldn't be any need for moderation unless someone uses generally foul language continuously and out of context.

e.g. using the C word might be OK in the context of a story on some problem you had like "the problem turned out to be a real c***".

It's all a part of modern expressive language.
But out of general politeness, it would good if everyone could limit the use of such words, or find some more colourful alternatives.

But of course, given my fondness of several choice terms like bullshit and dickhead, the bar has already been set to a certain level :->

Dave.
 

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Re: A public apology for my possibly antagonising posts...
« Reply #65 on: January 27, 2011, 10:00:43 pm »
There is only one dirty word on this forum and it starts with A.
 

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Re: A public apology for my possibly antagonising posts...
« Reply #66 on: January 27, 2011, 10:00:54 pm »
Only a penishead would use the vagina word  ;D
 

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Re: A public apology for my possibly antagonising posts...
« Reply #67 on: January 27, 2011, 10:15:12 pm »
maybe Dave should make the filter if necessary, the same to A!tium, "!" instead of "l", i dont know.
Only a pen!shead would use the vag!na word  ;D
man! you should be banned! for using such a polite words.
this thread has reach 5 page already, i wonder how will be the guests looking at us.
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Re: A public apology for my possibly antagonising posts...
« Reply #68 on: January 27, 2011, 10:16:32 pm »
I generally agree with Dave's comments.

I post at several forums and haven't had a problem apart from ETO and Electronics Lab. As you all know I've been banned from ETO and many others left but Electronics Lab had a happier ending: the administrator took our side and removed the moderator status of the bully who left with his tale between his legs. Unfortunately the forum still isn't as busy as it used to be as lots of the members left. I hope the administrator of ETO changes his attitude before his forum goes the same way.

I generally get on quite well at the forums I post at which have different boundaries: some don't tolerate swearing at all as they're aimed at helping children with study and on others it's encouraged e.g. stop-microsoft.org which used to be fuckmicrosoft.com. Now I know what's acceptable here and what isn't I'll adopt my posting style accordingly.
 

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Re: A public apology for my possibly antagonising posts...
« Reply #69 on: January 27, 2011, 10:26:00 pm »
i recently joined another photography forum. it requires our attachment picture to be "inlined". WTF! and i can see the admin himself take into active action in reminding noobs, o well, different place different style, for me, i just follow the trend.
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Re: A public apology for my possibly antagonising posts...
« Reply #70 on: January 27, 2011, 10:35:12 pm »
maybe Dave should make the filter if necessary, the same to A!tium, "!" instead of "l", i dont know.

yes, the technology obviously exists to easily cull the most obvious offensive words - chucking in * or some such.

It must be remembered that the remark could easily be considered slanderous as it was openly directed at a particular person. It could get ugly.

The original heroic remark could be taken down by hero, but any quoted text only by a mod (or co-operating author).

To be honest I don't really care as it isn't my forums, but we should not let what has been a great generally polite forum degrade into mirth as people begin to realise that nobody gives a shit and the shit begins to flow freely in every post.  :P

 

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Re: A public apology for my possibly antagonising posts...
« Reply #71 on: January 27, 2011, 10:40:53 pm »
To be honest I don't really care as it isn't my forums, but we should not let what has been a great generally polite forum degrade into mirth as people begin to realise that nobody gives a shit and the shit begins to flow freely in every post.  :P
i agree. and the admin words...
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But out of general politeness, it would good if everyone could limit the use of such words, or find some more colourful alternatives.
must be understood carefully with sane and mature mind.
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Re: A public apology for my possibly antagonising posts...
« Reply #72 on: January 27, 2011, 10:56:59 pm »
It is truely fascinating how there can be so much fervent objection to just 4 little letters.  Its such a strange phenomenon of society.  What is it about us that allows such insignificance to be a source of disgust?  Is it even instinctual?  Is it how we are brought up?  Something that just rides the coat tails of each generation with all rational logical expanation for why the words should not be written or uttered lost through some messed up generational telephone effect?

This human condition is such a strange thing.






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Re: A public apology for my possibly antagonising posts...
« Reply #73 on: January 27, 2011, 11:30:15 pm »
It is truely fascinating how there can be so much fervent objection to just 4 little letters.  Its such a strange phenomenon of society.  What is it about us that allows such insignificance to be a source of disgust?  Is it even instinctual?  Is it how we are brought up?  Something that just rides the coat tails of each generation with all rational logical expanation for why the words should not be written or uttered lost through some messed up generational telephone effect?

This human condition is such a strange thing.

Are you just feigning ignorance for faceious effect? I'm sure you know perfectly well that is is not the letters themselves which cause the upset, but the formation of said word, and how said word is then projected, and within what context. Please don't try and be clever, you know full well what is meant, I am sure.






 

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Re: A public apology for my possibly antagonising posts...
« Reply #74 on: January 27, 2011, 11:47:12 pm »
It's always a tough call on offensive language.
Yes, I could block out all the offensive words, but everyone knows what they are and such style of talk will still be offensive to some anyway, even if obfuscated.
But in general I'm all for free speech and no censorship, so I think the best thing to do is for everyone to simply lead by example, and realise this is a general public forum, and the usual rules of public etiquette apply. i.e. if you want to express your emotions try and phrase things a bit more gently. After all, you do get a chance to think before you push that Post button.
If everyone talks without few or any foul language, then others who are prone to use the words more often will realise they stand out and look a bit foolish.

Anyone who complains about the occasional naughty word dropped is being a real party pooper I think, so occasional in-context use is fine. But I agree that those who drop the F bomb in every other post don't deserve to post in a civil public forum like this.

Even though I'm a big fan of bullshit, dickhead, and other colourful aussie phrases, on public forums I'll generally try to be a bit more universally civil and maybe use fool, twit, BS etc instead.

The only currently filtered word is indeed Altium, and I hope everyone understands the reasons for that.

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