RIP the "dream" plane

[tom66]

Pretty sure nearly every insurance policy under the sun excludes war, because the cost of war is usually catastrophic (and also insurance companies don't want the liability)

So is it just incompetence?

[coppercone2]

I think the concern is that people who work in aviation (related to a nations logistics) have more attention and exposure to/from foreign governments

In addition, it is reported that certain company employees were for a long time obstructing the Defence Forces in organizing air and ground defense of the airport.

that sounds pretty clear to me

Its a little hard to imagine you are that incompetent that you start arguing with the damn military. They don't usually have a problem taking over operations of whatever object. That sounds like they decided to get into a argument about airport operations details with the military during a crisis. What motivation could you have to do that?

Also, trying to make use of insurance, particularly on transportation equipment, that could be used for whatever (lets say evacuations), during a time of war, is extremely grimy. It's obvious that those kinds of things get quickly nationalized and very important during a crisis because it can move people and supplies.

[SiliconWizard]

So, what about all those guys who swore they would get it rebuilt? As I remember, even Richard Branson was ready to help.
How is that coming along?

[strawberry]

maybe Iron mayden could add it to their fleet

[Vovk_Z]

So, what about all those guys who swore they would get it rebuilt? As I remember, even Richard Branson was ready to help.
How is that coming along?

I may say as a Ukrainian: Russians can't take us and our country  (thank's to all Western help), so they just floor village-by-village and town-by-town where they can reach by their artillery. A large part of the country is ruined (Russian side) now, so as for me The Dream Plane is now somewhere at the bottom of the list of what to rebuild.

[strawberry]

I wonder how they still pay 128B$ debt
and we want to restore luxury planes

[james_s]

It's not a luxury plane, it's the largest cargo aircraft in the world. There is (was) only one of them, and it did things no other aircraft can do.

[Nusa]

So, what about all those guys who swore they would get it rebuilt? As I remember, even Richard Branson was ready to help.
How is that coming along?

They've got a war going on and infrastructure repairs that still take precedence. Also, if there's a big deal about active progress, it's literally inviting a missile to visit the build site.

Anyway, pretty much everyone technical agrees that the original is toast. Have you seen the pictures? But many parts from the original can help complete the never-finished 2nd AN-225. Never finished because financial backing wasn't there. But now that the 1st isn't around to service those unique requirements...

[Vovk_Z]

BTW, there is some news:
Antonov State Enterprise announced the construction of the second Mriya aircraft. It is already 30% ready

"The work is being done in a secret place. The second An-225 will be provided with both new parts and parts of the damaged aircraft," said Yevgeny Gavrilov, General Director of Antonov State Enterprise.
According to him, the second "Mriya" is already 30% ready. The cost of construction is estimated at €500 million. Leipzig/Halle international airport, where the Antonova airline is temporarily based and where the An-225 often flew, will help raise money.

[Nusa]

30% means they're getting realistic about the existing state of the 2nd, rather than the 60% they used to say when they were trying to raise funds.
Even in peacetime, this would be a multi-year project. In my opinion, I don't think there's any chance of a flying AN-225 before 2025. Just too many one-off things to fabricate without access to existing tooling, if it exists at all.

[vad]

Antonov should be working on 100,000 suicide drones that deliver 25 kg payloads to 1,500 km distance, rather than building a single jumbo plane that has 15,000 km range and 250,000 kg lift capacity.

[james_s]

Antonov should be working on 100,000 suicide drones that deliver 25 kg payloads to 1,500 km distance, rather than building a single jumbo plane that has 15,000 km range and 250,000 kg lift capacity.

Personally I would much rather see a gigantic cargo plane that can move loads no other plane in the world can move, than a bunch of devices with no other purpose than killing people.

[vad]

Personally I would much rather see a gigantic cargo plane that can move loads no other plane in the world can move, than a bunch of devices with no other purpose than killing people.

Personally I would rather see them building civil planes too. But Ukraine is at war, defending its land and people from invaders. The country has limited resources, including people who can design and build aircrafts. So they must prioritize. Today Ukraine needs long range capabilities to hit weapon depots, command centers, concentrations of troops, training camps and supply routes deep behind enemy lines. Not the jumbo plane.

PS. It is an honor to kill invaders who came to your country, and are murdering innocent civilians, rape your women and children.

[SiliconWizard]

Antonov should be working on 100,000 suicide drones that deliver 25 kg payloads to 1,500 km distance, rather than building a single jumbo plane that has 15,000 km range and 250,000 kg lift capacity.

Personally I would much rather see a gigantic cargo plane that can move loads no other plane in the world can move, than a bunch of devices with no other purpose than killing people.

Indeed.   

[nctnico]

Antonov should be working on 100,000 suicide drones that deliver 25 kg payloads to 1,500 km distance, rather than building a single jumbo plane that has 15,000 km range and 250,000 kg lift capacity.

Personally I would much rather see a gigantic cargo plane that can move loads no other plane in the world can move, than a bunch of devices with no other purpose than killing people.

Couldn't agree more. Before the plane got destroyed, it had helped distribute Covid vaccines -at least according to a Dutch newspaper-.

[coppercone2]

not everyone is a klingon