Raspberry Pi 3

[Monkeh]

I never said it was mine. Far better things to spend money on..

[timb]

Wait, what? Soft UART?! Really?! Christ on a Cracker. Most SoCs have like a ton of UARTs (the Sitara on the BBB has at least 5 full UARTs with hardware flow control for example) so I assumed the BCM would have at least two. How could they think this was a good idea? Talk about amateur hour...

For twice the price?

This was a SoC originally designed for mobile phones. Phones which usually contain more than one radio, with each radio requiring a UART for baseband or firmware programming. (Some units can do it over SPI or other high speed links now, but it wasn't common when this SoC was originally designed.)

I don't have access to this BCM's TRM, but I assume it does in fact have multiple UARTs. If I had to guess, I'd say either they originally planned to share the single UART between the BT module and header *or* it was an afterthought. Maybe they had routing issues? Or pin assignment problems. It could even be a bug in the SoC.

Whatever the reason, it seems like a glaring oversight. To be honest, I'm surprised they went with a UART based BT module. SPI is very common for BT modules. Hell, they could have even used a combo BT/WiFi chip that talks over the memory interface! (Those are expensive though, so I can understand why they didn't.)

There's a nice Maxim SPI to UART bridge chip that even has a Linux driver. I should design and sell a hat with a couple of those on it. I bet it would sell well now.

[R_Gtx]

That is one toasty die. Under what conditions was that achieved?

The new RPi3 should pull 0.65A @ 5V when loaded fully, most of which will be dissipated in the CPU. That's 3.2 watts.

There is a discussion here

[tszaboo]

I'll just leave this here.

So now, not only do you need a plastic case, and external non-standard  (2.5A) USB "charger" a powered hub, an SD card adapter, an SD card, bunch of software,  to have a very slow computer, but also a heatsink. And a ton of time to make a usable operating system, which will still lack space, usability, since it is either a crippleware widows or linux.

Meanwhile in a parallel universe, mini pcs are sold for 150 Euros. Or used pcs are picked up for free.
Makes total sense. At least they soldered the header.

[atcurtis]

I am personally more interested if a 3 A model comes out with bluetooth/wifi.
Given the stock of Pis I have, I think I will probably not get a 3 B unless if I actually need it.

[problemchild]

I think the 2.5 A is a potential feature as  this was more about how much current the unit could deliver to the USB peripherals rather than what it required for it's self. That said you will still need to get the big 5V PSU out to power it as you said. The real PITA is that most of those larger 5V supplies have a DC Jack rather than a micro USB... think I may have a few 2 A units at home! L8R!

I'll just leave this here.

So now, not only do you need a plastic case, and external non-standard  (2.5A) USB "charger" a powered hub, an SD card adapter, an SD card, bunch of software,  to have a very slow computer, but also a heatsink. And a ton of time to make a usable operating system, which will still lack space, usability, since it is either a crippleware widows or linux.

Meanwhile in a parallel universe, mini pcs are sold for 150 Euros. Or used pcs are picked up for free.
Makes total sense. At least they soldered the header.

[problemchild]

Ha Forgot to put a link to my RPI 3 vid ... Only first impressions at the moment since I'm stuck in my Hotel until Thursday night when I'll do more in depth stuff

[TonyPh]

Tempted to get one to replace the Pi B I use on my TV in the bedroom. Thing is the Pi B does everything I need of it....

I could also replace the Odroid C1 I use downstairs but that does everything I need of it too, and does Gigabit ethernet...

Was poised over the buy button but sense prevailed. Will buy when I find a reason to buy. Pi 4 maybe.

[briandorey]

After spending most of the day trying to get the serial console to work via the GPIO header and using a script from https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=107&t=138223 to remap the hardware uart from the bluetooth module to the GPIO pins, its time to give up and stick with using the Pi 2 for projects until they sort out the overheating issues and broken serial support

Even with the Pi 3 just using a ssh console the processor is getting too hot to touch. On the plus side i can always use it to keep the cup of tea warm

[timb]

Just get a small heatsink. I've always used the 1"X1" solid copper heatsinks for my Pis. You can buy them in 8 packs for less than $10 on Amazon.

[Stonent]

Does this one have the reboot with camera flash feature?

[fantis1337]

Not gonna bother with the newest pi. Have my pi2 that has worked wonders for the projects I have used it on.

[Fred27]

I doesn't seem to be about need.

Nobody *needed* a Pi Zero. Unless you were ready to go with a finished design that needed to be smaller, an existing Pi would do the job. That didn't stop them selling out though.

[stejep]

I have too many of these things already, the original Pi, the Pi 2, a couple of Udoo's, oh the Pi Nano, and waiting on the Pine A64 from kickstarter.

I think I am going to stop, looks like there are too many of these things coming out of the wood work and they are just getting better. If we wait say a year, what are they going to be doing ?

[Kilrah]

This 

https://www.crowdsupply.com/krtkl/snickerdoodle