9th Grader Arrested in Houston for making ... a clock.

[EEVblog]

Actually this amazing invention, which should have been seen by teachers as a work of genius by a promising young engineer looks to have been hard work...

 

And that right there is the other problem with the world.
Lets make fun of the kid because what he did was trivially easy.
Do you have kids?
How would you like it if your kid bought a project to school and the teacher and everyone else laughed at them because they thought it was too easy/pathetic/*insert other terms here*.

Even Ahmed admitted it was easy and IIRC only took him 20 minutes.

[ez24]

Truthfully I think this will be a millstone around this kid's neck for the rest of his life and we have his father to thyank for it.

You know what they say about Karma....

Yes maybe Obama will give him this when he goes to the White House for his outstanding achievement:

"An especially meritorious contribution to the security or national interests of the United States, world peace, cultural or other significant public or private endeavors."[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Medal_of_Freedom

( PS this can hang around the neck)

[mtdoc]

Also noted that you dodged my question.

You've asked no legitimate question of me - just repeatedly tried to create personal conflict.

Give it a rest Zapta.

Incorrect, it's you that engaged in name calling, no me.

I have called no one on this forum any names.

My question is very specific:

"Do you also call out those that without proof blame the school and police with racism in this case?"

And your question is not meant to solicit information - only to create conflict.

FWIW - I have already stated that IMO it is not racism but islamophobia that is the issue here. 

Do you deny that Islamophobia is an issue in our society?   

[Joule Thief]

If circumstances require any family members to relocate to a more enlightened or "progressive" area, the boy's uncle owns a trucking.

Anyone want to venture a guess as to the name of the trucking company?

"Twin Towers Trucking"

[cimmo]

Also noted that you dodged my question.

You've asked no legitimate question of me - just repeatedly tried to create personal conflict.

Give it a rest Zapta.

Apparently this is what he does - has nothing of actual value to bring to the discussion, but still feels compelled to criticize everyone else's opinion on mere trivialities - reducing the signal to noise ratio considerably.
Some might call this 'being a bit of a troll'? But, I guess that's the easiest way of making 4000+ posts.

[Macbeth]

Do you have kids?

Sadly not, but I certainly remember being one - and at 14 I didn't think I was a kid, but a young man. I could be a bit of a cunt too, at least with the teachers I didn't like.

I've plenty experience with family members kids though, but that doesn't count does it?

I'm sad to see you use that old fallacy, Dave...

[EEVblog]

Sadly not, but I certainly remember being one - and at 14 I didn't think I was a kid, but a young man. I could be a bit of a cunt too, at least with the teachers I didn't like.
I've plenty experience with family members kids though, but that doesn't count does it?
I'm sad to see you use that old fallacy, Dave...

I'm not the one making fun and laughing at something a 14yo kid made. Instead I'm encouraging him to improve and do better.
Who's got the better argument?

[linux-works]

Anyone want to venture a guess as to the name of the trucking company?

"Twin Towers Trucking"

I did a search on that company name.  I saw LOTS of hits, all over the country.  it seems like its a common name, for some odd reason.  I see florida and tennessee as well as new york, listed.

and if you take certain phrases from some books, do a rotated XOR and then a rot13, you can sometimes end up with the mathematical checksum of 0x0666.

"makes you think!" ...

(lol)

[Macbeth]

I'm not the one making fun and laughing at something a 14yo kid made. Instead I'm encouraging him to improve and do better.
Who's got the better argument?

Well we both don't know the real story, the teachers involved aren't allowed to discuss it, while the dad and his CAIR chums are blasting it everywhere to fit their agenda.

Maybe I am too cynical and this 14 year old is just a bit special? Don't let fatherhood cloud the difference between a 4 year old and a 14 year old.

[ez24]

You do not have to be 14 and Muslim to be stupid

http://tech.mit.edu/V127/N40/simpson.html

Notice she also had an attitude.  I think both of them escalated the situation.

[EEVblog]

Well we both don't know the real story, the teachers involved aren't allowed to discuss it, while the dad and his CAIR chums are blasting it everywhere to fit their agenda.

The real story is a different issue. You are the one laughing at 14yo kid for a project he did
 

Maybe I am too cynical and this 14 year old is just a bit special? Don't let fatherhood cloud the difference between a 4 year old and a 14 year old.

There you go again...

[hamster_nz]

Well we both don't know the real story, the teachers involved aren't allowed to discuss it, while the dad and his CAIR chums are blasting it everywhere to fit their agenda.

Maybe I am too cynical and this 14 year old is just a bit special? Don't let fatherhood cloud the difference between a 4 year old and a 14 year old.

Everybody casts everything to fit their agenda/world view. We do it all the time, it is how people make sense of things.I remember when I was 13, we had woodwork at as a subject. We made pencil cases so on. Putting a clock in a box would have been a fun way to waste half an hour playing with scrapheap junk. I can understand why he would do it - I've got a half finished 8" high LED clock kicking around somewhere I am building.

If putting something in a different box is such a sin then whole "Maker movement" is in trouble.... "Look at me, I sewed this LED module onto my hat... and it changes with temperature! An't I smart". They might as well stop having fun and start 3D printing trinkets instead. Or fly quadcopters down at the park - is that illegal in the US yet? it is here....

[Macbeth]

You do not have to be 14 and Muslim to be stupid

http://tech.mit.edu/V127/N40/simpson.html

Notice she also had an attitude.  I think both of them escalated the situation.

I've got nothing against either of these people for exposing the ridiculous security theatre that exists since 9/11.

I guess we will see in a decade if this kid works for NASA or CAIR...

[AF6LJ]

Here is one for ya...
The guy who owned Harvy's Casino in Reno and Lake Tahoe NV was an amateur radio operator and after the investigation discussed wiht friends on 7.255
From Hack A Day..
http://hackaday.com/2015/09/21/this-is-what-a-real-bomb-looks-like/

[EEVblog]

I guess we will see in a decade if this kid works for NASA or CAIR...

It might not be NASA if people keep laughing at him and calling him a fraud.

[linux-works]

Notice she also had an attitude.  I think both of them escalated the situation.

what's an 'attitude' and how does that enter into anything?

[AF6LJ]

I guess we will see in a decade if this kid works for NASA or CAIR...

It might not be NASA if people keep laughing at him and calling him a fraud.

I am convinced his father set him up for political reasons.

[dr.diesel]

I am convinced his father set him up for political reasons.

I'm fighting as hard as I can, but beginning to agree.  Someone PLEASE help me, this truth would be so disappointing....   

[linux-works]

I am convinced his father set him up for political reasons.

as has been said before, what the kid ended up doing was creating a bigotry detector.

of course, we all see things from our own bias.  some people assume malice on the part of the kid or his family.  others don't see it that way at all.

at this point, the subject matter is more a social commentary on us than it is on that family....

[retrolefty]

I guess we will see in a decade if this kid works for NASA or CAIR...

It might not be NASA if people keep laughing at him and calling him a fraud.

I am convinced his father set him up for political reasons.

 Convinced with such noisy evidence? I don't have an emotional or subjective dog in this fight so I can just keep watching for any real facts that might materialize before deciding if the kid was just being a kid or being part of a different agenda.

[AF6LJ]

I guess we will see in a decade if this kid works for NASA or CAIR...

It might not be NASA if people keep laughing at him and calling him a fraud.

I am convinced his father set him up for political reasons.

 Convinced with such noisy evidence? I don't have an emotional or subjective dog in this fight so I can just keep watching for any real facts that might materialize before deciding if the kid was just being a kid or being part of a different agenda.

So tell me;
How do you sort facts from propaganda?

If it walks like a duck
If it talks like a duck...
If it quacks like a duck and leaves greasy crap on the ground it must be a duck.

[mtdoc]

Convinced with such noisy evidence?

Good point yet I have yet to see any  evidence - just a lot of speculation and innuendo coming from heavily political web sites and blogs. 

I am open to the idea that his father encouraged this but as I and others have pointed out - it's not really relevant to the underlying issue and the preoccupation with it is, IMO, an attempt to divert attention away from the more important issues raised by the event.

[AF6LJ]

At this point I am highly concerned about the damage done to this child.

[hamster_nz]

I'm fighting as hard as I can, but beginning to agree.  Someone PLEASE help me, this truth would be so disappointing....   

We have no reason to believe that the posters on this board are honest, sane people, and not some right-wing zealots trying to manipulate us into agreeing with them through a war of attrition.

Do they have more information or insight than us? no, not likely.

Do they have an agenda to push? most likely.

Take heart in this quote... "If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself."

Hopefully they are actually nice kind kind-hearted people who have just been brainwashed, even by themselves...

[retrolefty]

So tell me;
How do you sort facts from propaganda?

 The secret is taking proper time before making a strong judgement. It's the internet, one can find arguments to support or not support near anything. Facts take time to come to light.

 I do agree with the adage that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence supplied by the claimant.