Gossen Metrahit 25S

[nukie]

Don't know if this is a bargain, aussie fellas here you go
http://store.transtek.com.au/ttekstore/catalogue/c2/c10/c16/c17

[Bored@Work]

An interesting remark on that page

GMC meters are ... not affiliated in any way with the 'look-alike' Rishabh (Indian manufactured) brand.

I looked up this Rishabh company, and as you can see from the banner on this site http://www.rishabh.co.in/test_measuring_inst.html they even copy GMC's style of probes.

And they don't stop there. Here they offer some software http://www.rishabh.co.in/rishcom_100_software.html Compare the Rishabh image with the title page of Gossen's METRAwin 10's manual http://www.gossenmetrawatt.com/resources/tt/win10/ba_d.pdf

For extra fun, count the number of times they use the word "German" on this page http://www.rishabh.co.in/management.html while they desperately to try to give themselves the image of a "German quality" company. Shame, shame, shame, shame.

[saturation]

Interesting, first near clone I've seen of Gossen.  On the good side, copying means its highly popular in its field.

[Kiriakos-GR]

Well if the Gossen products costs in India , the amount of money that one family with two Kids needs ,
so to survive for 12 months ..

I am ready to accept the idea, that their lower priced clones , could be an positive option.


 

[Bored@Work]

Your statement doesn't make sense. It is not a requirement to copy someone else's look to build an affordable meter. It is purely a question of business ethics.

[Kiriakos-GR]

I am challenging you , to create one drawing  of one multimeter that it will not look similar ,
with any other , all ready made on this planet.  

If you do an so exceptional work , I bet that you will payed extremely well.
Some one will love to have your design, in his products.

But hey , I just got a new idea ... lets make a new thread with the title :

" Design the look of your own favorite DMM "  

[qno]

This could be the real thing.

The series marketed by Rish are the discontinued models of Gossen.
Check the webpage of gossen.

Gossen now only sell's the Extra series tested by Dave.

They probably did not want to trash the R&D spend on the previous series.
They either sold a licence to produce the meters in India or build the same meter with a slightly changed look to less demanding markets.
Somtimes it is better to be your own competitor.

Remember that the blocking principle of the current or voltage inputs of the meter are patented features of Gossen.
As Rish advertises with this features it will probably be with permission of Gossen or someone is not paying attention at the Gossen patent office.

 

[Kiriakos-GR]

They probably did not want to trash the R&D spend on the previous series.

I can accept that , I have see this happens , and in the motorcycles market,
Honda sold the R&D of the engine of my own 250 CC motorcycle (20 years old) to China.

The Italian VESPA sold their R&D to India , about all the old fashion models.   

[saturation]

Even more interesting, they write they have direct connection to Gossen as collaborators:

http://www.rishabh.co.in/technical_know_how.html

http://www.rishabh.co.in/collaborations.html

http://www.greatoffers4u.com/u/rishabh/about-us/

This could be the real thing.

The series marketed by Rish are the discontinued models of Gossen.
Check the webpage of gossen.

Gossen now only sell's the Extra series tested by Dave.

They probably did not want to trash the R&D spend on the previous series.
They either sold a licence to produce the meters in India or build the same meter with a slightly changed look to less demanding markets.
Somtimes it is better to be your own competitor.

Remember that the blocking principle of the current or voltage inputs of the meter are patented features of Gossen.
As Rish advertises with this features it will probably be with permission of Gossen or someone is not paying attention at the Gossen patent office.

[nukie]

I don't think it's a clone or copy based on the understanding of Indian culture. I believe it's the real shit.

http://www.zedflo.com.au/Uploads/Downloads/ComparisonDataSheetDMMs.pdf

Rish 16S is $240AU+GST
http://www.multimetercalibrationsaustralia.com.au/onlineshopmultimeters.html

I don't know who wrote the below statement but apparently it looks like a technology transfer between the two companies, but in any case I still prefer Made in Germany  
http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/metrawatt_metrahit_digital_multime.html

And straight from the boss, http://www.thehindubusinessline.in/2002/12/13/stories/2002121301870200.htm

The products are available either under their own brand `Rishabh' or that of the overseas partners.

It recently entered into a contract with Gossen-Metrawatt GmbH for supply of digital multi-meters for sales in the EU and US markets.

This was 2002 and it makes me wonder which of the parts in Gossen DMMs is made in India  

Finally,
http://www.ecademy.com/account.php?op=cv&id=426277

Looks like this guy visited Gossen in year 2000 for a technology transfer. Maybe we can ask him about the meters he designed for Rishabh.

[ciccio]

I've never heard before of  RISHAB, but after a visit to their site I'm really impressed.
It is clear that they manufacture products under license of other manufacturers, but their range is wide and the products interesting.
They are not cloners or copiers.
I think that Metrawatt's patents on their ingenious mechanical locking system of inputs have expired, because I've seen similar solutions on Chinese meters, but these Rishab meters are identical to the older Metrawatts.
The molding and the LCD are the same.
Any information about prices?

[Amarbir[Lynx-India]]

Well,
      As This Post Talks about my country and in perticular multimeters from one of the most rugged multimeters manufacturers in my country .I will take a small initiative and talk with the management of the company to send dave some samples if they agree .On the other hand i would like to tell you that we have a local sub distributor in my own city who sells these meters ,They are extremely rugged and real kick ass products and last years in labs where they are thrown left and right  .Definately not expensive  here too .

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Well,
      As This Post Talks about my country and in perticular multimeters from one of the most rugged multimeters manufacturers in my country .I will take a small initiative and talk with the management of the company to send dave some samples if they agree .On the other hand i would like to tell you that we have a local sub distributor in my own city who sells these meters ,They are extremely rugged and real kick ass products and last years in labs where they are thrown left and right  .Definately not expensive  here too .

I hate to trouble you, Amarbir, but if during the past few months you have acquired more detailed information on these Rish-Gossens, please could you share it.

[Amarbir[Lynx-India]]

Well,
      As This Post Talks about my country and in perticular multimeters from one of the most rugged multimeters manufacturers in my country .I will take a small initiative and talk with the management of the company to send dave some samples if they agree .On the other hand i would like to tell you that we have a local sub distributor in my own city who sells these meters ,They are extremely rugged and real kick ass products and last years in labs where they are thrown left and right  .Definately not expensive  here too .

I hate to trouble you, Amarbir, but if during the past few months you have acquired more detailed information on these Rish-Gossens, please could you share it.

Well,
      I do not get troubled that easily  .Here you go -> http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?ukey=search&searchstring=rishabh&did=177&sort=Price&direction=ASC&show_all=yes

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Well,
      As This Post Talks about my country and in perticular multimeters from one of the most rugged multimeters manufacturers in my country .I will take a small initiative and talk with the management of the company to send dave some samples if they agree .On the other hand i would like to tell you that we have a local sub distributor in my own city who sells these meters ,They are extremely rugged and real kick ass products and last years in labs where they are thrown left and right  .Definately not expensive  here too .

I hate to trouble you, Amarbir, but if during the past few months you have acquired more detailed information on these Rish-Gossens, please could you share it.

Well,
      I do not get troubled that easily  .Here you go -> http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?ukey=search&searchstring=rishabh&did=177&sort=Price&direction=ASC&show_all=yes

Great, thanks! What are the shipping costs to the UK?

[Amarbir[Lynx-India]]

Well,
     Which One Is of particular interest to you in these models Any Why .Might be i am other can they pour our comments out we are all here to learn and earn from each other .I am of the opinion that if there is something better out there it should be purchased instead of a POS someone is trying to buy .I can only comment once you tell me what model you like to buy .One thing these are solid like a tank and will work for years

[grenert]

One thing these are solid like a tank and will work for years

Take it apart!   

[ivan747]

They do look very interesting indeed. Great material for teardown tuesday. FYI, 5000 indian rupees ~= US$100.