AMscope 10-20x sub $20USD delivered

[beanflying]

  Con or real I have ordered on on the bay of evil and made sure payment was via paypal .....


https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AmScope-10X-20X-LED-Binocular-Stereo-Microscope-Boom-Arm-LED-Gooseneck/182892552363?epid=16003300478&hash=item2a953ee0ab:g:m4YAAOSwPDBaBpuE


Grab them while they are hot (or is that a bad choice of words) 

[bitseeker]

Fake. I saw some power supplies that were too cheap. Also posted by sellers with no reputation. Disappeared a few days later.

[beanflying]

I would suspect so too but covered by paypal presents a fairly low to zero risk. Only paypal will be out of pocket.

I have a couple of very nice model gliders I got for $1.37 and not $137 when a very very well known online seller slipped a decimal or two so it does happen 

[Brumby]

If you get anything delivered at that price, I'd bet pounds to pence the optics wouldn't be worth the time to set it up.

But my top bet is that you will be dealing with PayPal down the track.

[beanflying]

If anything does eventuate the stand is worth $25.

Seems the going rate is $230-250 AUD which is one decimal removed from that listing.

I have dealt with Paypal before 

[ataradov]

Let us know what happens. I'll sit this one out.

[ez24]

There was recent scam (and I joined it) on a clamp meter.  The seller would ship something somewhere (not to the customer) to show up in tracking.  Requesting a refund was fast and easy.  The seller made money by people not requesting a refund.

It was interesting but I will let the OP have the fun in learning this lesson.  It is a scam that works, but if you stay on top of this, you will not lose money.  Only if you forget.  I think this will be a big scam on eBay and I hope eBay can figure out how to stop this.

[ataradov]

and I hope eBay can figure out how to stop this.

I don't think they want to. They are making money on this scam as well. Otherwise they would not make it very hard to report bad listings.

[beanflying]

There was recent scam (and I joined it) on a clamp meter.  The seller would ship something somewhere (not to the customer) to show up in tracking.  Requesting a refund was fast and easy.  The seller made money by people not requesting a refund.

It was interesting but I will let the OP have the fun in learning this lesson.  It is a scam that works, but if you stay on top of this, you will not lose money.  Only if you forget.  I think this will be a big scam on eBay and I hope eBay can figure out how to stop this.

A little condescending aren't you?  I am more than aware it is likely a scam but at virtually zero risk

[wraper]

Almost every month someone starts such stupid tread  . Then a lot of people buy such scam, then for a few months they waste their time discussing how they did not receive anything and their experience with refunds. 

[ChrisLX200]

Ever wondered why Ebay and PayPal fees are so high? Yes, you do pay for these scams.

[nanofrog]

Ever wondered why Ebay and PayPal fees are so high? Yes, you do pay for these scams.

Exactly.

[beanflying]

  defend the big corporations profiteering while slugging the poor innocent seller/buyer take it up with evilbay who do ZERO about legitimate issues with their big sellers and those costs would be far far more in $ terms ..... 

Seriously you all need to lighten up the medicine man show, scams and flimflam men have been around for year or two before evilbay and whining here isn't going to stop those intent on taking advantage. Shame these days tarring and feathering them is a bit harder than it used to be.

And if you go after me personally don't let the low post count here fool you. I have been on forums, chat and newsgroups since the new fangled 14.4k AOL modems came out and importing 5 and 6 figures sums of product for others and myself for over 20 years from around the world.

[Towger]

Well that did not last long:

Your recent eBay transaction may be from a compromised account

Hello x,
You were recently involved in a transaction for the following item: 
182892552363 - AmScope 10X-20X LED Binocular Stereo Microscope Boom Arm + LED Gooseneck
We’re writing to let you know that an unauthorised third party may have accessed the seller’s account to list this item. The item has been removed from the site, and the transaction was cancelled.

[macboy]

Ever wondered why Ebay and PayPal fees are so high? Yes, you do pay for these scams.

Sure, but with a net income of $7.27B last year (that's $7,270,000,000.00) you are also paying maybe just a teeny bit of those fees to line the pockets of ebay executives and shareholders.

[ChrisLX200]

Quote from: macboy on Today at 05:06:15 AM>Quote from: ChrisLX200 on Yesterday at 07:08:00 PM

Ever wondered why Ebay and PayPal fees are so high? Yes, you do pay for these scams.

Sure, but with a net income of $7.27B last year (that's $7,270,000,000.00) you are also paying maybe just a teeny bit of those fees to line the pockets of ebay executives and shareholders.

Of course they are only interested in profit, and that's how they run their business, maximise profit at the expense of everyone else - including their own workers (not senior managers or shareholders). They could easily cover the cost of fraud out of profits but do you think they would do that or do you think they add those costs onto what they charge you for using their services? Part of their excuse for charging such exhorbitant rates is they have to cover fixed costs which include fraud. They have managers who's sole job it is to reduce fixed costs - minimise workers wages, and reduce any financial burden which subtracts from their bottom line.

[Brumby]

What I would be interested in - is the daily funds movement details for PayPal.  A couple of weeks' worth would be enough.

Consider the value of funds that pass through their hands - and the time it "takes".  You come up with a number that is impressive - and it's like a dam.  Water flows in and water flows out, but there is still that huge body of water that sits there.  Yes, it is completely replaced every few days (on paper, anyway) but that volume of water still sits there behind the dam wall.

So, what do you do with all that water ... just look at it?  Maybe - but if it's money, you'd be mad to do that.

Take the fourth quarter of 2016.  PayPal handled $99 billion in total payment volume.  Let's call it $1 billion a day.  Assuming all those funds are drawn in from other financial institutions, "processed" and then 5 days later are deposited in other financial institutions, then PayPal will have a $5 billion "float".  If you were to take into account the funds that account holders keep in their "PayPal Balance", this number goes up.

So what would you do with a $5 billion float?  If it were me, I'd be looking at the short term money market for starters.

The thing about this arrangement is that it is soooooo easy to cover bad investments or - which is a real operating risk - getting caught out by wild exchange rate fluctuations ... just slow up the passage of funds.  Make it take 10 days instead of 5 and you have an extra $5bn to play with.  (Does anyone remember any such "coincidental" events like this?  I do.)

Now, I don't pretend that these figures are completely accurate for the purpose of calculating share dividends - but they are an indication of the order of magnitude of what is in play.


In a nutshell - PayPal isn't going to be worried too much by fraud at this scale.


IMHO

[cdev]

I recently got a cute little Aomekie scope for $35 that I find I use a lot. Its 20x.

Its small, for a stereo microscope. Its kind of childs size but the eyepieces are adjustable and the optics are pretty good. Its light. I have been looking for some kind of strap or something so I can wear it like a headlamp. That would be just perfect.

A few other folks from here have also gotten it and like it.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/repair/diy-handheld-microscope/msg1298690/#msg1298690

[beanflying]

Interesting fallout, the account was a genuine US account that was opened in 2010 and purchases were made in the last 12 months on it.

However it was hacked by the owner of a Russian paypal account. Funds transfer cancelled by me which will save having to  paypal.

Just paid a visit this morning to our now NON local bank as they saw fit to close our only local one in a town of 2000+ and growing. The Branch I went to today suspects they will be gone in the next 4 or 5 years too. All in the name of corporate greed yes ANZ I am talking about you.

For non Australians our big four banks make in the order of $30B AUD or $25B USD if you like a year. The first full service automated non staffed branches exist already. 

Ebay are amateurs 

[wraper]

Interesting fallout, the account was a genuine US account that was opened in 2010 and purchases were made in the last 12 months on it.

However it was hacked by the owner of a Russian paypal account. Funds transfer cancelled by me which will save having to  paypal.

I see you have a lot of spare time to waste. Why would you need to waste your time driving to the bank. Funds were already going back  .

The item has been removed from the site, and the transaction was cancelled.

[beanflying]

I see you have a lot of spare time to waste. Why would you need to waste your time driving to the bank. Funds were already going back  .

Nice to see you know what my bank and I DIDN'T discuss relating to my actual Business this morning. My paypal account and my business accounts are strangely enough not connected 

[bitseeker]

I have a couple of very nice model gliders I got for $1.37 and not $137 when a very very well known online seller slipped a decimal or two so it does happen 

Amazing they honored it considering how far they slipped that decimal place.

[beanflying]

Not much choice. Australian Warehouse delivered for that large Hong Kong online shop. Advertised price is advertised price in this country 

[bitseeker]

Awesome