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Re: New Agilent scopes
« Reply #400 on: July 16, 2011, 02:43:28 pm »
Hey, How do the trial licences work? If they expire do the work again if I set the clock backwards? Or once they expire is is already too late? Also anyone figure out how to backup the memory?

make a backup of them and if they expire you can reinstall them. After install set the date 2 years back so you dont have to worry about it all the time
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Re: New Agilent scopes
« Reply #401 on: July 16, 2011, 05:09:03 pm »
how do you make a backup of them? Doesn't the scope permanently remember if a trial ever expires and then permanently ban that trial from ever being installed again?
 

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Re: New Agilent scopes
« Reply #402 on: July 17, 2011, 01:14:14 am »
You don't really need to make a backup, as such. The license is a file that gets sent to you by email and then installed into the scope, so just don't delete the original file.

The scope doesn't bother to blacklist anything, so if a license expires you can just roll the clock back and reinstall it. Easy.
 

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Re: New Agilent scopes
« Reply #403 on: July 17, 2011, 07:14:13 am »
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Re: New Agilent scopes
« Reply #404 on: July 17, 2011, 10:26:56 am »
You don't really need to make a backup, as such. The license is a file that gets sent to you by email and then installed into the scope, so just don't delete the original file.

The scope doesn't bother to blacklist anything, so if a license expires you can just roll the clock back and reinstall it. Easy.
Anyone tried this on the older MSO5000/6000 series?
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Re: New Agilent scopes
« Reply #405 on: July 17, 2011, 12:36:07 pm »
MSO/DPO2000 Series vs. Agilent MSO/DSO2000 X-Series Fact Sheet

I love it how Tek's only major comeback is that "we have serial decode stuff" and Agilent don't, and more memory and some search/trigger capability.
Classic cherry picking marketing.
Forget price, the wavegen option, and the huge screen and update rate differences!

Agilent weren't even scared enough by that comparison to even include a serial option at this stage.

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Re: New Agilent scopes
« Reply #406 on: July 17, 2011, 02:25:11 pm »
It will be nice for them to enable that dormant button and add some memory to shut Tek up for good :)

 

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« Reply #407 on: July 17, 2011, 04:35:23 pm »
Classic cherry picking marketing.
As usual for these kinds of comparisons.

Forget price, the wavegen option, and the huge screen and update rate differences!
I love your mention of price and wavegen option in the same sentence. Look, this scope is cheaper! And you can even get an overpriced function generator option!
 

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Re: New Agilent scopes
« Reply #408 on: July 17, 2011, 05:06:37 pm »
Video comparison
http://www2.tek.com/cmswpt/pidetails.lotr?ct=PI&cs=cpc&ci=18611&lc=EN

How would you trigger on that runt pulse (in the video comparison) with the Agilent?  Is it even important to be able to trigger on it, as long as you could see it?
 

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Re: New Agilent scopes
« Reply #409 on: July 17, 2011, 10:53:52 pm »
Video comparison
http://www2.tek.com/cmswpt/pidetails.lotr?ct=PI&cs=cpc&ci=18611&lc=EN

How would you trigger on that runt pulse (in the video comparison) with the Agilent?  Is it even important to be able to trigger on it, as long as you could see it?
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Re: New Agilent scopes
« Reply #410 on: July 18, 2011, 12:12:29 am »
It will be nice for them to enable that dormant button and add some memory to shut Tek up for good :)

Yeah, I DARE them!

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Re: New Agilent scopes
« Reply #411 on: July 18, 2011, 12:16:56 am »
I love your mention of price and wavegen option in the same sentence. Look, this scope is cheaper! And you can even get an overpriced function generator option!

At least it's an option if people want it, and a handy one. Even with the option I think it's still cheaper than the equivalent Tek scope.
All Agilent option, including WavGen are cheaper than the Tek options are, which are $725  each:

http://store.tektronix.com/Tektronix-DPO2014-Digital-Phosphor-Oscilloscope/dp/B004FSP7AG?ie=UTF8&id=Tektronix%20DPO2014%20Digital%20Phosphor%20Oscilloscope&field_product_site_launch_date_utc=-1y&field_availability=-1&field_browse=2245043011&searchSize=12&searchNodeID=2245043011&searchPage=1&refinementHistory=brandtextbin%2Csubjectbin%2Ccolor_map%2Cprice%2Csize_name&searchRank=salesrank

Education people get WavGen for free, and everyone can get it for free at the moment with the special offer.

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Re: New Agilent scopes
« Reply #412 on: July 18, 2011, 02:14:21 am »
How would you trigger on that runt pulse (in the video comparison) with the Agilent?  Is it even important to be able to trigger on it, as long as you could see it?

You can't. That's one of the areas Agilent crippled the 3000 to make the 2000. The Tek in the video costs about 35% more than the Agilent and that's after they cut the price by 25%. Without that 25% price cut the Tek would be around 15% more expensive than the Agilent 3000 equivalent and comparison with that model would be really embarrassing.

 

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Re: New Agilent scopes
« Reply #413 on: July 18, 2011, 08:43:39 am »
The Tek in the video costs about 35% more than the Agilent and that's after they cut the price by 25%. Without that 25% price cut the Tek would be around 15% more expensive than the Agilent 3000 equivalent and comparison with that model would be really embarrassing.

Agilent's 3000 series equivalent MSOX3024A is still cheaper than Tek's 2000 series MSO2024. It wouldn't be marketing bullshit if Tek didn't twist things up to make themselves look good.
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Re: New Agilent scopes
« Reply #414 on: July 18, 2011, 12:11:19 pm »
Agilent's 3000 series equivalent MSOX3024A is still cheaper than Tek's 2000 series MSO2024.

That Tek price at farnell is 1k more than elsewhere.
 

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Re: New Agilent scopes
« Reply #415 on: July 18, 2011, 09:46:43 pm »
No free upgrade for me :(

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Re: New Agilent scopes
« Reply #416 on: July 19, 2011, 03:33:51 am »
No free upgrade for me :(

Did you get the same e-mail as me at first? I dont understand why for some it works, for some people id does not. I registered my scope but it should not be a problem as reported from other people
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Re: New Agilent scopes
« Reply #417 on: July 19, 2011, 04:01:46 am »
Agilent Technologies Oscilloscopes facebook post:

Rumor has it there is a new Easter Egg in the 1.20 SW release for the 2000 X-Series and 3000 X-Series - see if you can find it!
 

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Re: New Agilent scopes
« Reply #418 on: July 19, 2011, 06:20:41 am »
Agilent Technologies Oscilloscopes facebook post:

Rumor has it there is a new Easter Egg in the 1.20 SW release for the 2000 X-Series and 3000 X-Series - see if you can find it!

Maybe its new iphone app located in "about oscilloscope" menu?
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Re: New Agilent scopes
« Reply #419 on: July 19, 2011, 07:09:58 am »
Agilent Technologies Oscilloscopes facebook post:

Rumor has it there is a new Easter Egg in the 1.20 SW release for the 2000 X-Series and 3000 X-Series - see if you can find it!

I poked some random buttons and couldn't find it.

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Re: New Agilent scopes
« Reply #420 on: July 19, 2011, 07:20:03 am »

I poked some random buttons and couldn't find it.

Dave.

Did you try to see the "old" easter egg trick, maybe something changed there ? I will poke mine as soon i come home  :)
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Re: New Agilent scopes
« Reply #421 on: July 19, 2011, 07:31:29 am »

I poked some random buttons and couldn't find it.

Dave.

Did you try to see the "old" easter egg trick, maybe something changed there ? I will poke mine as soon i come home  :)

Yep, it's the same.

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Re: New Agilent scopes
« Reply #422 on: July 19, 2011, 07:47:38 am »
No free upgrade for me :(

Phone Agilent tech support and explain that you want the free update. I did and they were very helpful and I got a license within a couple of days.
 

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Re: New Agilent scopes
« Reply #423 on: July 19, 2011, 08:24:48 am »
Where did people originally find the link to the offer? I only followed a link from this thread, but the form to be filled in implies that the offer was emailed out, and so I guess my email address didn't match any on their list.

It seems like some people just had this pop up while looking at Agilent's web site? In which case I don't know what email address they're looking for...
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Re: New Agilent scopes
« Reply #424 on: July 19, 2011, 04:27:06 pm »
My DSO-X3024A is officially dead  :(

I wanted to probe the ESR meter i got today and turned my scope on while i prepare a probe. In that moment i received a phone call and answered my mobile phone. About 5 minutest later i seen my scope is still booting with following sequence "all channels lights on, wavegen light on, run/stop, single button light on" and over and over. I left the unit alone for 30 minutes thinking it will boot, but no luck. Then i cycled power and i got only 2 vertical lines of garbage (one in bottom, one in top), the scope after some time came to Agilent picture of mountain and repeating the sequence described above. I cycled the power couple of times more but it just comes to that boot cycle and nothing happens  :(

Time to pack it up and ship it back, really disappointed
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