EEVblog #776 - World's Smallest Digital Dosimeter

[frank_gamefreak]

If you think I'm not the person for your device... help me to finde a divce which i can use without you.
Noone will earn money with the data on a travel blog but I can show that japan is safe to travel.
I love Japan.

Just measuring external count rates does not provide the complete picture, ingestion/inhalation of alpha emitters is possibly the biggest risk after an accident and very hard to measure with compact or cheap equipment.

I think some data is better than no data. I think for a guidance value the unit is good.

Try this https://www.sparkfun.com/news/1099

Your device looks like a better one.

[frank_gamefreak]

Besides, I told you before, any distribution fee it is deny! Only I have the right to do so. But now i no have time for it.

Sounds like microsoft for me... not like open hardware.
Sorry that is my opinion.

[osiixy]

Besides, I told you before, any distribution fee it is deny! Only I have the right to do so. But now i no have time for it.

Sounds like microsoft for me... not like open hardware.
Sorry that is my opinion.

Exactly, with just a little difference: other owners of successful proprietary stuff take the effort to reach  the goal by themselves,
when they have decided that they do not want to share their goods for real. That is viable way of thinking and who thinks it seriously
can do it seriously.

[osiixy]

This is open, but i deny distribution by fee.
It is my right, and I use it.
As I say to you yesterday... this project not for you.

FREEMIUM

[Someone]

If you think I'm not the person for your device... help me to finde a divce which i can use without you.
Noone will earn money with the data on a travel blog but I can show that japan is safe to travel.
I love Japan.

Just measuring external count rates does not provide the complete picture, ingestion/inhalation of alpha emitters is possibly the biggest risk after an accident and very hard to measure with compact or cheap equipment.

I think some data is better than no data. I think for a guidance value the unit is good.

Suggesting an area is "safe" from incomplete data would be very dangerous.

[osiixy]

FREEMIUM

You are wrong!

Source code and hardware is open!
I no longer receive a license fee and provided keygen and all sources to public!
I only get stats about count of assembled devices.

Any hobbyst can use my source, but he(or some else) can't get fee on any reason. It is open for my opinion!

Open it don't mean - any can get fee on my project.

That means yours flood is fail.


I like when people learns, do some device by hands, I respect that!

But when someone complains that he lacks experience to do make some OPEN hardware what he wants. I hate that!
If you can't do some, learn it! This is useful!

Sorry for my opinion!

It does not matter. You have the right for your opinion, and changing it as many times as you wish
(but you was the one also who complaining:

But now, all new features is must contain licensed(8$).

I got a lot of offers on the production from many different companies, but not one of them do not agree my fees 1% sale price.
Also i be forced to delete all sourcecode of firmware and PC Software in public repository. I afraid it be steal my project.

Now i provide only "compiled binary firmware".
Without license on it, work almost all features, except new.

Ah... 8$ - it is because... no one... NO ONE of all people who make my devices of many-many years, not donate just a cent for my projects.... no one ...
I think... it little fees for some features and closed source... do people little more generous in future.

)

I have got no intention to follow your project so deeply to learn
that you do not insist on money anymore (which is acceptable
but in this case your DIY open design hardware is a honeypot
for FREEMIUM pricing strategy, which is also OK just lets clarify definitions).

I also agree that doing hardware by yourself is a wonderful way to gain new
knowledge, I do the same, and there is nothing fancy or impossible with SMD
(but it is also a fact that not everybody has all the possibilities to get in to it,
you can be sure it does not matter how tough or repelling you are you cannot
stop others to crack your code get around your restrictive licensing.
IMHO there are already many guys who are selling your gadget but not
interested in to notify you. They help themselves and others, who are
imbecile and inferiors in your eyes, out).

Be tough like adamant you have the right!

[frank_gamefreak]

IMHO there are already many guys who are selling your gadget but not
interested in to notify you. They help themselves and others, who are
imbecile and inferiors in your eyes, out).

You're absolutely right. I was just kind enough to ask you.
I also could go to the nearest university and ask for help there. You would never know it. 
I would donate something for education in my town.

[osiixy]

osiixy - Yours misconception not interested for me.

No need crack my code it is open fully and included keygen.

PS.As i see you just dont understand me. Sorry i cant help you. I try to explain, but you don't understand again...

I rejoice with you over your supremacy!

[dmg]

I missed this, and yes, I'm building the new model too. Already ordered the tubes and shodan was kind enough to give me a couple PCB's, so I'm in business again. If all goes well and I don't break any tube (they're expensive) I'll build two.
Being alpha sensitive I'll hopefully be able to monitor radiation from granite.

EDIT: Maker culture is quite different in Russia than it is in the US or Europe, russians tend to pride themselfs a lot in creations and tend to be quite zealous about diffusion until the product is mature and well proven. I don't see the rules in this proyect that abussive, It's just open as long as you don't make any profit from it, pretty common in software (non-commecial usage licenses). This limits the diffusion and the liability of the creator. Imagine if this went mass-produced and sold by someone... being quite a delicate device that's not designed for mass-production and has fragile components inside and requires technical knowledge to operate, I imagine people would break things and then likely turn to shodan for support, so he'll end up supporting people and getting in trouble for free, while other gets the profit.

[frank_gamefreak]

Maker culture is quite different in Russia than it is in the US or Europe, russians tend to pride themselfs a lot

It simply proves all prejudices i have.

[osiixy]

Maker culture is quite different in Russia than it is in the US or Europe, russians tend to pride themselfs a lot

It simply proves all prejudices i have.

  No need to have that sort of prejudices 
I know so many type of people regardless to her or his nationality.
I even know quite nice Russians.

So, if you take my advice, draw a conclusion per se.
(but you do not need to take it, everybody has her or his own way,
my part is only to decide if I would like to be part of her or his life).

(that's f*cking nothing wisdom and absolutely futile,
do not take me seriously)

[teddhj]

I have build the 5.01 model .
First time for me to build with SMD ...let me tell you it's very small I did use USB microscope and magnifying glasses.
I will recommend to build the one with Mica window ....it's actually very sensitive and you can detect Alfa radiation.
I want to thank Shodan for all help and support without his help i will not have made it. He even sent me a Geiger tube for free to help me finish the project
Shodan did a excellent piece of engineering on this geiger counter.

Here is som Picture from the Build........