Author Topic: changing the rigol DS1052E to DS1102E using USB , the dummy guide (Read 1377770 times)

jason695 · « **Reply #850 on:** July 28, 2011, 08:10:47 pm »

hi ppl,

sorry i cant reply sooner.

firstly, i dont actually have a scope at all yet. i,ve just read around an have seen somone mention a version 3 firmware with hardware ver 58 i think.

Sean please dont damage your scope. i wouldnt like to think i've encouraged anyone to do wrong thing, Its very exiting i know but, you've only just bought it remember.

i looked at dave jones breakdown of the 1052e, where he takes back off. please knowone try this LOL, mr jones obviously got lots of experience. anyway, he seems to have nothing but, praise for its quality.

Sean, did you get it from batronix i was thinking of buying there also, it looks a fine item for price.

regds
jason

jason695 · « **Reply #851 on:** July 28, 2011, 08:27:17 pm »

hi again,

marmad,

just on thing i noticed. you said you might buy a newer scope than rigol 1052e.

which were you thinking of?

jason

sean87 · « **Reply #852 on:** July 28, 2011, 08:34:37 pm »

Hi,

I was looking for my memory stick and no success finding it yet! ahha myabe it is a sign that I shouldn't do the mod. butneverthless I am gonna try it. I almost modded everyhting I bought so this one should also be considered. I will report back later.

But if MARMAD can find a ncie deal for the OWON scope maybe I just send back my RIGOL and get that one too.

sean87 · « **Reply #853 on:** July 28, 2011, 08:40:06 pm »

Yeah I got mine from batronix. They are a pretty nice seller and offer 30 day return policy + free sheeping within EU

marmad · « **Reply #854 on:** July 28, 2011, 11:21:09 pm »

@jason695 and sean87

I was thinking of either the Hantek DSO5102B or the Owon SDS7102.

The Hantek is 100MHz, 1GSa/s, 1Mpts, 7" screen (800x480) - with a current cost of ~ € 390 (excl. VAT) from China.

Pros for the Hantek include: it can be hacked to 200MHz - good build quality - and good support on this blog (the scope has been basically torn apart by Tinhead - who figured out how to hack it to 200MHz - and has even reverse engineered it and released schematics for it).

Cons include: I can't seem to find it in Europe for a reasonably similar price - so I would have to buy it from China (which just means a big expense and long delays if you have problems under warranty) - plus Hantek is even less responsive to customers than Rigol.

The Owon is 100MHz, 1GSa/s, 10Mpts, 8" screen (800x600) - with a current cost of ~ € 360 (excl. VAT) from China.

Pros include: Brand new design: super thin - best specs (on paper) - 10Mpts! can do super-long data logging - huge TFT screen, as well as VGA output so that you can view the scope screen on a standard monitor (a great idea) - has a battery compartment for optional lithium battery (~ € 60) so it can be used as a portable (another great idea) - true USB 2.0 support (this is a big deal when you try to get real time data from the scope while running - the Rigol has only USB 1.1 and it is painfully slow).

Cons include: Brand new design: hardly anyone has one and it's almost impossible to find info about it - some of Owon's products in the past have had dubious build quality, although Saelig and other reputable companies continue to carry their products.

So it comes down to going for something which is known to be reliable and good quality - or opting to be an early adopter for an unknown design, build quality, and firmware - wrapped up in a bunch of good ideas and an innovative package for a low-cost scope.

I was leaning towards the Hantek, but I think I've found a great price here in Europe (with full 3 year warranty) for the Owon - so...

...tomorrow I will order one or the other.

sean87 · « **Reply #855 on:** July 29, 2011, 12:32:43 am »

Damn those specs justs tempts me to steal LeCroy WaveRunner 6050 from my company and replace it with my own RIGOL ...just hope no one will notice the difference!

Hope you will find a nice price and place to buy either of scopes you mentioned! good luck! (Although I guess you find that OWON from batronix)

sean87 · « **Reply #856 on:** July 29, 2011, 06:33:26 pm »

I couldn't stop myself and I finally did the hack. Luckly everything went smoothly and I guess I also have a 100MHz scope

I did the steps I mentioned in the pervious page and finally decided to go with 2.04 SP1 firmware. Then I did a calibration and now everything seems to work fine. I also tried the MARMAD software to check for flickering and there was no flicker at all.

xO · « **Reply #857 on:** August 04, 2011, 09:13:45 pm »

A number of tests posted earlier in this thread focused mostly on the rise time of upgraded Rigols. Here are some results for the probes that ship with the scope. Both scopes and probes listed are rated at 100 MHz.

RISE TIME (AT MAX SAMPLING RATE):
Rigol (with Rigol probes): 4.5 ns
Rigol (with Tektronix probes): 2.8 ns
Tektronix (with Tektronix probes): 2.9 ns
Tektronix (with Rigol probes): 3.5 ns

Rise time of upgraded Rigols seems to be on par with other 100 MHz DSOs. However, Rigol probes may not be. It's worth noting that the Tek probes (P6109B) have both low and hi frequency compensation adjustments, while the Rigol probes (RP2200) have only a low.

rtp_burnsville · « **Reply #858 on:** August 05, 2011, 09:20:47 pm »

Hi,

I just received my DS1052E last night...... I will likely attempt this after I spend some time seeing if the scope is working as it should.

My version is: 00.02.05 SP2
hardware: 58

Ok, back to reading the rest of this thread.

moon7 · « **Reply #859 on:** August 10, 2011, 10:40:05 pm »

Hello, can who check sequence of step:
I have DS1052E, SN - DS1ED132709252, SW – 00.02.05.02.00, HW – 58
Then
1 - Check USB Flash (save picture) – OK
2 - Write to flash FW from A Helene 2.05.02.00 to 2.02.02.00 DS1000E series firmware.zip whith MD5 f7c861576fe9efeaf08c3e449f3527f0 CRC 0c2ce1e8
3 - Insert flash and downgrade
4 - Reboot OSC.
5 - Install VISA, Ultrascope reboot CPU and connect OSC. To PC
6 - Run rigupgr.exe – check – update – reboot OSC.
7 - Write to flash FW 00.02.04.01.02 whith MD5 bcf73565352391935f3a9651d30776ee CRC 3b44dee5
8 - Reboot and calibrate OSC.

And how chance that OSC will be worked in this case. Can I connect OSC to PC – Ultrascope before downgrade? Is this not influence to downgrade?

moon7 · « **Reply #860 on:** August 11, 2011, 08:31:27 am »

update done

torch · « **Reply #861 on:** August 11, 2011, 12:50:59 pm »

Congratulations! Welcome to the club. I suggest you edit your first post and picture to obscure the serial number. There is no point in advertising that in case you need to set it back and return the unit for warranty repair.

moon7 · « **Reply #862 on:** August 11, 2011, 01:05:48 pm »

Thank! But I replace cooler, no noise no warranty

torch · « **Reply #863 on:** August 11, 2011, 01:25:09 pm »

Quote from: moon7 on August 11, 2011, 01:05:48 pm

no noise no warranty

Where's the GIF for <roflmao>

(Rolling On the Floor, Laughing My A$$ Off for those of you youngsters that are too young to remember the text-only internet)

odessa · « **Reply #864 on:** August 12, 2011, 02:37:06 pm »

Ace guide guys. Just succeeded in upgrading to 100Mhz

Thanks very much !!

Neuport · « **Reply #865 on:** September 07, 2011, 06:11:29 am »

Thanks! Received scope today, debated with myself about upgrade. Decided to give it a shot and 20 minutes later success. This was one of the easiest/best documented hacks I've seen. Well done. Of course I don't have the knowledge to test the performance to see if it matters. : ^ )

haltandcatchfire · « **Reply #866 on:** September 22, 2011, 04:49:43 am »

Hi all! Just reporting another successful hack. Ordered mine from DealExcel (not DealExtreme) for $350 USD and got it 4 days later shipped to Oregon, USA. It was packed well with no damage. It arrived with FW ver. 00.02.05.02.00, HW ver. 58.

The hack went quickly and smoothly, thanks to this incredibly clear guide! Now I think I'll have to make a pulse generator to really prove that I doubled my bandwidth so easily...I guess once in a while there is such thing as a free lunch

Rainmaker · « **Reply #867 on:** September 22, 2011, 05:21:44 pm »

Hi all! Why can not I download the file 2.05.02.01.header.zip from this site? I get a message "You are not allowed to access this section".

yanir · « **Reply #868 on:** September 26, 2011, 02:31:37 pm »

I don't even see the link to download the 2.05.02.01.header.zip or the rom. I am I missing something? Which post has this available for download?

Dexter · « **Reply #869 on:** September 30, 2011, 04:07:33 pm »

Same problem here, i always get "You are not allowed to access this section". What im doing wrong?

Best regards

mixsall · « **Reply #870 on:** September 30, 2011, 04:16:44 pm »

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I can't download.I come form china,my english is so bad.

pudrik · « **Reply #871 on:** September 30, 2011, 06:21:35 pm »

Have anyone managed to downgrade 2.06 yet?

Ive managed to patch a 2.02 firmware file to be detected as a 2.06 but since i dont have a raw dump of my flash yet i dont want to try and cause a corrupt firmware only minutes after unpacking :S

dumitru-a · « **Reply #872 on:** October 08, 2011, 12:53:56 pm »

Thanks a lot now because of this forum have made ds1052e 2.05 SP2, 2.04 SP1 in ds1102 congratulations again to all who made this possible!

gyurma · « **Reply #873 on:** October 08, 2011, 11:54:22 pm »

Thanks for the great tutorial and the help of the repliers!
Because I did not find any downgrade file for the 02.05.SP2 scopes, I just edited a file for the older fw versions and checked it to the md5 sums.
It worked. 'Till now i dont see any problem with the firmware either. 02.04.SP1 is OK.
I made a package for newcommers. Feel free to use it...
https://rapidshare.com/files/1870851383/rigol_upgrade_tools_for_DS1052E_02.05.SP2.zip
Read the instructions and also the Blog before using it!!!

Kozmyk · « **Reply #874 on:** October 09, 2011, 04:52:53 pm »

Quote from: gyurma on October 08, 2011, 11:54:22 pm

Thanks for the great tutorial and the help of the repliers!
Because I did not find any downgrade file for the 02.05.SP2 scopes, I just edited a file for the older fw versions and checked it to the md5 sums.
It worked. 'Till now I don't see any problem with the firmware either. 02.04.SP1 is OK.
I made a package for newcomers. Feel free to use it...
https://rapidshare.com/files/1870851383/rigol_upgrade_tools_for_DS1052E_02.05.SP2.zip
Read the instructions and also the Blog before using it!!!

Nice one gyurma I've just used your pack to upgrade mine. Success!!

I was finding the separation of the research from the results in earlier 02.05.SP2 posts a bit confusing.
Not that they weren't interesting but with a head full of flu I was thankful of an easier approach.

Thanks to you and all those researchers who have gone before my RIGOL is now sorted.


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