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Which big EE textbook has lot's derivations ?
« on: December 26, 2020, 01:19:32 am »
I watched Dave's video on the EE textbooks before, but what was the summation ? And which has the best derivation's, where they assume you don't know all the math either, so they might throw in math derivation's too (I know textbooks assume you're taking math classes too, but still ? And overal which 1 had the most worked examples ?

I always feel a lot more lost, when a teacher or a book just roles out some new technique without knowing where the math comes from or what it's called. I know 1st year calculus and linear algebra, complex plane stuff and some ODE's, so I suppose I'm not missing too much.

I'm going to buy 2 used 1st/2nd year EE textbooks, so I'm just looking for some thoughts before I order them, and any other really great EE books, that I could find used for a low price.

I remember 1 day I went on Amazon, and searched for the lowest price books, and there was all kinds of math/sci books for under $5. So I loaded up  the shopping cart, but as I feared, the shipping was $10/book, so never bothered.
 
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Re: Which big EE textbook has lot's derivations ?
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2020, 02:50:46 am »
I have no experience with their EE books, but the Shaum's outline series is known for containing a copious amount of worked problems. Then again, their target audience are mostly students who are cramming for an exam and want to memorize how to solve specific kinds of problems.

On the other hand, note that text books are generally meant to be used in conjunction with a lecturer, teaching assistants and recitation classes which are meant to fill in whatever gaps students have.

I'd suggest just posting your questions here or on the EE stackexchange forum. If you provide enough detail and context I'm sure you'll get responses.
 

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Re: Which big EE textbook has lot's derivations ?
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2020, 04:51:07 am »
I tend to favor the old classics by authors like Terman, who proved everything he stated.  He wrote many books but the most famous are probably Radio Engineering and The Radio Engineering Handbook.  You can't go wrong studying those timeless tomes.

True they go back over a half century, but the fundamentals don't change.
 
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Re: Which big EE textbook has lot's derivations ?
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2020, 06:00:27 am »
I always feel a lot more lost, when a teacher or a book just roles out some new technique without knowing where the math comes from or what it's called. I know 1st year calculus and linear algebra, complex plane stuff and some ODE's, so I suppose I'm not missing too much.

You most definitely need both differential and integral calculus.  As you progress, you will need Fourier Analysis (Fourier Series) and Laplace Transforms.  Much later on comes Maxwell's Equations and when you get there, you're on your own.  ODEs showed up in a class somewhere along the way but I forget which year of the program.  Slide rules weren't particularly useful...

That's in addition to some bit of linear algebra (matrix solution to simultaneous equations with complex numbers).

I don't have a recommendation on a textbook.  Many people recommend "The Art Of Electronics" and "Learning The Art Of Electronics" (lab book) but the intent of these volumes is to reduce the amount of math, not increase it.  I have Malvino but I haven't spent much time with it.

Every textbook I have seen (and it's not that many) does a decent job of introducing a concept along with the math behind it.  When I was in school, there was an entire semester spent on Fourier Analysis and another full semester on Laplace Transforms.  I'm trying to forget the semester on electrostatics (Maxwell's Equations).  This was back in the early '70s so we didn't have much in the way of computers to solve and plot the solutions.

I never learned much from textbooks.  I had to get some parts and breadboard things.  Then I could see it on a scope and it became much more real.  Lab courses are where the real learning happened, for me.

I would think that posting a question here would result in some pretty good answers.
 
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Re: Which big EE textbook has lot's derivations ?
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2020, 03:05:43 am »
Well I went ahead and ordered old editions of Floyd, Sedra and Smith, some other older circuit analysis textbook, and some mathematical physics for engineer's book, so hopefully that ones ok, and not too far advanced.

And I ordered a problems/solutions book companion for Sedra/Smith, I hope that ones great.

I want to learn some of the semi-conductor physics, to better work with IC's, but I'm sure there's a bunch of stuff in there that I just don't need to know, yet anyways.

Well it will be great to have all in the 1 place, and not have to ask google all the time
 

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Re: Which big EE textbook has lot's derivations ?
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Re: Which big EE textbook has lot's derivations ?
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2020, 01:20:06 am »
Look for old books from Terman, Everitt, Millman.
Engineering Circuit Analysis from Hayt & Kemmerly is still in print
For integral and differential calculus, I prefer "Calculus" from Tom Apostol
 


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