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Hello everyone. Sorry to bother you but don't know where I might find help with this issue. This sounds really weird but I put up a fence to keep the neighbors dogs from eating my chickens. He then came over an was yelling that fences are ugly. Now when I'm outside or in my shop or house he is shooting something at me that pops in my ears and then my ears rings for hours. Whatever it is is portable. All I hear on my end is a click and then sounds like something pops in my ears. Almost feels like something touching you. Then my ears ring for hours. What ever it is shoots long distance. At least 150 to 200' feet. I've looked up dog deterrent but I don't think that s what it is. Any Ideas?
 

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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2021, 03:43:17 pm »
Jeez... First thing is to try to record that event. Then someone might help more. What you describe is weird. There is of course such thing as sonic weapons, but they work small distance, cost huge money and almost for sure that your neighbour does not own one. Also it will not work through walls.

Maybe he is using some toy or a special purpose gun which shoots little exploding pellets? Thats all what comes to my mind. But then you would feel the direction, and also it will not make ears "ring for hours".

Record it and post.
 

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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2021, 03:54:24 pm »
Did you try to settle the dispute with your neighbour, before building the ugly fence? If that didn't work, you should have left the fence as it was and set up some kill traps designed to catch foxes and coyotes.

I have no idea what it could be, perhaps some sort of microwave or ultrasoinc weapon? If so, it's certainly illegal to use it in this manner, as you're not posing any threat to him.

Do ear protectors help? Other than that, there's not much you can do, other than contact the authorities, in the hope they can do something about it. I doubt you can legally do anything to retaliate.
 
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2021, 04:12:43 pm »
Other than that, there's not much you can do, other than contact the authorities, in the hope they can do something about it.

At least in my country it really helps if you collect some evidence yourself. In fact, without having any evidence some lazy officers might just come and leave without doing nothing and make you look like an idiot. Not always, but happens. So in such case I would record audio, take pictures, make videos, etc, then contact authorities.
 

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Re: The neighbor is shooting something at me that pops in my ears.
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2021, 04:18:05 pm »
Surely in America you can legally shoot him dead- problem solved?
At least tell him you're gonna print him a new one if he doesn't stop. :blah:
 
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Re: The neighbor is shooting something at me that pops in my ears.
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2021, 04:45:10 pm »
Have you seen him setting anything up? Police have sonic weapons they use against demonstrators. I've seen pictures of them, but thankfully have never had one used on me, as far as I know.

Whatever it is, since directed audio frequencies or RF may be involved, there must be a meter which could pick it up and document whatever it is. What I would do if you are 100% certain he is doing this is figure out some way to catch him in the act.

Ultrasonic sound and RF are two different things that would be measured by completely different kinds of equipment. I wouldn't invest a lot of money, I would only do that if a first attempt reveals that there is something being aimed at you.

If he is aiming something at you with the intent to do you harm, that must be a crime.

Ears ringing. This deserves serious looking into, because ears ring when blood brain barrier is disrupted, (at least thats my theory) and I suspect that means you're likely to experience permanent cumulative hearing loss (if it is audio frequencies being directed against you for extended periods of time) or possibly worse if its powerful RF. (I think that's very very unlikely.) Hardware that's intended for crowd control if misused could likely cause permanent hearing damage. That's no joke.

If you can prove it's there.

Either way its not good.  *Both audio and RF likely could cause a ringing in your ears* The ringing may be a secondary effect of ultrasonic sound, or some ototoxic, but non-auditory process, which is modulated by it but which also may be preventable by improving your glutathione status. (See below for more on that)


Did you try to settle the dispute with your neighbour, before building the ugly fence? If that didn't work, you should have left the fence as it was and set up some kill traps designed to catch foxes and coyotes.

I have no idea what it could be, perhaps some sort of microwave or ultrasonic weapon? If so, it's certainly illegal to use it in this manner, as you're not posing any threat to him.

Do ear protectors help? Other than that, there's not much you can do, other than contact the authorities, in the hope they can do something about it. I doubt you can legally do anything to retaliate.

My gut feeling is that the authorities will just write you off as a nut unless they have some reason to believe you are credible. At the end of the day, among other things, you'd get credibility by hiring an environmental lab. But that will be expensive unless you know what you're looking for.

Do you know any local police on a personal level? A good operative theory might be that your neighbor has somehow gotten a hold of one of these crowd control devices normally sold to cops, and is aiming it at you. You have every right to put a fence around your property, unless its prohibited in some way by your local laws. Some laws have height limits on fences.

Maybe he is concerned about his pets?

If I were you I would consider CCTV also, and a DVR.

To measure ultrasonic sound you likely need a computer with an audio input whose sound card can sample above the standard 44-48 KHz. (92 KHz is fairly common) and you need a transducer with range that high.

A piezo transducer may be able to help pick up and document ultrasound.

A program called baudline does a good job of displaying the audio frequencies visually.

For RF you likely need a field strength meter or spectrum analyzer with range in whatever putative frequency he is  using. Find out what frequencies these crowd control "nonlethal" devices use.

I think the audio frequency device is much more likely.

They are almost certainly illegal to use by non law enforcement people unless they are literally in the middle of nowhere.

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Which makes me want to ask the question, is there any way you can resolve this - even at this point?
Especially if you live in a rural area, its better to have friends for neighbors than enemies.

He sounds like a creepy person, but these days a lot of people are just stressed beyond belief by extraneous stuff.

The more slack we try to give one another (within limits) the better.

Keep also in mind that getting a credible official workup on the situation by a environmental lab that does forensic work could easily run you thousands of dollars.  So make sure you have evidence (for yourself) that points in that direction before you hire somebody. Collect your first line evidence perhaps on video with a time date stamping, and perhaps a friend there, preferably somebody who has some heightened credibility in your community, who is unconnected to the situation who can act as a witness.

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Here is something I am personally curious about, that may be useful to know.

Just for future reference, the evidence is pretty strong that NAC (see below) will help delay the hearing loss that comes with aging fairly well. The improvement in GSH (redox) status is good for all sorts of things. This might also prevent the ear ringing you describe which I know well. All sorts of things cause that ear ringing in me.  Ive found NAC helps reduce or eliminate it more often than not.

Often my ear ringing is caused by various household chemicals, VOCs, even some strong perfumes in lotions middle aged ladies seem to slather on. Big box stores often make me ill because of these low level smells. There is clearly a common mechanism involved which NAC helps fix.

What is NAC?
N-acetyl cysteine (NAC) - the most affordable amino acid precursor of glutathione in the body.

 Its possible, maybe even probable, that taking NAC when this is happening makes the ringing get better a few minutes later for a few hours? (but then it would get worse again when it wears off) You can spoon around a level teaspoon into some water and drink it, to get it into your bloodstream where it needs to be to prevent whatever damage may be occurring. As we get older, its a very good thing to take.

(see https://academic.oup.com/jn/article/134/3/489/4688681?login=true for a good overview of its function)

However if you have "silver" (mercury amalgam) fillings. (dental restorations) that's NOT a good idea because it will pull mercury out of them. If you have silver fillings, fill a bunch of 000 capsules with it and take that instead.

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Re: The neighbor is shooting something at me that pops in my ears.
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2021, 05:20:01 pm »
I can hardly imagine RF beam causing such strong audible disturbances without burning the skin at the same time. Any high power microwave source will first of all cause noticable skin heating and possibly damage to eye cornea. Must be some sonic weapon. Very strange story.

Edit: Just came to my mind. If this story is real it is possible that he is not shooting nothing, he is not using any "star wars" technology, he might be using some kind of poison to cause these effects to you. There are some well known ototoxins, which cause tinnitus, which includes symptoms some of which fit your description.
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Re: The neighbor is shooting something at me that pops in my ears.
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2021, 05:49:12 pm »
Hello everyone. Sorry to bother you but don't know where I might find help with this issue. This sounds really weird but I put up a fence to keep the neighbors dogs from eating my chickens. He then came over an was yelling that fences are ugly. Now when I'm outside or in my shop or house he is shooting something at me that pops in my ears and then my ears rings for hours. Whatever it is is portable. All I hear on my end is a click and then sounds like something pops in my ears. Almost feels like something touching you. Then my ears ring for hours. What ever it is shoots long distance. At least 150 to 200' feet. I've looked up dog deterrent but I don't think that s what it is. Any Ideas?
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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2021, 05:53:37 pm »
Unless I could prove otherwise, I would assume the popping noise is the sonic boom from a projectile passing by.  A gunshot.  The 'click' could be the projectile impacting a tree where it would be unnoticed.  Suppressors do a somewhat decent job of reducing the sound of the discharge.  A small cartridge, like a .22 Short, might be very quiet.  Apparently, an air rifle can cause a projectile to go supersonic and would be very quiet about doing it.

In other words, I would take this very seriously and definitely report it to the cops.  They're having a campaign right now to reduce gunfire.  I would tell them of my assumptions.  They may have a lot of interest in talking to your neighbor.  Just a 'knock and talk' may end the hostilities.

I don't have neighbors like that.  We do have privacy fences and it's pretty much expected.  We don't shoot at each other either!
 
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Re: The neighbor is shooting something at me that pops in my ears.
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2021, 05:59:57 pm »
This cannot be good for his dogs.  Maybe the next time you see him you should bring that up to him?

Edit: I just saw rstopher's post. I agree with him. If there is any chance he discharged a firearm at you, you should take this very seriously.


Hello everyone. Sorry to bother you but don't know where I might find help with this issue. This sounds really weird but I put up a fence to keep the neighbors dogs from eating my chickens. He then came over an was yelling that fences are ugly. Now when I'm outside or in my shop or house he is shooting something at me that pops in my ears and then my ears rings for hours. Whatever it is is portable. All I hear on my end is a click and then sounds like something pops in my ears. Almost feels like something touching you. Then my ears ring for hours. What ever it is shoots long distance. At least 150 to 200' feet. I've looked up dog deterrent but I don't think that s what it is. Any Ideas?

Have you seen this device, or any device? It likely cant be behind a fence, the slats of a fence would block most of it out. So its likely within your sight. Take a photo with the highest resolution you can.

Look for something like a sound cannon.
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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2021, 06:07:01 pm »
the sound of a supersonic bullet passing you sounds like a loud crack, like the sound of a bullwhip. Subsonic, you might hear, but more like a whizzing sound, and there quiet enough your likely going to hear the sound of them hitting something louder then the sound of them whizzing by.
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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2021, 06:11:29 pm »
How often does this happen, and where are you when it happens?  Have you considered that your neighbor may not be doing this, but instead you have tinnitus?  Tinnitus is more than just a constant high-pitched ringing in your ear -- it can also manifest as a sudden onset of loud ringing, and your ear feels/sounds as if it's plugged.  After a minute or so, the ringing diminishes and your hearing returns to (almost) normal but with the ringing persisting at a much lower level.  This can happen with no obvious triggering event.

This happens to me several times a month, and (with no medical expertise) I assume it's one more inner ear hair cell dying, and that's one particular frequency I will never hear again except as a constant low-level ringing.  The ringing can also be worsened by loud percussive noises (hammering, gunshots, etc.), stress, caffeine, aspirin, and no doubt many other factors.  I blame this on my years of playing in a rock band, but there are probably many other potential reasons.
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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2021, 06:14:37 pm »
its time to fight back! after collecting evidence and report to police, if no action as usual from those lazzy arse zombies. we have annoying neighboor whose dogs always barking passers by. recently i bought few "water bubble eating chicken" toy gun to make unwelcomed creatures stay away. if i got boring in the middle of night i'll shot the neighboor's area or walls, the sound of the toy gun alone is enough to make there dogs heywires, let their master wake up to know something is up ;D bad me. ps: yes i think ringing sound in the ears for hours is weird, i only experienced for couple of seconds, a minute at most.
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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2021, 06:46:28 pm »
if somebody aimed any kind of arm towards me or my loved ones, I wouldn't hesitate a second and call the cops; I'm certainly no fan of them either, but somewhere is a limit - and that's my personal health and being threatened in that manner by another person.

no idea if it's a good idea to place a deathly trap against the dog; here we would legally call that 'damage on property' even though the dog doesn't belong in your garden.
to shoot in any way back isn't clever as well; as far as I understand the U.S. of A. everybody can kill anybody else for no reason; so I guess 'keep calm' isn't such a bad advice.
 

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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2021, 06:54:23 pm »
I didn't see this in the previous posts, but have you had anyone else accompany you when this occurs?
 

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« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2021, 07:13:12 pm »
Could it be something as simple as a vortex canon?  They certainly feel like something has touched you, though I wouldn't have thought there would be enough energy to make your ears ring.
 

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« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2021, 07:30:08 pm »
You need to have documentation of this. Get an inexpensive DVR, slap a hard drive in there, get some decent cameras and mikes and record this. If you want more resolution use IP-based cameras.

Also, you should draw up a chronology. Illustrate it extensively with photos.

Did either of you arrive recently?  Your name implies you did. Do you know why the previous inhabitants left? Did they have similar problems?

If I were you, I would try to ignore things like acorns. It makes your story seem less credible. Stick to the things that obviously pose a threat, in your opinion, and why.

Keep in mind that it may be the kids, and try to ignore them. Kids will get bored if they are ignored. At the same time, set up a system that's recording motion when it occurs, all the time, including when you are away. Its easier and cheaper than you think.

But if they are shooting anything at you, you want to know about it, and engage with authorities accordingly if its anything life or health threatening.

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« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2021, 07:39:15 pm »
They are very particular about only targeting me. My wife has only heard it once. But it really seems to be a family affair for them. I guess I give them something to do. The guy has money but myself I could think of a lot of other stuff I would rather be doing. Most of the time I just ignore it. I mean for a while every time I walked out of the house I would hear tap tap coming from the woods. Just to let me know there watching me I guess. I have a small sawmill out back and the hole time I'm out there cutting wood acorns are hitting all around me but in the area there are only pine trees around me. Crazy huh

Maybe they object to the noise from your sawmill?

Not excusing, just wondering.
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« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2021, 07:50:19 pm »
How your neighbor gets away from hurting himself or his dog when he is doing this, what do you think ?
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Re: The neighbor is shooting something at me that pops in my ears.
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2021, 08:02:47 pm »
This is an electronics forum, I' not sure how you think we can help. Any particular reason you came here? It rather sounds like a matter for the local police.

If you want to record sounds most microphones are designed for higher frequencies and don't pick up noise very well or may be designed to supress it. When my neighbours arrived a lot of noise started so I tried various ways of recording it and the only thing that worked was a sound amplifier thing i found left in the house when I moved in. It uses a small speaker as a microphone and has a headphone socket, the idea is that you can use it to hear things a long way off. As it was a cheap bit of junk it has no filtering and the larger microphone area being a speaker is perfect for those lower frequency bangs where a mobile phone did nothing.

But if he is shooting something at you really it's a matter for the police.
 

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« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2021, 08:08:59 pm »
The ototoxin idea seems interesting, but I think he'd be a fool to actually launch a projectile filled with the stuff? Any remnants of the projectile is direct evidence, right? How far is his property line from your yard? Is it possible he's installed some sort of ototoxin "sprayer" near the property line? Notice Maybe the click is a valve opening up? You would think you'd hear the sound of gas being projected out of some nozzle though.

Does it only happen when you are in one area of the yard, or does it seems like it can be targeted?

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« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2021, 08:35:33 pm »
set up some cameras with infrared capabilities covering 360 degrees of your property, add some ir illuminators to extend the distance of the cameras view at night. record the activity, once you have what he is doing recorded, get the police involved once you have evidence.   this might land him in legal trouble, but still, ask the court for an injunction/restraining order, as then you will have the proof to be able to do that.  then when he violates that you can seek damages and likely he will go to jail if he doesn't already go to jail for what he is doing.  Also, seek the advice of a lawyer before doing anything. 
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Re: The neighbor is shooting something at me that pops in my ears.
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2021, 08:38:43 pm »
If I were you I'd try to do everything you possibly can to minimize the sound of sawing that escapes from your hopefully soundproofed sawmill building.
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« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2021, 10:46:40 pm »
These sorts of arguments never end.
I know someone whose neighbor objected to a fence upgrade of some sort. Ended up with lawyers at 50 paces over many years, over $100,000 spent on legal fees, won the case, then lost the case on appeal, and so then sued their original lawyer for a bad job. Over a decade of their life ruined.
If I was living next to such a whackjob, I'd move, it will never end.
That being said, the others that said this is an issue for the cops are right, gather evidence and contact them. But you have to be absolutely sure. Would be mightily embaressing if it was tinnitus or something as someone mentioned.
 


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