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Offline mentaldemiseTopic starter

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Help understanding Diagram
« on: March 07, 2015, 01:47:27 am »
Hi guys! Thanks for all the help already. Can someone point me in the right direction to figure out what's different between what I have attached and the diagram for CMOS Crystal Oscillator here: http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/oscillator/crystal.html

The chip is an LM74LS14N, Hex Schmitt Trigger
 

Offline codeboy2k

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Re: Help understanding Diagram
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2015, 02:34:11 am »
It's hard to tell exactly where everything goes, but if you're having trouble getting it to oscillate, then it might be a couple things

1) it needs to be said... double check all your connections carefully. I've been known to find something on the 3rd or 4th check.
2) check the crystal is really seated tightly, some of those little crystals have small leads that might not press all the way down into the breadboard.
3) switch to another chip, or another invertor in the same chip if you only have 1. Maybe the chip is damaged.
4) those extra long leads might have too much inductance, that will load the crystal too much and it won't oscillate.
5) you might try it without the 2 capacitors to ground. The breadboard has a lot of excess capacitance already, and putting the 2 caps on the crystal might cause it to not oscillate. So take them off and see what happens.
 

Offline Sirius631

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Re: Help understanding Diagram
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2015, 02:46:58 am »
If you are following the component values faithfully then it should be noted that the circuit you've built is using a true TTL gate, so the biasing  will be different. It should work if you were using a 40106 IC.

The following should give you an idea for TTL IC use: http://www.z80.info/uexosc.htm
 

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Re: Help understanding Diagram
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2015, 09:59:31 am »
You need PSU decoupling capacitors, properly located.
The jumper leads aren't wires: they are inductors with a value ~1nH per mm of length. The mutual inductance between wires is variable.
Breadboards have, reportedly, ~2pF capacitance between adjacent tracks.

You shold consider using "dead bug" construction techniques for high frequency (i.e. >audio) circuits. Use google images to see what that means.
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