Hello everyone.
I'm new to electronics and new at this forum. I wanted to share with you the information that you will read below, so in case anyone in the future decide to visit topic by trying to 'hunt down' an amtech distributor in europe, he can find this topic and 'this post' and read it.
So, lets start...
I was looking what flux should I buy. I did some research and I ended up at youtube watching Rossmann suggesting Amtech tacky flux NC-559-V2-TF.
I know that Amtech flux is being sold (fake one) from china, and since I don't want to use fake Amtech, I was looking where to buy original one. So I've checked his (Rossmann's) website and IMO his price of $21.99 for 30cc volume tube doesn't look 'too expensive' (maybe I'm wrong, I don't know) BUT, since I don't live in USA, shipping cost would 'kill the whole purpose' of getting it. I guess shipping from USA to europe is at least 20 bucks. (plus customs fee)... NO WAY!
Anyway, I checked Amtech website but I coudn't find tacky flux that Rossmann suggest (NC-559-V2-TF) listed on Amtech website (as Rossmann) already said, 'its not listed'.
http://www.inventecusa.com/tacky-flux.html^ the only one from '559' serie which is listed is NC-559-ASM
They do have listed solder paste NC-559-V2 but not tacky flux (NC-559-V2-TF). At the other hand, there is a listed solder paste NC-559-ASM, along with already mantioned NC-559-ASM-TF (tacky flux)
http://www.inventecusa.com/amtech-data-sheets.htmlSo, I decided to contact Amtech directly and ask them do they really have a tacky flux which they sell under name NC-559-V2-TF, and where to buy them in europe (what are european authorized distributors).
I got a respond that they do produce that tacky flux (NC-559-V2-TF). She also said: "We do sell the NC-559-V2 TF to the Rossmann Repair Group". Then I was told that all their fluxes are already listed on their website. I thought, maybe I was blind.. 'lets check again'. And, again, there was NO tacky flux which I was looking for (NC-559-V2-TF) listed on their website. I also received a list of two website to check it for Amtech flux products, since they are 'closer to me'.
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PolandTransfer Multisort Elektronik Sp.zo.o.
ul. Ustronna 41
93-350 Lodz
Poland
Ph: 48.42.645.7021
Fx: 48.42.640.0107
Web:
www.tme.pl=========================================
RussiaDCM-GROUP, LLC
Zubovsky Boulevard, 21-23,
room I, room 3,
119021 Moscow
Russia
Ph: +7 (495) 116-00-58
FX: +7 (495) 116-00-58
Web: esd-line.ru
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So... I decided to check russian site (esd-line.ru) and...I also sent them a message asking for the price and how much would it cost shippin to send it to my country. I got a reply from them, telling me that they only distribute in Russia and not EU.
I then checked tme.pl (tme.eu) and I got pizzed because on tme.eu, I coudn't find tacky flux that I'm looking for (NC-559-V2-TF) listed. tme.eu website list the flux like this:
NC-559-TF
^ so you're left to figureout for yoruself what is what.
maybe it's NC-559-V2-TF
or
maybe it's NC-559-ASM-TF
Here is the link of what search has found:
TME search results
So, when you click on 30cc (ANC559TF/30) and when the page opens, you see that price is $23.81 (or 20.32 €). BUT when you click on the image itself, you see it sais: NC-559-AS
I also checked other two products that search gave (for 10cc volume)
One is:
ANC559V2/10 (currently 0 quantity in stock)
and
ANC559TF
When you open a page for 'ANC559V2/10' (which has 0 in stock) you see there is no picture of the product.
When you open a page for 'ANC559TF' and when the page loads, it sais "AMTECH NC-559-AS". Also the address bar link has 'nc-559-
as' in the link, like:
https://www.tme.eu/en/details/anc559tf/fluxes/amtech/nc-559-as/
Well, F*CK this!
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So, since I was confused, I sent another email as my reply to that nice lady from Amtech. I explained that russian site only distribute in russia, and that tme.eu doesn't have a tacky flux under name "NC-559-V2-TF". I told her that they only listed 'NC-559-TF' so I don't know if it is NC-559-ASM-TF or NC-559-V2-TF (which I'm looking for), and to make things even worse, once I click on the image I see the name of that image is 'NC-559-AS'.
So, she replied (since I already asked her about that) that Amtech do deal with private persons (not only with firms), and its not issue for them to send the product. The only requiremant is that the minimum order quantity for 10cc volume is 20 pcs, and for 30cc is 10 pcs.
Anyway, regarding my confusion at tme.pl (tme.eu) website, she said this: (now pay attention)
Thank you for your response. First let me tell you that it is not a problem that you are a private person using our product and not associated with a company. Please note that if you choose to order our tacky flux products, you will need to purchase the minimum order shipment quantity. The minimum order shipment quantity for the NC-559-V2 10cc tacky flux syringes is 20. The minimum order shipment quantity for the NC-559-V2 30cc tacky flux syringes is 10. Formulations cannot be combined to meet the minimum order shipment quantity. You (the buyer) are responsible for all duties and taxes.
Second part of her reply was, what put some light on all this tacky flux naming mess:
The NC-559-V2 and NC-559-AS have the same formulation. The NC-559-ASM has a slightly different formulation.
TME purchases the NC-559-AS TF from us which is the same formulation as the NC-559-V2. Insat International purchases the NC-559-V2 TF from us.
So:
NC-559-V2-TF =
NC-559-AS-TF^ both not listed on Amtech website (
http://www.inventecusa.com/amtech-data-sheets.html) even though Amtech do have such product and do sell them. Why they don't list them on their site, I have no clue.
Here is the link to 30cc volume at tme.eu website:
https://www.tme.eu/en/details/anc559tf_30/fluxes/amtech/^image from tme page for 30cc tacky flux
And...
NC-559-ASM-TF 'has a slightly different formulation than NC-559-V2-TF (NC-559-AS-TF)
She also sent me few of their other european authorized distributors, so I'm sharing that here as well, so maybe we (the europeans) will finally have an easier way to buy it on our own continent
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NetherlandHDSA
Peeleik 15
5704AP Helmond
The Netherlands
Ph: 31.492430030
Fx: 31.492430032
eml: info [at] hdsa.nl
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GermanyJL Goslar
Im Schleeke 108
Goslar, D-38640
Germany
Ph: 49.53.21754221
Fx: 49.53.21754222
Web:
www.elsold.de=========================================
Great BritainInsat International
1A Gateway Mews, Ringway
Bounds Green
London, N112UT
www.insatinternational.com=========================================
^ for insatinternational.com, once you visit their site and click on the 'BGA Reworking tab' you get redirected to:
https://www.bga-reworking.co.uk/ (thats the site others also noted as place where to buy original Amtech flux)
I hope this will also help other people from Europe while searching for Amtech authorized distributors. Thanks to polite lady from Amtech, now we have more information.