Are there 6 pin USB C sockets with D- D+ lines instead of CC1 and CC2 ?

[EPAIII]

Is this what you are looking for?

https://www.amazon.com/Type-C-Breakout-Serial-Connector-Converter/dp/B09KC1SMGD/ref=asc_df_B09KC1SMGD/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=563688069599&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13978528968852296121&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9027887&hvtargid=pla-1666317339592&psc=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwj5mpBhDJARIsAOVjBdq6lk88Yk1UTyxABwcaKNthjM9S8eGiZYJIDDpAqm2FeCjjXanut-8aAklJEALw_wcB

It has both the CCs and the Ds.

[Berni]

That amazon one indeed looks like it brings out both sides on the D+ and D- line and then connects them together on the PCB.

Main point is that 6 pin USB-C sockets with working D+ D- lines do not exist because they would be way too difficult to manufacture. It is easier to make the connections on the PCB.

[LinuxHata]

I have 3 different USB C extenders. Tested all 3 of them, none of them requires any orientation change

Amazon link is good, but I need socket separately, to be able to incorporate it into my devices.

[ataradov]

They must be doing active detection and switching in the cable. There is no way to build a passive extender. But that active detection may not work with all hosts and devices.

It is up to you what cables you use, this does not change the fact that none of the USB-C extenders are properly certified, so use at your own risk.

[Berni]

You can make a USB-C male to USB-C female extender cable work both sides just fine if the duplicated D+ and D- pins are connected together on the female side.

Where you might run into problems is the extra high speed pairs on the outside, for those the devices have to detect the orientation and swap them around using a mux chip. So the extender cable would need to have such a mux inside it, pretty sure the chinese don't go to that sort of effort to make that forbidden out of spec cable work for USB3/HDMI..etc

Also the high current 5A cables are supposed to have a marker chip inside to identify it as a high current capable cable, there is no way to have such a marker in a extra extender cable. Worse even, plugging in a cable with a high current marker chip will 'upgrade' the extension cable to being high current regardless if it is a high current cable or not.

When the spec specifically forbids doing something, there is usually a good reason it does so.

[ataradov]

You would run into issues with the CC wire. So, even for USB2-only mode, you would have to rely on host not needing it. Some hosts don't care, others use them to supply power.

If you just do one, then some combinations of flips will result in a disconnected CC. If you also short it on the female side, emarked cables will not work when plugged into such extension cable.

[LinuxHata]

I don't understand, why question with extenders caught that much attention. I think, we're calling an "extender" different things?
Ones that I have are simply extenders - they have male sockets at one end and female sockets at the another end.
Number of wires in them correspond to number of contacts, so everything works fine, even 5A cables (tested right now). So I really don't understand, what all that fuss is about

[LinuxHata]

Well, I bought these connectors, even created gerber files (can share if anyone needs) and even put it onto actual PCB.

here are the observations:

1. Even if there are only 8 pins, their spacing is still very tight - feels like that this is 16 pin connectors, but 8 pins just not installed. So same issues with hand soldering, as with 16 pin ones.
2. CC1/CC2 lines work in any direction of Type C cable inserted.
3. D+/D- lines work only in one position of Type C cable.